Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF GenericSetup log levels

2005-12-15 Thread Chris Withers
yuppie wrote: 1.) It would be nice to have a policy for Zope. If the Zope core officially supports the BLATHER level (not just in the deprecated zLOG module) I'm fine with using it in GenericSetup as well. It doesn't, ZODB has a mapping for it but it's a stupid name left over from before the

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF GenericSetup log levels

2005-12-15 Thread Florent Guillaume
Chris Withers wrote: yuppie wrote: 1.) It would be nice to have a policy for Zope. If the Zope core officially supports the BLATHER level (not just in the deprecated zLOG module) I'm fine with using it in GenericSetup as well. It doesn't, ZODB has a mapping for it but it's a stupid name

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF GenericSetup log levels

2005-12-15 Thread yuppie
Hi Chris! Chris Withers wrote: yuppie wrote: 1.) It would be nice to have a policy for Zope. If the Zope core officially supports the BLATHER level (not just in the deprecated zLOG module) I'm fine with using it in GenericSetup as well. It doesn't, ZODB has a mapping for it but it's a

Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: CMF GenericSetup log levels

2005-12-15 Thread Chris Withers
Florent Guillaume wrote: Stupid is in the eye of the beholder. You don't like something that's useful for others so you want it to die. Congratulations for your openmindedness. And you apparently can't grasp the idea that there can be different levels of informativeness. Are you honestly

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF GenericSetup log levels

2005-12-15 Thread Chris Withers
yuppie wrote: By 'broken setups' I meant e.g. if you loose some catalog indexes on export/import because no handler exists for those index classes. This is a problem you should know about, but maybe you don't care or you fix that by hand. Ah, okay, I kinda agree here, and don't feel strongly

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF GenericSetup log levels

2005-12-15 Thread Chris Withers
Hi Tres, Tres Seaver wrote: No, it isn't, at least in Zope. BLATHER is intended to be summary information, useful for developers but not important enough to show by default. DEBUG is for more detailed information, and TRACE is for completely overwhelming detail. Show me the docs in zope

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF GenericSetup log levels

2005-12-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: Stupid is in the eye of the beholder. You don't like something that's useful for others so you want it to die. Congratulations for your openmindedness. And you apparently can't grasp the idea that

[Zope-CMF] Re: CMF GenericSetup log levels

2005-12-14 Thread yuppie
Hi Florent! Florent Guillaume wrote: I don't want to start another flamewar, but can I bump down the log levels of CMF's exportimports a bit ? INFO is too much. The currently used log levels are provisional, I agree that we should change at least most of them. DEBUG or BLATHER ? I can