[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-30 Thread Christian Theune
Hi everyone, today's the fifth weekly meeting and I hope to see you around 3pm UTC at #zope at freenode. (Still a few hours to go.) Please plan 45 minutes for today instead of the usual 30 minutes: the designated time frame of the meeting as an experiment is ending and thus I'd like to spend

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 4 OK, 2 Failed

2010-03-30 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Mon Mar 29 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Tue Mar 30 12:00:00 2010 UTC. There were 6 messages: 6 from Zope Tests. Test failures - Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Mon Mar 29 21:36:32 EDT

Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-30 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On 03/30/2010 11:09 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi everyone, today's the fifth weekly meeting and I hope to see you around 3pm UTC at #zope at freenode. (Still a few hours to go.) and ... I screwed up the DST switch and started the meeting an hour early. I didn't notice, though,

[Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. For Zope 2.13 (trunk) I'd like to try to reduce the C dependencies of the Zope2 distribution itself. Ideally it would not have any C dependencies in its own distribution, but that's a bit too much for now. As a next step I'd like to split out the initgroups, Missing, MultiMapping, Record and

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. For Zope 2.13 (trunk) I'd like to try to reduce the C dependencies of the Zope2 distribution itself. Ideally it would not have any C dependencies in its own distribution Why? Martin (who spent all day trying to get Zope 2 to build on SuSE Linux before realising

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: For Zope 2.13 (trunk) I'd like to try to reduce the C dependencies of the Zope2 distribution itself. Ideally it would not have any C dependencies in its own distribution Why? It

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: For Zope 2.13 (trunk) I'd like to try to reduce the C dependencies of the Zope2 distribution itself. Ideally it would not have any C dependencies in its own

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
* 2010-03-30 17:44, Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm generally for it, we just need to (a) make sure we're not going to negatively impact performance if we can help it and (b) explain our rationale. Not sure I understood correctly what Hanno proposed, but we are not going to negatively impact

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/30/10 16:56 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. For Zope 2.13 (trunk) I'd like to try to reduce the C dependencies of the Zope2 distribution itself. Ideally it would not have any C dependencies in its own distribution, but that's a bit too much for now. As a next step I'd like to split out

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: It simplifies the release process for Zope2. In most cases upgrading to a new version of Zope2 won't involve any changes to C code. If the C code is split out, we won't have to release any

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 3/30/10 16:56 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: If this is done the remaining C libraries are in AccessControl, DocumentTemplate and ZCTextIndex. AccessControl has a reference implementation in Python and could the C

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/30/10 18:05 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: The C code which we might want to turn into optional optimizations at a later point, would follow the same standard we already use in the Zope Toolkit. So there won't be any new kind of risk. For example zope.i18nmessageid and zope.interface use this

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2: Reducing C dependencies

2010-03-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: If I remember corrcetly Malthe's pure-python variant of zope.i18nmessage got vetoed late 2008, so it is still requires C compilation. Look at the source [1] or the release notes for the 3.5.0 release from last June.