Re: [Zope-dev] What use cases are driving make install from a checkout?

2005-12-22 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: I'd like to step back and see if we can agree on what is driving the desire for make install. I'll note that one reason is that it worked this way before, but I don't think that that is a good enough reason to delay the release. I'll note one use case: - A Zope deployer

Re: [Zope-dev] What use cases are driving make install from a checkout?

2005-12-22 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote: We should probably be holding this discussion later, not right now, though. Please. :) Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation

[Zope-dev] What use cases are driving make install from a checkout?

2005-12-21 Thread Jim Fulton
I'd like to step back and see if we can agree on what is driving the desire for make install. I'll note that one reason is that it worked this way before, but I don't think that that is a good enough reason to delay the release. I'll note one use case: - A Zope deployer wants to deploy an

Re: [Zope-dev] What use cases are driving make install from a checkout?

2005-12-21 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida
Just as a data point. A lot of autoconf projects (the ones that made ./configure; make; make install famous) don't just run like that from a checkout, but they are never more than 2 steps away from that. The process for a checkout is usually more like ./autoconf; ./automake; ./configure; make;

Re: [Zope-dev] What use cases are driving make install from a checkout?

2005-12-21 Thread Fred Drake
On 12/21/05, Leonardo Rochael Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is: I don't think there's anything wrong in the install procedure being different between the checkout and the tarball, but it should never take more than a couple of fixed (and documented) steps to convert a checkout to a