Re: [Zope-dev] performance tuning of ZODB

2004-04-27 Thread Syver Enstad
Leonardo Rochael Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Syver, Please add this issue to the Collector, including the test (prefereably without the twisted bits) Eh, what is the Collector? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] What do we want to bring from CVS to Subversion

2004-04-27 Thread Jim Fulton
Jim Fulton wrote: I'm working on the cvs to subversion conversion for the ZODB, Zope 2, and Zope 3 projects. I'm currently doing the conversion of the full history with tags and branches. This is taking a long time and creating a huge repository, which is OK, but, do we really need that much

RE: [Zope-dev] performance tuning of ZODB

2004-04-27 Thread Tim Peters
[Leonardo Rochael Almeida] Please add this issue to the Collector, including the test (prefereably without the twisted bits) [Syver Enstad] Eh, what is the Collector? The zope.org Collectors are here: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/ and you want the Zope Collector:

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RE: [ZODB-Dev] Subversion repository layout

2004-04-27 Thread Martijn Faassen
Kapil Thangavelu wrote: sigh.. debating over what the book says isn't very productive. my conclusions at the end of my previous email, namely that what this layout will accomplish for the zopeorg repository in terms of avoiding renames of checkouts will likely be fairly limited in pratice, still

[Zope-dev] RE: [Zope3-dev] RE: [ZODB-Dev] Subversion repository layout

2004-04-27 Thread Tim Peters
[Kapil Thangavelu] [snip debating over what the book says] sigh.. debating over what the book says isn't very productive. That's for sure wink. my conclusions at the end of my previous email, namely that what this layout will accomplish for the zopeorg repository in terms of avoiding

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Book at ZopeWiki.org

2004-04-27 Thread Simon Michael
Yeah, this is exactely what I would need. Maybe I could ask someone to install this for me. Mmmhh, ... Hi Stephan.. I'll look into installing it on zopewiki for experiments. If someone wants to enable it on zope.org as well I will support. ___

[Zope-dev] Re: The bleak Future of Zope?

2004-04-27 Thread Simon Michael
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RE: [Zope-dev] Change in repository approach to software sharing

2004-04-27 Thread Tim Peters
[Jim Fulton] The Zope project includes a number of interrelated subprojects, such as: - Zope 2 - Zope 3 - ZODB - ZConfig Software from the ZODB and ZConfig projects are shared by Zope 2 and Zope 3. Note that ZODB also depends on ZConfig. We want this sharing to be very

[Zope-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversion transition tomorrow

2004-04-27 Thread Jim Fulton
Tomorrow, as planned. I'm going to move the main development branches for Zope 2, Zope 3, and ZODB to subversion. I will start the move at 10am US/Eastern time tomorrow. I plan to be done before 5pm US/Eastern time. During this time, I ask that no one make checkins to the CVS head for those

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope Book at ZopeWiki.org

2004-04-27 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 27 April 2004 14:42, Simon Michael wrote: Yeah, this is exactely what I would need. Maybe I could ask someone to install this for me. Mmmhh, ... Hi Stephan.. I'll look into installing it on zopewiki for experiments. If someone wants to enable it on zope.org as well I will

[Zope-dev] is threading in zope really useful ?

2004-04-27 Thread sathya
greetings, I read somewhere that each zope thread acquires the global python interpreter lock before processing a request and until it releases it the other zope threads are essentially locked out. Does that mean zope threads are eventually serialized and there are no benefits to be gained

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Policy for Collector-Issues 545 and 1217?

2004-04-27 Thread Jamie Heilman
here's the patch I'd have attached to http://zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1217 if the collector could collect -- Jamie Heilman http://audible.transient.net/~jamie/ Paranoia is a disease unto itself, and may I add, the person standing next to you may not be who they appear to be,

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] RE: [ZODB-Dev] Subversion repository layout

2004-04-27 Thread Kapil Thangavelu
On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 10:27, Martijn Faassen wrote: Kapil Thangavelu wrote: sigh.. debating over what the book says isn't very productive. my conclusions at the end of my previous email, namely that what this layout will accomplish for the zopeorg repository in terms of avoiding

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversion transition tomorrow

2004-04-27 Thread Jim Fulton
Jim Fulton wrote: Tomorrow, as planned. I'm going to move the main development branches for Zope 2, Zope 3, and ZODB to subversion. I will start the move at 10am US/Eastern time tomorrow. I plan to be done before 5pm US/Eastern time. During this time, I ask that no one make checkins to the CVS

RE: [Zope-dev] Re: Policy for Collector-Issues 545 and 1217?

2004-04-27 Thread Tim Peters
[Jamie Heilman] here's the patch I'd have attached to http://zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1217 if the collector could collect FYI, I attached the patch to the collector report (nothing magical -- it just worked for me). ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL

[Zope-dev] is threading within zope useful ?

2004-04-27 Thread sathya
greetings, I read somewhere that each zope thread acquires the global python interpreter lock before processing a request and until it releases it the other zope threads are essentially locked out. Does that mean zope threads are eventually serialized and there are no benefits to be gained

[Zope-dev] is threading in zope useful ?

2004-04-27 Thread sathya
greetings, I read somewhere that each zope thread acquires the global python interpreter lock before processing a request and until it releases it the other zope threads are essentially locked out. Does that mean zope threads are eventually serialized and there are no benefits to be gained

RE: [Zope-dev] is threading in zope useful ?

2004-04-27 Thread Tim Peters
[sathya] I read somewhere that each zope thread acquires the global python interpreter lock before processing a request and until it releases it the other zope threads are essentially locked out. The Python GIL (global interpreter lock) affects all code written in Python: only one thread at a

Re: [Zope-dev] is threading in zope useful ?

2004-04-27 Thread sathya
Tim Peters wrote: tim thanks much for the explanation. some points below. [sathya] I read somewhere that each zope thread acquires the global python interpreter lock before processing a request and until it releases it the other zope threads are essentially locked out. [tim] No. The GIL

RE: [Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] ATTENTION! cvs to subversion transitiontomorrow

2004-04-27 Thread Tim Peters
[Jim Fulton] ... You will be able to do read-only anonymous checkouts like so: svn co svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/project/trunk For example: svn co svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/ZConfig/trunk FYI, I tried that on Windows (XP), and it worked fine. One glitch, which may be all over

Re: [Zope-dev] is threading in zope useful ?

2004-04-27 Thread Christian Theune
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 03:41, sathya wrote: [sathya] great ! If I understand correctly, if we had a zope process running on an smp linux machine and doing lots of RDBMS calls we would not be limited by the GIL. In essence threads running on multiple cpus would probably not have to wait on