[Zope-dev] Heads-up: Zope 2.8, Zope 3 and Five
Hi all - At the Paris sprint, a plan was hatched to integrate Five into Zope 2.8, which Jim, Andreas and others responsible for release management have endorsed. This will hopefully actually help spur 2.8 to the finish line as well as begin to provide an upgrade path into the future for Zope 2 developers. What this will essentially mean for is that: - Five will ship in the core distribution with Zope 2.8 - A subset of the Zope X3.0 packages will ship in the core distribution ...so it will be possible to use a number of Zope 3 technologies and patterns in existing Zope 2 applications. The Five integration layer provides support for Zope 3 interfaces, Zope Configuration Markup Language (ZCML), adapters, views, utilities, schema-driven content, and Zope 3 add and edit forms. Note that the Five layer does *not* attempt provide a ZMI user interface for Zope 3 components. Zope 2.8+ will include the essential Zope 3 packages, so it will not be necessary to install Zope 3 separately. If you are interested, there is now a 'five-integration' branch in Z2 SVN where this work is going on. Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] V.P. Engineering 540.361.1716 Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Heads-up: Zope 2.8, Zope 3 and Five
On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 04:57:00PM +0100, Christian Heimes wrote: I really *love* to have Five and parts of ZopeX3 in Zope2 but I don't like how it is happening. Zope 2.8 is starting to stablize and still contains some critical bugs like the incompatibility with old style BTrees and you are going to add a heavy bunch of new features to it. [Could you point me to the issue or mail describing the old-style BTree problem? I may have run into it under another name or something.] I would prefere this way: * Get Zope 2.8.0 out ASAP * Branch of Zope 2.9 from 2.8 when 2.8 is in rc phase. 2.9 should be the target for ZopeX3 and Five only, no other features so you can get 2.9 out some month afte 2.8.0. Release often, release early and one step after another. You are going to make the same ugly and bad mistake we made with Plone 2.0.0. :( I completely understand where you're coming from and I share the worries. Some things mitigate this problem: * integrating Five doesn't actually imply many significant changes to Zope 2.8; it'll just be its own product. * integrating zope 3 only means some integration in the build script for Zope 2. It's just a Python library otherwise. * we're separating the work on Zope 2.8 and Zope 2.8 + Five, so we can back out from this plan if we want to, later, and go the 2.8 and 2.9 route anyway. So, in effect, we're not actually *creating* any new features. We're also not doing any deep integration work (Five already has that work). The features already exist and we're just distributing them along with the standard Zope 2.8 distribution. We're not ambitious about new stuff at all. I hope that is somewhat different from the path Plone took for 2.0. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Overriding Products
Hello guys. I have a question regarding product importing in zope 2.7.x, as since zope 2.7 this part is way more flexible then it was before. I'd like to accomplish the next situation : - A Zope base installation has Product X installed in /lib/python/Products which I want to change or develop further - x instances of Zope use the produtc from this base install. - At one instance I want to test and develop, without breaking the other instances. - Copying the Product X folder to the instance_home/Products folder is not an option, as import conflict errors occure if you do not remove the product from the base installation. - Copying a local version in all 4 instances is a solution, but to manage that will cost alot of work, especially if you have alot of instances. - What I really want is that you can copy the Product X folder to the Products (or CustomProducts for example) of an zope instance, and that zope will figure out itself that it should import that version of the product instead of the copy in the base installation. 'Overriding' base products is the name you could give this situation. I tried alot myself, for example checking in the __init__.py if there is a copy of this product in instance_home/CustomProducts and then importing that product instead of my own, but I always get into trouble : AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Classname' It doesn't have to work for all products, only for some of the products that we are developing ourselfs. We also have a different structure than normal products as following : Main Product - Sub product X - Sub product Y In the __init__.py of Main product we import and initialize the subproducts. The idea is to put one of those subproducts in a zope instance/CustomProducts folder for further development and that the other instances of zope still uses the base version of the subproduct. I hope you can help, thanks in advance for your time. Kind regards, -- Martijn Jacobs East Site | Postbus 642 | 6800 AP Arnhem t: +31 (0) 26 35 14 295 | f: +31 (0) 26 44 20 432 @: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | w: www.eastsite.nl ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Odd behavior of undoable_transactions()
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 06:57:28PM +0100, Florent Guillaume wrote: You're right. Please put it in the collector. The prefixes should indeed be matching only at '/' boundaries. OK, issue created at http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1726 and assigned to myself. If nobody objects soon, I will check in tests fixes on both the 2_7 CVS branch and on the SVN trunk. (Is there a 2_8 branch in SVN too? I haven't worked there much yet.) -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
