Re: [Zope-dev] Forcing buildout to download sdist packages only

2013-05-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, I have a buildout where I am using the 'pyamp' module. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyamp zc.buildout on my Raspberry PI tries to download and install the binary

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCA for javascript

2013-05-22 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Christopher Lozinski lozin...@freerecruiting.com wrote: ZCA is very interesting stuff. I got a call today from a client who wants to do an extensible application in Javacript. I instantly thought, we could do ZCA in Javascript. And while not many people

Re: [Zope-dev] Success at porting ZTK to Python 3!

2013-04-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Albertas Agejevas a...@pov.lt wrote: Subject: Success at porting ZTK app to Python 3! Awesome! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK 2.0: Deprecate zope.sequencesort

2013-03-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Assuming an unsorted list of news stories, how would you use sorted to get them ordered by category (ascending) + publication date (descending)? This is the easiest, most obvious way: sorted(sorted(news_stories,

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK 2.0: Deprecate zope.sequencesort

2013-03-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
I'm sorry, it's early in the morning. It is of course: sorted(sorted(news_stories, key=lambda x: x.publication_date, reverse=True), key=lambda x: x.category) I forgot the key= bit. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK 2.0: Deprecate zope.sequencesort

2013-03-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Suresh V. suresh...@yahoo.com wrote: On Friday 01 March 2013 02:15 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: I'm sorry, it's early in the morning. It is of course: sorted(sorted(news_stories, key=lambda x: x.publication_date, reverse=True), key=lambda x

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK 2.0: Deprecate zope.sequencesort

2013-02-28 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On Feb 28, 2013, at 14:43 , Stephan Richter stephan.rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I would like to deprecate zope.sequencesort in ZTK 2.0, since it cannot properly ported to Python 3, since it depends heavily

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK 2.0: Deprecate zope.sequencesort

2013-02-28 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2013 10:41 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: Reading through the code, it seems to use a lot of code to provide quite basic sorting functionality. It feels like it's

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK 2.0 process

2013-02-27 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Stephan Richter stephan.rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, We are about 5-6 packages away from porting ZTK to Python 3 That's awesome! //Lennart ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Porting zope.tal to Python 3

2013-02-11 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: - Running 2to3 on your sources is a good way to identify places that need changing, but you'll have to revert most of the actual changes to keep it compatible with Python 2. I've find the easiest way to keep

Re: [Zope-dev] javascript in zope

2013-02-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:25 AM, murat bilal murat.bi...@gmail.com wrote: Can anybody help how to execute javascript code on DTML method like It's a bit unclear what you are trying to do. But you can not call DTML methods from Javascript, if that's what you want. //Lennart

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 3 support status page

2013-01-29 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:41:59PM +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: I wanted to have an up-to-date status page for the status of the Python 3 porting

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 3 support status page

2013-01-28 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: I wanted to have an up-to-date status page for the status of the Python 3 porting efforts of various zope-ish packages, so I made one: http://zope3.pov.lt/py3/ Awesome. But do we have to call it Zope3? :-) //Lennart

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZODB-Dev] Progress report: porting persistent, BTrees to Python3

2012-12-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 22:10 +0100, Godefroid Chapelle wrote: Le 15/12/12 01:52, Tres Seaver a écrit : I fixed the remainig issues in persistent and released 4.0.5 today: its tests properly exercise the C extensions

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZODB-Dev] [announce] NEO 1.0 - scalable and redundant storage for ZODB

2012-08-27 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Vincent Pelletier vinc...@nexedi.com wrote: Hi, We've just tagged the 1.0 NEO release. NEO aims at being a replacement for use-cases where ZEO is used, but with better scalability (by allowing data of a single database to be distributed over several

Re: [Zope-dev] We need to change how code ownership works.

2012-08-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: The Plone Foundation adopted a policy for this, see http://plone.org/foundation/materials/foundation-resolutions/patch-policy-052011 As we don't have any terms of service stating so for any of our issue trackers, we

Re: [Zope-dev] We need to change how code ownership works.

2012-08-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: Maintaining the chain of custody doesn't just consist of selecting pull requests or patches coming from somewhere. It also means verifying the contributor - be it the one who is creating the patch or pull request or the

Re: [Zope-dev] We need to change how code ownership works.

2012-08-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: Github: I don't know. I took the liberty of adding you to one of my repos as collaborator, but I didn't find any way to change your privileges so that you also could add collaborators, so someone else have to answer

Re: [Zope-dev] We need to change how code ownership works.

2012-08-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:28 AM, j...@nexedi.com wrote: This approach protects from: - legal risks posed by github Such as? - instabilities due to ever changing fashion in code hosting (sourceforce then google code then bitbucket then github then etc.) Sure. At the cost of a lot of extra

Re: [Zope-dev] We need to change how code ownership works.

2012-08-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leoroch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:28 AM, j...@nexedi.com wrote: This approach protects from: - legal risks posed by github

Re: [Zope-dev] We need to change how code ownership works.

2012-08-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: https://github.com/popular/starred i doubt that github i willing to get into the doghouse by doing really nasty things - and thus getting into risk of loosing projects. This is pure speculation, or are

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: On Aug 18, 2012, at 21:46 , Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but my question is why this changes with github. GitHub is a third party infrastructure run by other people. I cannot ascertain how well

[Zope-dev] We need to change how code ownership works.

2012-08-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: On Aug 19, 2012, at 10:17 , Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: And since it becomes ever easier to accept code from unknown sources (e.g. pull requests) legal code ownership becomes an issue again

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: Speaking for myself as ZF representative, it is my duty to make sure that chain of custody for the code is upheld and safeguarded. Convenience, which I feel is driving the move towards GitHub, is nice to have. But I

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: The point is that the identity of the committer on Github is not tied to the ZF's machinery for contributions, which means that it cannot be used to preserve the chain of custody under the contributor agreement. What

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: Legally this must be a fork then and I'm not sure it can be released as official Zope Foundation software anymore if you make releases from GitHub. Reason: the ZF can no longer ascertain that only official ZF

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Because the ability to check into svn.zope.org is based on a chain of custody managed by the ZF (web account, verified e-mail address, and SSH key). J. Random Hacker's account on Github has no such chain. Sure, but

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZODB-Dev] RFC: release persistent as a standalone package

2012-07-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Alan Runyan runy...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to release a '4.0.0' version of the package, and switch the ZODB trunk to pull it in as a dependency (deleting the currently included (older) copy of persistent). One possible issue is that I have not (yet) made

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.interface 4.0.0 considered annoying.

2012-05-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: I will release a 4.0.1 silencing the warnings unless somebody speaks up in their favor. We should make sure we have 2to3 fixers for everything change as well. I added some fixers, but it's so long ago I'm not sure all

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.i18n plural form support

2012-05-18 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Thomas Massmann thomas.massm...@inqbus.de wrote: I added the plural form support Whohoo! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding!

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 3.3 port of zope.configuration

2012-04-13 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 01:37, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: How deep is the six dependency?  For every package I've ported to date, it has ended up being more sensible to implement a local '_compat' module which had only the needed straddles (sometimes inspired by six, sometimes

Re: [Zope-dev] ZAM/ZMI Demo

2012-02-07 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 13:07, Sylvain Viollon sylv...@infrae.com wrote:  That would be great, for my part to be able to have the management tools (packing and such) in a separate package than the object browsing Excellent point. (and even the object actions, if you want to keep them, I don't

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2012-02-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 14:29, Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: On 2/1/12 8:21 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: Should you then decide that github is the place  to host it, well, then git is the software to use. Actually, they introduced improved Subversion client support late last year

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2012-02-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 15:40, Alexandre Garel alex.ga...@tarentis.com wrote: I'm a bit amazed by this argumentation. I think one important thing is that subversion is centralized while dvcs are not. And I think it's very unimportant. With dvcs everyone got full history of zope libs. I

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2012-02-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 13:03, Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: - what RCS software to use - where to host it It may be easier if we disentangled them. Traditionally it was easier, but now-a-days with github and bitbucket they are harder to disentangle. It is entangled, but it is

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope internals documentation

2011-12-31 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 20:09, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I have documented some of the darker corners of Zope's internals. I put it in the Plone developer documentation for lack of a better place, but it's not Plone-specific:

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 16:12, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: While I think there is definitely scope for simplifying the mix of competing skin concepts in the Zope/CMF/Plone space, we need to be careful not to bite off more than we can chew. We still have a lot of CMF skin scripts and

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:52, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Hi Lennart, I'm not sure if you're not mixing different issues here. Am 17.11.2011, 11:35 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: Absolutely. Getting rid of CMFSkins is a part of getting rid of CMF

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 roadmap

2011-11-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 20:57, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: FWIW, the port to Python3 of substantial existing web framework code is already a dubious proposition:  nearly everybody doing it these days is suffering pain (making their own code more complicated by straddling) in order

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:24, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: It was removed in http://zope3.pov.lt/trac/changeset/122056 because it wasn't actually being used anywhere. I'm not completely averse to adding it back, but it does create confusion with the various different alternatives in

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:53, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 16.11.2011, 12:49 Uhr, schrieb Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com: Right. Could we standardize on skins or browserlayers plz? Having both confuses the heck out of me. Definitely a topic that needs (re

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 publisher/traversal, sprint topic

2011-10-27 Thread Lennart Regebro
Do we really have to call it Zope 4? :-) On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 15:34, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leona...@nexedi.com wrote: Hi, Sorry for the cross-post, but I'd like to talk about a possible sprint topic for the next DZUG sprint[1], and invite myself to it :-) After the last two rather

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.schema and Python 3

2011-10-11 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:22, Brian Sutherland br...@vanguardistas.net wrote: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 01:14:26PM +0200, Brian Sutherland wrote: I've managed to port zope.schema to Python 3.2 on a branch (jinty-python3). One doubt which has just crept up on me is if these classes:    ASCII,

Re: [Zope-dev] web sites are keep crashing

2011-08-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:34, Babylakshmi Muthusamy babylakshmim...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to know whether we can change the proxy error to site error which wont affect the uptime of the site. By default the proxy you have in front (Apache?) should not show 502 in these cases. This may

Re: [Zope-dev] congrats on the new zope.org launch, but..

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 16:23, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: On 07/15/2011 03:13 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Martijn Faassenfaas...@startifact.com   wrote: I'd just call the category web framework; 2 out of 3 already say they are. Zope can

Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net

2011-06-29 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 00:17, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:  - breaking the historic URLs for no purpose is lame, and would   cause useless pain to people with older installations that rely   on them (Yes, Virginia, there were automated buildouts before   zc.buildout). True. Can

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 4, OK: 86, UNKNOWN: 1

2011-06-27 Thread Lennart Regebro
Will not having open bug reports as a fail again turn the buildbots red again, and hence return the overview to uselessness? //Lennart On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 07:00, Zope tests summarizer nore...@zope.org wrote: This is the summary for test reports received on the zope-tests list between

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - OK: 77

2011-06-22 Thread Lennart Regebro
Whohoo! Amesome work all bugfixers! On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 07:00, Zope tests summarizer nore...@zope.org wrote: This is the summary for test reports received on the zope-tests list between 2011-06-20 00:00:00 UTC and 2011-06-21 00:00:00 UTC: See the footnotes for test reports of unsuccessful

Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)

2011-05-13 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:12, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: One thing that I think is missing on the resource page is a Products overview - PyPI isn't really suitable for someone wanting to see whether Zope (2) is suitable for them and despite what we now think about

Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)

2011-05-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
Oh! Nice! IMO you can switch now. It's already a vast improvement, constructive feedback and changes might improve it more, but it doesn't need to be perfect before it's launched, just better. And it is. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 06:55, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)

2011-05-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
I think http://beta.zope.org/the-world-of-zope does a good job. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 07:28, Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: Hi, On 5/10/11 12:55 AM, Andreas Jung wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, I am happy to announce that we have made progress with

Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)

2011-05-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
. That is what people mean when they say Zope anyway. -- Lennart Regebro: http://regebro.wordpress.com/ Porting to Python 3: http://python3porting.com/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts

Re: [Zope-dev] Please, if you port to Python 3, port to 23

2011-05-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 17:36, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: If we decide to port zope.org-based projects to Python 3, please please please, port them to Python 23 rather than relying on 2to3 (or 3to2).  That is, update the code to work with both Python 2 and Python 3.  Relying on 2to3 (or

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-04-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 07:56, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 14:57 -0400, Lennart Regebro wrote: I'm still in Atlanta, and Arc Riley asked for a Zope person to possibly mentor some zope.* project for Python Software Foundation this year. They probably want to get

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-04-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:57, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 07:56, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: Did this particular effort get to the place where there are students and mentors lined up to do ZTK porting? No, it got to the pace where I'm supposed

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 01:06, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: On Saturday, March 19, 2011, Lennart Regebro wrote: Getting ZCA/ZTK to run on PyPy is probably easier, and actually more useful. Maybe someone would want to mentor that? While I would mentor someone wanting

[Zope-dev] Non-ZCML config for ZCA. (Was: Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?)

2011-03-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
I haven't read through the whole discussion in detail, so I'm sure I repeat some of what has been said already, but here is my point of view. 1. Yes, Grok is pretty implicit. If it's soo implecit is a matter of taste, but much of the implicitness makes sense. You typically do have a model and a

Re: [Zope-dev] Non-ZCML config for ZCA. (Was: Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?)

2011-03-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
, the implementations in one file, and the registrations separately (say, configure.py), thereby getting the same separation as you had with interfaces.py, components.py and configure.zcml. Your package just needs to *not* import the configure.py file. On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:47, Lennart Regebro rege

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 13:28, Stephan Richter srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu wrote: On Monday, March 21, 2011, Lennart Regebro wrote: So I'll sign up as a Zope team member. Cool. But it turns out we need three to make a team (see https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey

Re: [Zope-dev] Non-ZCML config for ZCA. (Was: Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?)

2011-03-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 14:17, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Anyway, Grok's configuration is dependent on the rules you give it, so it's possible to have a completely explicit set of directives with no implicit fallback to default values whatsoever. Martian supports that

Re: [Zope-dev] Non-ZCML config for ZCA. (Was: Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?)

2011-03-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 15:28, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: This might be OK for @implements and maybe @adapts, which describe behavior, but start feeling wonky to me for something like: @utility. Well, the wonkyness comes from @utility *not* being inherited, while @implements would be. That

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 22:08, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still in Atlanta, and Arc Riley asked for a Zope person to possibly mentor some zope.* project for Python Software Foundation this year. They probably

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 13:07, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 22:08, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still in Atlanta, and Arc Riley asked for a Zope person to possibly mentor some

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
Getting ZCA/ZTK to run on PyPy is probably easier, and actually more useful. Maybe someone would want to mentor that? On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 22:08, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still in Atlanta, and Arc Riley

[Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
I'm still in Atlanta, and Arc Riley asked for a Zope person to possibly mentor some zope.* project for Python Software Foundation this year. They probably want to get more of the Zope Toolkit ported to Python 3. I forwarded the roadmap to him, so anyone who wants to mentor, that would be great.

[Zope-dev] PyCon Zope sprint Python 3 progress report / roadmap.

2011-03-15 Thread Lennart Regebro
We are here in Atlanta porting Zope stuff, and I've updated the roadmap, so I thought I'd post it on zope-dev and python-porting, so people know things are happening, and that they should have been here, because PyCon was awesome! So yesterday we've finished the porting of some low-hanging

Re: [Zope-dev] string exceptions

2011-02-27 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:05, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: I take that back, that documentation is incorrect, they have indeed stopped working. You are allowed to catch them, but not raise them. This is so you can have code that runs on old Pythons with old libraries still. But in

Re: [Zope-dev] Sprints at PyCon

2011-02-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 16:46, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: I was planning to work on getting buildout woring with Python 3 (if it isn't done by then). Awesome! I'll make sure to get up to speed on what the issues was with my last attempt, because I forgot as usual. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at

Re: [Zope-dev] PyPy 1.4.1 and the ZTK

2010-12-26 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 15:24, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Hi there, I thought it'd be interesting to note that PyPy 1.4.1 (with JIT) now works out of the box with buildout Awesome! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 porting sprint?

2010-12-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 07:26, Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net wrote: Who would be interested in a sprint, when, where and how? I'd be interested in remote sprinting.  I'm available now, FWIW. OK, so it's me and you then. :-) Let's talk in January about doing something and staying online at

Re: [Zope-dev] I want some Python 3 C coding style guidance.

2010-11-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:37, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 11/25/10 11:31 , Lennart Regebro wrote: Which style do you prefer? I'll make zope.hookable, zope.i18nmessage and zope.proxy use the same style if we can agree on one. The second. #ifdefs in code make code hard

[Zope-dev] I want some Python 3 C coding style guidance.

2010-11-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
I've been porting some zope.* modules that have C-extensions to Python 3, and with the C-preprocessor you have so many possibilities that I get all confused. So I'd like some opinions. Or onions. Or something. The big issue is the module definition, which is quite different in Python 2 and

[Zope-dev] Zope 3 porting sprint?

2010-11-25 Thread Lennart Regebro
. I'd havetime for that in January, I think. Of course, if people want to come to Krakow for a sprint I would be happy host it. But you'd have to pay for plane tickets yourself. And hotels, unless you want to sleep on my floor. :-) Who would be interested in a sprint, when, where and how? -- Lennart

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope vs. Python 3 porting roadmap

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Regebro
Oh, and zc.buildout also exposes bugs in Distribute under Python 3, so a new version of Distribute is needed before this can be finished. But that could probably happen quite fast after I get most of the zc.buildout tests running. ___ Zope-Dev maillist

[Zope-dev] zope.proxy explanation?

2010-11-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
I'm trying to port zope.proxy to Python 3, and most tests seem to work, but investigating those two who doesn't is confusing. The first one is the test to prevent pickling. This works under Python 2, but as I understand it it should work by implementing a __reduce__ function that throws an

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.i18nmessageid/branches/regebro-python3/src/zope/i18nmessageid/messages.txt Paper over different exception type raised under Python3.

2010-11-19 Thread Lennart Regebro
Hmm, the tests failed for me without that change under Python 3.1, but pass with it: Weird. How are you running the tests under Python3, BTW? python3 setup.py test ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Survey: most obscure errors

2010-11-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:00, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: What are the most obscure error conditions you've encountered while developing Zopeish[1] applications?  [1] ZTK, Grok, Bluebream, the old Zope 3.x KGSes all qualify. I'm talking about situations where the error

Re: [Zope-dev] Class advisors in Python 3

2010-07-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
to Python 3 yet, but the same thing should happen there, yes. -- Lennart Regebro, Colliberty: http://www.colliberty.com/ Python, Zope, Plone blog: http://regebro.wordpress.com/ Telephone: +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing / zope.testrunner path forward:

2010-07-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 13:26, Jonathan Lange j...@mumak.net wrote: Just to be clear, is zope.testing 4.0.0 intended to work with Python 2? Yes. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

[Zope-dev] I have loads of tests failing on zc.buildout on trunk

2010-07-22 Thread Lennart Regebro
Am I doing something wrong? I have a dedicated python 2.6, and run python2.6 dev.py and then bin/test. -- Lennart Regebro, Colliberty: http://www.colliberty.com/ Python, Zope, Plone blog: http://regebro.wordpress.com/ Telephone: +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] I have loads of tests failing on zc.buildout on trunk

2010-07-22 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 08:38, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: Am I doing something wrong? I have a dedicated python 2.6, and run python2.6 dev.py and then bin/test. I looked through the tests again, and some of the tests are clearly an effect of using doctest instead

Re: [Zope-dev] I have loads of tests failing on zc.buildout on trunk

2010-07-22 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 08:40, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 08:38, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: Am I doing something wrong? I have a dedicated python 2.6, and run python2.6 dev.py and then bin/test. I looked through the tests again, and some

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 38 OK, 17 Failed, 1 Unknown

2010-07-22 Thread Lennart Regebro
Well, that was one failure less than yesterday, so at least the new zope.testing release didn't make anything explode. I guess that's because most have version pinning, but there you go. :-) On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:58, Zope Tests Summarizer zope-te...@epy.co.at wrote: Summary of messages to

[Zope-dev] zope.hookable ported to Python 3

2010-07-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
a look and complain if you you like. :-) http://svn.zope.org/zope.hookable/branches/regebro-python3/ -- Lennart Regebro, Colliberty: http://www.colliberty.com/ Python, Zope, Plone blog: http://regebro.wordpress.com/ Telephone: +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing / zope.testrunner path forward:

2010-07-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 06:28, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: I myself prefer having more releases. I like Marius' idea: 3.10 would be good for removing the test runner then 4.0 can be Py3 compatibility. OK, I'll merge and release 3.10 today or tomorrow or so. -- Lennart Regebro

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing / zope.testrunner path forward:

2010-07-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
that zope.testing depends on zope.testrunner to be pracically useful, I think we'll skip it. -- Lennart Regebro, Colliberty: http://www.colliberty.com/ Python, Zope, Plone blog: http://regebro.wordpress.com/ Telephone: +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing / zope.testrunner path forward:

2010-07-21 Thread Lennart Regebro
please mail me if something breaks so I see it. 4.0.0 is ready, but I'll wait with releasing it for a week at least, I only need it to work on my porting of zc.buildout, and I don't need it uploaded to PyPI. :-) -- Lennart Regebro, Colliberty: http://www.colliberty.com/ Python, Zope, Plone blog: http

[Zope-dev] zope.testing / zope.testrunner path forward:

2010-07-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
. It should be zope.testing 4.0.0, right? -- Lennart Regebro: http://regebro.wordpress.com/ Python 3 Porting: http://python3porting.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

Re: [Zope-dev] ./bin/test failing with trunk zope.testing

2010-07-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 16:58, Jonathan Lange j...@mumak.net wrote: Actually, it turned out to be something of a pebkac. Happy to hear it, zope.testrunner and zope.testing.testrunner *should* be compatible, and if they aren't that is probably a bug. -- Lennart Regebro: http

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing / zope.testrunner path forward:

2010-07-20 Thread Lennart Regebro
of if we want both changes at once or not. :-) -- Lennart Regebro, Colliberty: http://www.colliberty.com/ Python, Zope, Plone blog: http://regebro.wordpress.com/ Telephone: +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
it would be cool if 1.0 does include the latest and greatest, but my changes are mostly aimed at Python 3 compatibility, and ZTK 1.0 will not have that as a whole anyway. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
. The tests run under Python 2.4 again. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
it, that's for sure. And as mentioned, except for the Bicycle toolkit or whatever the name is, 2.4 is not needed any more. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
was only recently concluded. To expect zope process documentation to update quickly is unrealistic. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
, I understand you are just shaking off all the shit that you had to take, but I'm not sure everyone gets the joke. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
can have a fork, as long as he doesn't try to poke anyones eye out with it. If it's a stupid waste of time, it's Hannos stupid waste of time. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
completely and hence dn't understand what or how things broke). But I think the fork in itself is a red herring. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
base that people can build on. But they could simply pin to one release and stick with it for a while, right? Right. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
a monkey-patch product just for 2.4, and the monkeypatches was voted off from zope.testing because they are evil in the first place. The tests might pass __file__ in explicitly, maybe? Otherwise dropping 2.4 is probably the only reasonable option. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http

Re: [Zope-dev] summary of suggestions

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
of ZTK having to use trunk, which means we can't just change versions all the time. -- Lennart Regebro: Python, Zope, Plone, Grok http://regebro.wordpress.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman

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