Re: [Zope-dev] Added rename to ZOPE FTP server

2001-01-22 Thread Chris Withers

Tom Vijlbrief wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've added the rename capability to the Zope FTP-server,
 so I could use the KDE FTP client (this is a known Zope bug).

Cool :-)

Thank you very much

Have you put them into the collector?
http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope-dev] How would I keep _v_* attributes from getting thrown away?

2001-01-22 Thread Dieter Maurer

John D. Heintz writes:
  I am using ZODB along with CORBA to expose peristent objects.  Some of 
  my objects have per-connection/session state.
  ...
  My initial idea is to have a _v_position attribute ...
Using "_v_" attributes for session state is a very bad idea.
They are thread(!) local and not session local.
This means, if a following request of your user (in the same session)
happens to get assigned a different thread, it will read
and update a different position. Chaos is garanteed (though you
will see it only, if your site is loaded).

Use a session product (- zope.org) for session data.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog scalability

2001-01-22 Thread Dieter Maurer

Steve Alexander writes:
  Michael Bernstein wrote:
  
  
   Also, is there a way to disable wildcards in full text
   searches?
  
  Do not allow direct queries to search the catalog. Instead, make 
  searches go through an external method (or a PythonScript with Proxy 
  permissions) that uses string.replace to change '*' and '?' to ''.
Simply do not use a globbing vocabulary is another alternative.


Dieter

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[Zope-dev] Annouce Developer Version DTML-Page-Contract

2001-01-22 Thread ender

hello zen masters

i just finished documenting a developer version of a port of the ACS's 
(arsdigita community system) acs_page_contract to dtml.  test it out,
i'm pretty sure everyone will be happy with the simplification of the 
resulting dtml. 

feed back and thoughts welcome.

if no bugs are found in the next week or so i'll make it a general release,
new filters are always welcome.

available at 

http://www.zope.org/Members/k_vertigo/PageContract.tgz

kapil


readme included below.

README.txt

INSTALL:
extract PageContact.tgz in your zope directory. it will create
a python product in lib/python/Products. you will need to
restart zope before you can use dtml-contract

UNINSTALL:
remove the PageContract directory from lib/python/Products and
restart zope.

I. What
Page-Contract is a python product that adds a new type of dtml-tag 
to your zope installation. dtml-contract is a multi-purpose tag that
is designed to provide documentation, marshalling and filtering of
request data, and custom error handling of the request data. the
documentation comes from a read only section of the contract 
which should describe the purpose of the object, its author, and
some information about its parameters. the marshalling and filtering
is done by naming variables expected in the request and associating
one or more filters with those variables. PageContract comes with
a set of prebuilt filters although it can easily be extended by
writing new filters. lastly it allows association of different
error handlers to different variables.


II. Why
Zope already includes facilties to perform simple marshalling of 
REQUEST values submitted via GET/POST into python data_types. This
facility is built into ZPublisher. There are a couple of problems
with this facility in real world usage. First, ZPublishers 
marshalling isn't secure because it retrievesmarshalling info from
the REQUEST, a cracker could perform url surgery to by pass
the marshalling. Second, ZPublishers marshalling isn't easily
extensible to provide application level support of. The marshalling
is buried square in the guts of the Publishing process, even if you
did extend it would be too early in the Publishing of the object to
perform any meaningful application specific processing (ie you don't
know where you're going so how do you know what you'll see when you 
get there). Third ZPublisher has no concept of excluding parts of 
the REQUEST that aren't needed, this is mitigated by Zope placing the
REQUEST on the bottom of the namespace stack, however it still 
provides a means for accidents (ie. you're expecting this object to have this
attr, but it doesn't but the REQUEST has that attr). dtml-contract 
can optionally strip the REQUEST of variables not explicitly named
within it. Fourth, ZPublisher is inflexible about how it handles 
errors. ZPublisher has hardcoded return values whenever it hits
a bad input AND it short circuits the evalutation. Users don't 
get informative messages regarding their errors other than they 
made one. dtml-contract differs in that it collects all errors 
and associates them with their variables and provides the option
of custom error pages on a variable by variable basis with 
information passing about the errors. (The current implementation
is limited in that it only passes a list of filter errors to the
error handler via a url string.)

The dtml-contract also hopes to offer a standardized form
of documenting your zope objects (DTML_METHODS, DOCUMENTS,
and the like) by standardizing on a documentation format
and a location for that documentation.


III. How
So how do you use it?

dtml-contract

Documentation about this object

@author Kapil Thangavelu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
@params myobj_id the id of the object where after
@params title we'll set the object's title to this value
@params thedate should be the range of the bada and bing
@params foobar optional integer value that tells us whats going on

dtml-params

myobj_id:objid
foobar:integer,optional
thedate:range(date, 1.1.1, 11/11/11)
title:string
dtml-exceptions
myobj_id:my_error_page
generic_error_page
/dtml-contract

Generally dtml-contracts should be used at the start of a dtml
page. why? so they can be easily referenced for documentation
and knowledge of the expected parameters.

Caveats. Note that there are no strict enforcements of the documentation
section. Although some future documentation extraction 

Re: [Zope-dev] How would I keep _v_* attributes from getting thrown away?

2001-01-22 Thread John D. Heintz

Thanks for the warning Dieter,

but I'm managing threads/connections/sessions/POAs and a few other 
things already to expose ZODB objects through CORBA sessions.

I wanted the _v_* attributes to live for the life of the DB Connections.

Last night I found a fix for the bug that prevented me from overriding 
the _p_deactivate() method on Persistent objects, so I think that I will 
just do this:

class ...
def _p_deactivate(self):
temp_position = self._v_position
Persistent._p_deactivate(self)
self._v_position = temp_position


Thanks for the help though.

John

Dieter Maurer wrote:

 John D. Heintz writes:
   I am using ZODB along with CORBA to expose peristent objects.  Some of 
   my objects have per-connection/session state.
   ...
   My initial idea is to have a _v_position attribute ...
 Using "_v_" attributes for session state is a very bad idea.
 They are thread(!) local and not session local.
 This means, if a following request of your user (in the same session)
 happens to get assigned a different thread, it will read
 and update a different position. Chaos is garanteed (though you
 will see it only, if your site is loaded).
 
 Use a session product (- zope.org) for session data.
 
 
 Dieter
 
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[Zope-dev] Local roles and security of ZClass instances in Specialists

2001-01-22 Thread Itai Tavor

Hi,

I'm trying to work out a security strategy for data stored in 
Specialists, where specific users need access to specific data 
instances.

For example: A Customer object is linked to a Person and Address 
objects. The customer needs permission to edit the her - and only her 
- Address object. Using the Owner local role won't work, because 
customers can be registered by site managers and customer support 
people, in which case Owner won't be the customer.

I can solve this by giving the customer a local role when creating 
her Address object:

 Customers.addCustomer(REQUEST):
 ni = container.addItem(some_id)
 container.Addresses.addAddressFor(ni.id, REQUEST)

 Addresses.addAddressFor(for_id, REQUEST):
 ni = container.addItem(some_id)
 ni.manage_addLocalRole(for_id, 'EditMyDetails')

But this can be a lot of work - If an Address object can also be 
created for a CreditCard object, addCreditCard will have to both set 
its own local role, and pass the customer id on to Address...

But the main problem is that I'm not sure if it will work at all - 
can local roles be set for DataSkins that aren't stored in the ZODB? 
 From what I can see ZPatterns doesn't support this, so I'll have to 
do it myself. __ac_local_roles__ can't be accessed in a SkinScript - 
so will I have to override has_local_roles, get_local_roles and 
get_local_roles_for_userid and call them from the SkinScript? This is 
getting hairy...

Without local roles, all I can think of is explicitly checking that 
the logged in user is the right customer in all the methods that 
display and edit the object, which is very ugly. Plus it would 
require Address to know a customer_id even when it actually belongs 
to a CreditCard, not a Customer... there goes Demeter. Or I can add a 
findUserID to Address, CreditCard and Customer, all of which pass the 
request upwards until one is reached that actually knows the 
customer. Still ugly.

TIA for Any comments/suggestions.

Itai
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[Zope-dev] Membership and the 2.3 beta2 ... bug in the latter!

2001-01-22 Thread Bill Anderson

Broke.
broke badly.

Not sur ecompletely why yet, but in 2.3b2, I can't move or copy a 
ZCatalog. There is one in the Membership interface, so as a result, no 
workie there.

After deleteing int from teh membership interface folder, I get a 
traceback complaining about too many arguments in checkRoles (3 instead of 
2). I haven't had time to dig into it yet, so I thought I would toss it up 
here so anyone with visibility to this issue can look at it.


Bill Anderson


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Re: [Zope-dev] Specialist/Rack scalability

2001-01-22 Thread Michael Bernstein

"Phillip J. Eby" wrote:
 
 Just to expand a little on the abov...  Racks should scale at least as
 well, if not larger than a ZCatalog, given the same storage backing for the
 ZODB.  This is because ZCatalog has to manage a minimum of one forward and
 reverse BTree for *each* index, plus another few BTrees for overall storage
 and housekeeping.  Also, keyword and full text indexes store multiple BTree
 entries per object, so that's a factor as well.
 
 So don't worry about the Rack.  If you're using a Rack, you can store the
 data anywhere, and you can index it in an RDBMS, LDAP directory, ZCatalog,
 or some combination thereof, using triggers to keep the data in sync.

Thanks Philip, that's reassuring. I guess now I need to make
certain that the ZCatalog can scale as far as I need it to.

Michael Bernstein.

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[Zope-dev] Is manage_add for products broken?

2001-01-22 Thread Jonothan Farr

Hello all,

One of the Local File System users pointed out that calling
manage_addLocalFS from dtml doesn't work. I did some checking and discovered
that calling manage_addXXX doesn't work for any of the built-in products
either. My testing was with 2.2.5. Am I crazy or didn't this work at one
time? Is there a way to work around this? I couldn't find one.

Thanks very much. Any help is appreciated.

--jfarr



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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog scalability

2001-01-22 Thread Michael Bernstein

We seem to have disposed of the wildcard issue [snipped out
below], and I'm looking forward to Eric's results, but does
anyone else have any information about whether there is a
practical upper limit on how many objects can be indexed and
searched in a ZCatalog?

Michael Bernstein wrote:
 
 After comsidering the feedback I got from the previous
 'Massive scalability' thread, I decided to split my queries
 into two areas: Rack scalability and ZCatalog scalability.
 This email deals with the latter.
 
 [snip]

 What I am interested in for my application are two things:
 
 - ZTopics populated using one or more keyword indexes
 
 - Full text search on a single computed attribute that
 concatenates several fields including the aforementioned
 keyword index fields and a few simple string attributes
 (title, caption, description, etc.)
 
 I need to know how far the ZCatalog will scale using this
 indexing and search strategy. Does anyone have anectodal or
 benchmark data to suggest if (and when) I will hit a 'wall'
 regarding the number of objects being indexed and searched?
 Some anectodal data suggests that single field indexing will
 scale easily to 60,000 objects, but what about hundreds of
 thousands or even millions of objects?

 [snip]

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