Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-06 Thread Jamie O'Keefe
On 4/6/06, Charlie Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This still should not be causing this problem. Jamie, you should be talking
 to the DBA or looking at the DB side of things.

Well it is a volunteer operation, so we don't specifically have a dba,
but will talk with the person who set up the db.

 Is the DB running on the
 same machine as Zope or on the network?

Yes.

 What are connection times set to?

Do you mean the connection timeout time?

 It might simply be that MySQL is running out of connections although this
 usually means that the whole machine runs slow.

We upped the # of connections and I have seen 51 connections open at
one time.  Not sure the rate at which people are accessing the form
and submitting it, but I believe it may be 25-50 a day.

Jamie
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Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-06 Thread Charlie Clark

On 2006-04-06 at 16:34:01 [+0200], Jamie O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 On 4/6/06, Charlie Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This still should not be causing this problem. Jamie, you should be 
  talking
  to the DBA or looking at the DB side of things.
 
 Well it is a volunteer operation, so we don't specifically have a dba,
 but will talk with the person who set up the db.
 
  Is the DB running on the
  same machine as Zope or on the network?
 
 Yes.
 
  What are connection times set to?
 
 Do you mean the connection timeout time?

Yes. The default for these are very high which often causes problems for 
applications that don't implement connection pooling. However, as I 
previously said this is unlikely to be the source of the problem.

  It might simply be that MySQL is running out of connections although this
  usually means that the whole machine runs slow.
 
 We upped the # of connections and I have seen 51 connections open at
 one time.  Not sure the rate at which people are accessing the form
 and submitting it, but I believe it may be 25-50 a day.

At that rate there is no reason on the Zope side for the connection being 
dropped. There could be a problem with the underlying Python driver and thus 
the ZopeDA so you might want to install the latest version of both:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=22307

MySQL 3.2 is still supported.

But you should also run Zope in debug mode and see what gets written to the 
error log.

Charlie
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Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-06 Thread Jamie O'Keefe
Hi Dieter,

 We switched to Postgres, MySQL is used only for legacy components.

Isn't postgres linux only?  We use FreeBSD.

Jamie
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Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-06 Thread Jamie O'Keefe
Thanks for the suggestions, Charlie.

Will try as you suggested.

Jamie

On 4/6/06, Charlie Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2006-04-06 at 16:34:01 [+0200], Jamie O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  On 4/6/06, Charlie Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   This still should not be causing this problem. Jamie, you should be
   talking
   to the DBA or looking at the DB side of things.
 
  Well it is a volunteer operation, so we don't specifically have a dba,
  but will talk with the person who set up the db.
 
   Is the DB running on the
   same machine as Zope or on the network?
 
  Yes.
 
   What are connection times set to?
 
  Do you mean the connection timeout time?

 Yes. The default for these are very high which often causes problems for
 applications that don't implement connection pooling. However, as I
 previously said this is unlikely to be the source of the problem.

   It might simply be that MySQL is running out of connections although this
   usually means that the whole machine runs slow.
 
  We upped the # of connections and I have seen 51 connections open at
  one time.  Not sure the rate at which people are accessing the form
  and submitting it, but I believe it may be 25-50 a day.

 At that rate there is no reason on the Zope side for the connection being
 dropped. There could be a problem with the underlying Python driver and thus
 the ZopeDA so you might want to install the latest version of both:

 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=22307

 MySQL 3.2 is still supported.

 But you should also run Zope in debug mode and see what gets written to the
 error log.

 Charlie



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Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-06 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 6. April 2006 14:46:36 -0400 Jamie O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Hi Dieter,


We switched to Postgres, MySQL is used only for legacy components.




Huh...google will tell you that it runs even on Windows.

-aj


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Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-06 Thread Charlie Clark

On 2006-04-06 at 20:46:36 [+0200], Jamie O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Hi Dieter,
 
  We switched to Postgres, MySQL is used only for legacy components.
 
 Isn't postgres linux only?  We use FreeBSD.

PostgreSQL was developed at the University of California, Berkeley and runs 
on a huge range of problems. I prefer it over MySQL but I am not convinced 
that switching to PostgreSQL will solve your problems and, of course, will 
involve all the work of migration.

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Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-06 Thread Andreas Jung



--On 6. April 2006 21:51:05 +0200 Charlie Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On 2006-04-06 at 20:46:36 [+0200], Jamie O'Keefe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Hi Dieter,

 We switched to Postgres, MySQL is used only for legacy components.

Isn't postgres linux only?  We use FreeBSD.


PostgreSQL was developed at the University of California, Berkeley and
runs  on a huge range of problems.


problems? you mean systems :-)

-aj

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Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-05 Thread Chris Withers

Jamie O'Keefe wrote:

try:
  result = context.updatePerson(**query_args)
  return text
except Exception:


This is insane code. If you want to get mailed errors, look at the 
MailingLogger product.




The traceback error is:

Exception Type  Database Error
Exception Value updatePerson is not connected to a database


What version of Zope/MySQL/mysqldb/ZMySQLDA are you using?

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Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-05 Thread Jamie O'Keefe
Hi Chris

On 4/5/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jamie O'Keefe wrote:
  try:
result = context.updatePerson(**query_args)
return text
  except Exception:

 This is insane code. If you want to get mailed errors, look at the
 MailingLogger product.

Did.  What if you don't know what the errors could be?

  The traceback error is:
 
  Exception TypeDatabase Error
  Exception Value   updatePerson is not connected to a database

 What version of Zope/MySQL/mysqldb/ZMySQLDA are you using?

Zope is 2.6.4
MySql is 3.22.32
ZMySQLDA 2.0.8

i don't know the version of mysqldb.

Thanks.

Jamie
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Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-05 Thread Jamie O'Keefe
Hi Dieter,

On 4/5/06, Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jamie O'Keefe wrote at 2006-4-5 01:32 -0400:
 I have written a series of zope pages for a person to update their
 record in our mysql database.   They use a zpt-python-db sql-db
 driver-db flow and work pretty well.
 
 Unfortunately, if enough people use it, the number of open db
 connections grows until it hits a limit and the db stops accepting
 connections.  I have seen that there is a connection issue with zope
 and mysql, but have not been able to find a solution.  Is there one?

 We are using MySQL and Zope (via ZMySQLDB) and do not see this problem.
 Apparently, Zope handles connections in principle correctly...

What version of MySQL are you using?

One thing I just noticed is that if I connect in via the unix shell
client, quit and login again, the number of connections goes up.  Not
unusual.  In a slow period i will need to see if the number goes down
as well.

Jamie
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Re: [Zope-DB] mysql / zope db connection issue

2006-04-05 Thread Jamie O'Keefe
  What version of Zope/MySQL/mysqldb/ZMySQLDA are you using?

 Zope is 2.6.4
 MySql is 3.22.32
 ZMySQLDA 2.0.8

 i don't know the version of mysqldb.

I think this is 0.9.

Jamie
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