Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: merge zc.configuration's exclude directive into zope.configuration.

2009-03-02 Thread Ethan Jucovy
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Also, is there any caching for already processed packages in the include finder code? If no, I'd probably like to contribute some, if I'll use z3c.autoinclude. :) Ah, you're thinking in the same direction. I don't

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: merge zc.configuration's exclude directive into zope.configuration.

2009-02-28 Thread Ethan Jucovy
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Hey, On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Ethan Jucovy ethan.juc...@gmail.com wrote: That's true on paper, but in practice z3c.autoinclude's *indirection* does make a difference when you're just trying to debug what's

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: merge zc.configuration's exclude directive into zope.configuration.

2009-02-27 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Ethan Jucovy ethan.juc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: [snip] That's asking for a feature that other packages that *don't* use autoinclude don't support! You lose control as soon as you

[Zope-dev] Proposal: merge zc.configuration's exclude directive into zope.configuration.

2009-02-26 Thread Dan Korostelev
Hi there. The exclude directive provided by zc.configuration package is easy to use and straightforward. I think it's used almost in every zope-based application setup. Its implementation is very small and fits great in zope.configuration's standard directives. So I'd like to propose to move it

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: merge zc.configuration's exclude directive into zope.configuration.

2009-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Dan Korostelev wrote: The exclude directive provided by zc.configuration package is easy to use and straightforward. I think it's used almost in every zope-based application setup. I highly doubt so; I don't find myself using it a lot myself, for instance. :) Its implementation is

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: merge zc.configuration's exclude directive into zope.configuration.

2009-02-26 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/2/26 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com: Dan Korostelev wrote: The exclude directive provided by zc.configuration package is easy to use and straightforward. I think it's used almost in every zope-based application setup. I highly doubt so; I don't find myself using it a lot myself,

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: merge zc.configuration's exclude directive into zope.configuration.

2009-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] (note though that including an extra meta.zcml can be avoided if you make use of the z3c.autoinclude library) Yep, I know about z3c.autoinclude, but I don't like it, as it makes things more implicit and it

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: merge zc.configuration's exclude directive into zope.configuration.

2009-02-26 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 26, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Dan Korostelev wrote: Hi there. The exclude directive provided by zc.configuration package is easy to use and straightforward. I think it's used almost in every zope-based application setup. Its implementation is very small and fits great in

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: merge zc.configuration's exclude directive into zope.configuration.

2009-02-26 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/2/26 Jim Fulton j...@zope.com: and make the exclude directive from zc.configuration point to the zope.configuration's implementation making the original place deprecated (however I guess the whole zc.configuration package should't be deprecated as it's intended to be a common place for

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: merge zc.configuration's exclude directive into zope.configuration.

2009-02-26 Thread Ethan Jucovy
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Hey, On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I know about z3c.autoinclude, but I don't like it, as it makes things more implicit and it also Yes, automation makes things more