Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
kapil thangavelu wrote: twisted is GPL and zope is not gpl compatible and that does not appear to be changing despite some mention from zc about trying to achieve compatiblity. Twisted is LGPL, and it might be possible to license it under something that will work with ZPL. I don't think

RE: [Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Paul Zwarts
Hi Tim, Just to play devil's advocate; It seems this way, that methods pulling non-specifically from namespace could allow ways to modify the result if someone paid close attention to whats going on... i.e The total price of your shopping cart before its sent to the transaction broker. It

Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Tim McLaughlin
I agree. However, this is true of all DTML. I mean, its just as true in DTML methods that might REQUEST.set the args to the ZSQLMethod. ie. they could be tricked into REQUEST.set(ing) a false total etc. because they lookup all of their variables in the namespace. Cheers, Tim Paul Zwarts

[Zope-dev] RE: Component Architecture / A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Jean Jordaan
Hi all I don't know if you're all familiar with this already, but reading about Twisted didn't immediately bring to mind Medusa, but rather certain aspects (specifically, *aspects*) of TransWarp, and of the Component Architecture (interfaces). I'm including a bite from

Re: [Zope-dev] CVS: Zope-2_4-branch HelpSys b0rken.

2001-10-11 Thread Andreas Jung
- Original Message - From: Anthony Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 03:52 Subject: [Zope-dev] CVS: Zope-2_4-branch HelpSys b0rken. Someone's busted the help system recently. On a system running the current Zope-2_4-branch, I get: For

Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Toby Dickenson
Anyway, I propose that ZSQLMethods change and do variable lookups in the entire namespace, not just the REQUEST object. It seems to be a simple enough change (at least it looks it) and I can submit the patches, but the harder thing is to get people to agree that it is a change for the

Re: [Zope-dev] CVS: Zope-2_4-branch HelpSys b0rken.

2001-10-11 Thread Anthony Baxter
For the URL http://ekit-host.ekorp.com:8880/HelpSys/menu This URL is not reachable Yes, that's right. It's an internal system. I can't reproduce this problem with a fresh 2.4 checkout. Maybe they are running some 2.4 alpha oder beta version. This functionality in the released Zope

[Zope-dev] Import I/O error

2001-10-11 Thread a32955
I've exported a folder from a 2.3.0 Zope installation and am trying to import the reulting myfile.zexp into a 2.4.1 installation on a different machine. This causes an IOError as documented below. The problem seems to have something to do with changing the ownership. Choosing 'Take ownership

Re: [Zope-dev] RE: Component Architecture / A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:52 PM 10/11/01 +0200, Jean Jordaan wrote: Hi all I don't know if you're all familiar with this already, but reading about Twisted didn't immediately bring to mind Medusa, but rather certain aspects (specifically, *aspects*) of TransWarp, and of the Component Architecture (interfaces). I'm

RE: [Zope-dev] Component model, webservices and xmlrpc?

2001-10-11 Thread Brian Lloyd
I just had to let someone access some RDBS data easily. Its already used in zope so I figured the easiest way was xmlrpc to the SQLMethod. Of course it wasn't that simple since sqlmethods return results set classes which are not marshalable via xmlrpc. In the end I had to write a python

RE: [Zope-dev] ZSQL methods lookup vars in REQUEST only (why?)

2001-10-11 Thread Paul Zwarts
I figured that I could be relatively safe by using heavy sessioning. First I started with SQLSession, and now CST... Tips I do: 1) Create all formbased applications by folders. In otherwords /folder/Support is actually the folder and you always put the root logic into index_html 2) The

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Tim Hoffman
There is another approach however for getting Java and Zope together A few weeks back I was mucking around with the Python Java Extension (see Python 9 proceedings) and was able to interact with Java classes/instances directly from Zope by calling ExternalMethods. PJE basically allows the

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Phil Harris
Been there, done that. JPE (as it was originally known, Java Python Extensions), has a fatal flaw, at most one JVM can be attached to a Python script at any one time, this single instance attaches itself to a single thread, and is not available in any other thread. I've had this working with

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring
Phil Harris wrote: That said, I think JPE/PJE is the best way forward, but this problem needs to be solved (if it hasn't already). Latest CVS README says: Multithreading == Multithreading issues are taken care of. There is still a known issues concerning process termination

Re: [Zope-dev] GUF and SQL

2001-10-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Andre Schubert wrote: I'am using GUF with ZSqlMethods and found out, that every time a object is accessed the sql-method is called, [...] Is there a why to implement such a AUTHENTICATION-String cache in the GUF-Product, it brings a lot of performance, when using GUF with

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread kapil thangavelu
On Thursday 11 October 2001 03:30 am, Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote: kapil thangavelu wrote: twisted is GPL and zope is not gpl compatible and that does not appear to be changing despite some mention from zc about trying to achieve compatiblity. Twisted is LGPL, and it might be possible

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Don Hopkins
People waste much more time arguing about the GPL license, than it would take for them to completely rewrite the entire Python and Zope code base from scratch under the GPL. So if you can't live with a non-GPL license, then instead of arguing about it, get yourself to work rewriting a new system

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Michel Pelletier
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 03:28:32 -0700 kapil thangavelu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks for the license clarification. i didn't mean to suggest that its not a good idea to work on it. i was hoping that someone from zc would give some sort of status update to paul's statements from

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Kapil Thangavelu
take a chill pill. i'm *just* asking for a clarification about gpl-compatiblity. i'm not asking for zope to be released under the gpl. why, because there are alot of quality gpl programs that i would like to legally use and integrate with zope. specifically in this case aolserver. just as bad

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL2.0

2001-10-11 Thread Kapil Thangavelu
Only a little bit more arm twisting needs to be done in order for RMS to approve ZPL 2.0 as GPL compatable. We're very close, it's just sometimes, tricky to get a straight answer when speaking in legal terms. and there was much rejoicing:) seriously, i'll buy a round for those involved

[Zope-dev] Zope on Apache (Zapache? Zopache?)

2001-10-11 Thread Don Hopkins
Michel Pelletier proposes an interesting idea, of integrating Zope with Apache 2.0. That sounds like a really great idea with many upsides -- especially because you could write all kinds of interesting Apache extensions in Python. Has anyone written that idea up, or discussed it on other mailing

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL2.0

2001-10-11 Thread Michel Pelletier
On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Kapil Thangavelu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only a little bit more arm twisting needs to be done in order for RMS to approve ZPL 2.0 as GPL compatable. We're very close, it's just sometimes, tricky to get a straight answer when speaking in legal

Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted

2001-10-11 Thread Phil Harris
Hmhm, that is cool, I'll take another look then :) - Original Message - From: Itamar Shtull-Trauring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted Phil Harris wrote: That said,

[Zope-dev] HELP PLEASE

2001-10-11 Thread Andre Schubert
Hi all, i have serious problems with my zope. Last time he dies very often with error code 13,and since to today he slows down extremly. To view the Control_Panel/DebugForm it takes up to 1 minute and thats not acceptable. How can i track down these problems. I run Zope-2.2.4 on Immunix-RedHat

Re: [Zope-dev] HELP PLEASE

2001-10-11 Thread Robert Rottermann
I had this once (the slowing down) when an other process was eating up all memory and zope was constantly paged out. Robert - Original Message - From: Andre Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 6:49 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] HELP PLEASE Hi