Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Re: Re: RFC: PAS and the (non?) future of members

2006-02-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl


On 3 Feb 2006, at 01:52, Rob Miller wrote:


On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 00:38:07 +, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:


On 3 Feb 2006, at 00:31, Rob Miller wrote:
I mean sticking Plone-only stuff onto something that's a simple  
user

folder and should be completely agnostic of how it is used.


oh, i see.  did i imply that Plone-only behaviour should be  
dropped into

the CMF?  i'm not detecting some prejudice that might possibly be
causing certain readers to jump to conclusions about my proposal,  
am i?

;-)


Did I say CMF? No, I did not. I said PAS.


whatever.  i still don't think that justifies a back-handed insult  
when

there was nothing in my proposal that implied that i wanted to move
inappropriate behaviour anywhere into the stack.  or maybe i should  
just
be prepared for random snide comments to be the response to every  
future

proposal, since i happen to have come from the Plone community?


I don't see how a simple admonition to keep PAS itself usage-agnostic  
is supposed to be an insult. I only want to prevent all kinds of  
strange convenience APIs to appear on it which the current Plone  
versions expect on the user folder, things like  
getLocalRolesForDisplay or isLocalRoleAcquired.


jens

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Re: [Zope-CMF] Re: Re: Re: RFC: PAS and the (non?) future of members

2006-02-02 Thread robert rottermann

Rob Miller wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 00:38:07 +, Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
  

On 3 Feb 2006, at 00:31, Rob Miller wrote:


I mean sticking Plone-only stuff onto something that's a simple user
folder and should be completely agnostic of how it is used.


oh, i see.  did i imply that Plone-only behaviour should be dropped into
the CMF?  i'm not detecting some prejudice that might possibly be
causing certain readers to jump to conclusions about my proposal, am i? 
;-)
  

Did I say CMF? No, I did not. I said PAS.



whatever.  i still don't think that justifies a back-handed insult when
there was nothing in my proposal that implied that i wanted to move
  

rob,
we German native speakers are used to word our opinions much more 
directly that Americans.
I believe for a German speaker there is not a trace of insult in what 
jens expressed.


just trying to bridge a cultural gap
robert

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