[Zope-dev] Re: Comments on ZPatterns

2000-07-04 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 03:10 PM 6/28/00 +0100, Chris Withers wrote: 1. Too much jargon... by far... Lots of complicated words that are meanlingless to the layman and don't help to convey the concepts. Yep, like "Acquisition" and "object publishing". :) Seriously, that is very much the level we're talking about

Re: [Zope-dev] More comments on ZPatterns

2000-07-04 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 10:06 AM 7/3/00 -0500, Steve Spicklemire wrote: Seriously, I'm trying to get it all figured out, and I thought maybe if I attempted to do something 'real' with it I would at least learn what I *don't* understand. Well.. I've learned a *lot*! (about what I don't understand.. ) ;-) The source

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPatterns: DropZone example

2000-07-04 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 05:26 PM 6/28/00 +0100, Steve Alexander wrote: The suggested specialists in the Accounting framework are: Invoices Orders Customers Products What I'm finding is that these are just the White-box specialists. A clean design would seem to want all the specialists above, plus at least

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPatterns Specialist Question

2000-07-04 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 11:54 AM 7/3/00 +0100, Chris Withers wrote: Just a quickie: If, as the the ZPatterns Wiki states, 'Specialists are not classes', then why is there a 'Specialist' python class in the ZPatterns distribution? Specialists are instances of the class "Specialist". They are not themselves

Re: [Zope-dev] bug in zpatterns-0.4 ?

2000-07-04 Thread Jephte CLAIN
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: Nope. The two levels of methods (get/retrieve and new/create) are there to seperate Rack-level concerns from implementation concerns. getItem() and newItem() handle maintenance of Rack-level invariants such as the retrieval cache, while retrieveItem() and

[Zope-dev] site versions with zope

2000-07-04 Thread Nathalie Bernier
Hello, I'd like to modify a live site, instead of working on a mirror copy. Could someone explain me, step by step, how sessions work? Thanks Nathalie Bernier * Développeur web multiThématiques Centre Jean Monet Longlaville 54400 LONGWY

Re: [Zope-dev] Help needed: why is this DTML not working in zope 2 ?

2000-07-04 Thread Chris Withers
You could try moving stuff to the new dtml style for starters: dtml-var standard_html_header and the like. That might help, if not let us know.. cheers, Chris Gilles Lavaux wrote: Hello, I am a little bit disappointed not getting any echo from my previous question, so I report it.

Re: [Zope-dev] Help needed: why is this DTML not working in zope 2 ?

2000-07-04 Thread Gilles Lavaux
Hello Lee !--#var PUBLIC_Doc-- doesn't change anything, same error. (you are right, I can use the name directly , but I have some other piece of code where I have to use the _[_['']] construction, so it has to work...) But I found something: In my 'PUBLIC_Doc' document I display image with a

Re: [Zope-dev] Help needed: why is this DTML not working in zope 2 ?

2000-07-04 Thread Chris Withers
Gilles Lavaux wrote: But I found something: In my 'PUBLIC_Doc' document I display image with a !--# var image_name-- tag, my problem disappear if I use !--#var "image_name"--, someone can explain this?? Are you sure the space after the # isn't your problem? I would STRONGLY recommend

[Zope-dev] Fwd: [Zope-PTK] Area based roles?

2000-07-04 Thread Monty Taylor
Original Message On 7/4/00, 12:45:29 PM, Monty Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [Zope-PTK] Area based roles?: Hi all. I've got an idea of something I'm trying to implement, and I'm wondering if the concept is of use to anyone else. I've got an Intranet up in PTK. (What a

Re: [Zope-dev] Help needed: why is this DTML not working in zope 2 ?

2000-07-04 Thread Gilles Lavaux
Argh!!! no, I made a typo error : it was !--#var image_name--.the syntax was good. Ok, I will use the new syntax in my new sites. But for my old site, I will not modify my ~500 dtml methods, except if there is a way to automate the change. Gilles -Original Message- From: Chris Withers

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-PTK] Roles, Groups, Security and Group Membership

2000-07-04 Thread Monty Taylor
Original Message On 7/4/00, 1:22:04 PM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [Zope-PTK] Roles, Groups, Security and Group Membership: Monty Taylor wrote: Am I making any sense at all? Does anyone see either a need for doing this or a way to do it? If it requires changes to

[Zope-dev] ZEO Replication/Cache

2000-07-04 Thread Monty Taylor
I just installed an instance of ZEO Storage Server with a client on the same machine and a client on a different machine. So far, it seems to work reasonably well, with one exception. None of the changes I've made on one client seem to propagate to the other client unless I restart the other

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] site versions with zope

2000-07-04 Thread Diny van Gool
At 10:38 4-7-00 +0200, Nathalie Bernier wrote: Hello, I'd like to modify a live site, instead of working on a mirror copy. Could someone explain me, step by step, how sessions work? Hi, At http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Guides/ZCMG (Zope Content Manager's Guide) you'll find a section called

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog lexicon bug is back?

2000-07-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Chris Withers writes: I seem to remember Michel being a little less than happy when he saw that code. Quite frankly, I still don't have much confidence in (Z)Catalog (still no docs for all the cool stuff, dodgy bugs and few responses when they're raised...) which is a shame since

Re: [Zope-dev] Help needed: why is this DTML not working in zope 2 ?

2000-07-04 Thread Steve Alexander
Steve Alexander wrote: Gilles Lavaux wrote: Argh!!! no, I made a typo error : it was !--#var image_name--.the syntax was good. Ok, I will use the new syntax in my new sites. But for my old site, I will not modify my ~500 dtml methods, except if there is a way to automate the

Re: [Zope-dev] Help needed: why is this DTML not working in zope 2 ?

2000-07-04 Thread Steve Alexander
Steve Alexander wrote: An external method for automated change from old syntax to new syntax follows. * Use at your own risk * No warranty implied or given * Use on a copy of your main Zope site * Back up data.fs three times before starting * Not guarenteed not to spin your

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog lexicon bug is back?

2000-07-04 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: I am very interested in ZCatalog. I promiss that I will look into it, when I come to 2.2. Thanks, Documentation of the cool stuff which is already there, and making it work 100% reliably are the two main things... cheers, Chris

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPatterns: DropZone example

2000-07-04 Thread Scott Parish
Thus spake Phillip J. Eby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): That's all quite true, but it would probably be simplest to do such a thing using AttributeProviders and SheetProviders in the white-box specialists. It does seem reasonable to have those providers talk to an AccountingProcessor object if you

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPatterns: DropZone example

2000-07-04 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 02:21 AM 7/5/00 +, Scott Parish wrote: Does anybody out there have even the slightest clue about how to go about using AttributeProviders and SheetProviders? A select few terse hints on this subject would really help us (me) figure it out enough to start working on some howto's. You