[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Jul 17 11:00:00 2008 UTC to Fri Jul 18 11:00:00 2008 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Jul 17 21:01:24 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-July/009870.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Jul 17 21:02:57 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-July/009871.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Jul 17 21:04:27 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-July/009872.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Jul 17 21:05:57 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-July/009873.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Jul 17 21:07:27 EDT 2008 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-July/009874.html ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Please use 'svn mv'
I would like to remind everyone that when you do refactorings and move code around, to please use 'svn mv' or 'svn cp'. For instance, when you split a large file into two smaller ones, use 'svn cp' to create the second file and then remove stuff from it that doesn't go there. That way, version history isn't lost for neither parts of the code. The same goes for splitting up packages (moving components into a library package, for instance). Thanks. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2008 03:55 schrieb Florian Friesdorf: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:20:58AM +0200, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: Am Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2008 05:48 schrieb Florian Friesdorf: InternalPrincipal is a persistent object used to store the data of principals in a PrincipalFolder, PrincipalInfo is returned upon successfull authentication and handed to FoundPrincipalFactory, which extracts some information and returns Principal objects. Ok, this is how I see it, too. But let me describe my understanding more specific: I see it that way that applications with authentication will normally have something like a user object, which stores all related authentication/user information. This user object may reside in a RDB, a text file, or, as here, in a PrincipalFolder (as an InternalPrincipal). I would put the object in quotation, too, as for example in RDB it isnt an object at all, but simply authentication data + properties and, yes, this corresponds to InternalPrincipal. Yes, that's o.k. In my specific application, I use an ORM, thus table rows are mapped to objects - user objects. If I understand it right, a Principal is an entity that is the result of an authentication process and holds all needed information for authorization. However, it is not designed to store user specific information, e.g. login names, user names and the like. And PrincipalInfo is somehow a specific aggregation of user data, which can be used throughout the application. This object may have to be inherited to an extended MyPrincipalInfo object, as many applications may need extra info from this object. So, both the Principal and PrincipalInfo objects have to be created out of the user object, it is not possible to create a Principal out of a PrincipalInfo and reverse. I think you are wrong here: Maybe I was, I mixed some things up, it seems. zope.app.authentication.authentication.PluggableAuthentication.authenticate is the place to look at. 1. a PrincipalInfo object is got by calling authenticateCredentials from an authplugin Yes, true. For that reason, my AuthenticatorPlugin overwrites the authenticateCredentials method and retrieves the internal principal (=my user object), builds an appropriate PrincipalInfo object and returns that. 2. this is handed to an AuthenticatedPrincipalFactory, which returns a Principal object Right. so I was wrong above: The Principal object is built out of the PrincipalInfo object. However, that's exactly the problem: The only data I have to create the Principal, is the PrincipalInfo object. Thus I lose any extra user information. So, in order to transport needed information from the user - Principal, I have two options: 1) Stuff out PrincipalInfo with all needed data that my Principal needs 2) In the AuthenticatedPrincipalFactory I would query for my internal user object (InternalPrincipal) and transfer all needed data to the Principal from there. In my application, I chose (1) for performance reasons, although, I have to admit, is quite complicated, as I have to create a customer PrincipalInfo class etc., moreover, the IPrincipalInfo class states: class IPrincipalInfo(zope.interface.Interface): Minimal information about a principal. For variant (1) it has to hold a lot more information, so it contradicts the meaning of this class. So, PrincipalInfo is internal to PAU and as far as I figured does not leave it. Objects that leave PAU are those created by AuthenticatedPrincipalFactories, for authentication, and by FoundPrincipalFactories, for searches - In case of PrincipalFolder that is Principal objects in both cases. Yes, that's true. - I need to administer the user, e.g. change password etc.: I'd use the user object (InternalPrincipal) for that. I would again use the principal object, which transparently performs the changes wherever they are necessary, i.e all properties of the user are available from the Principal object and changes to them will happen on their actual source. Hmmm, interesting. - user object: There seems to be no zope3 support for that yet - so it seems I have to do this manually (some getUser(login) function, get the login from request.principal.id[lenAUTH_PREFIX):], not very pretty, though.). principal is the user object Ok, it seems that the principal is really the representation of my user object and may hold anything I need. In case you store your userdata in RDB, you do not need InternalPrincipal at all. I currently see to options: 1. custom AuthenticatorPlugin, AuthenticatedPrincipalFactory and FoundPrincipalFactory from principalfolder.py. Your AuthenticatorPlugin would need to return PrincipalInfo objects. Further, you write an event handler that listens for FoundPrincipalCreated and AuthenticatedPrincipalCreated, which puts all needed/wanted properties onto the Principal object, which was created by one of the factories. Those
[Zope-dev] could zope.sqlalchemy flush before committing?
I complained recently about problems with things disappearing from an in-memory sqlite database. It appears that my problems were actually symptoms of something else: that, so far as I can see, doing a transaction.commit() when SQLAlchemy is active does *not* first do a session().commit()! This means that the following sequence in a test suite: p = Person(name='Brandon') s = session() s.add(p) transaction.commit() s.attribute = 'an illegal value' Traceback: ... Exception: the database does not allow that attribute to have that value transaction.rollback() Instead, to make this work, one has to write the first stanza as: p = Person(name='Brandon') s = session() s.add(p) s.flush() # Sheesh transaction.commit() Could zope.sqlalchemy be improved so that, on transaction commit, the current SQLAlchemy session is first flushed before being committed? -- Brandon Craig Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rhodesmill.org/brandon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: could zope.sqlalchemy flush before committing?
Brandon Craig Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I complained recently about problems with things disappearing from an in-memory sqlite database. It appears that my problems were actually symptoms of something else: that, so far as I can see, doing a transaction.commit() when SQLAlchemy is active does *not* first do a session().commit()! Drat. I meant, as I hope the code examples that followed made clear, that doing a transaction.commit() does not do a session().flush(). -- Brandon Craig Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rhodesmill.org/brandon ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Martijn Faassen wrote: Okay, so we can safely add Chris (and also Philipp) to the list of people maintaining our windows binary eggs. Awesome! Chris, do you think you can take it from here in getting an environment set up? Would be rgeat to have a bullet point list for how to get a suitable environment set up given that I don't have mingw32 and have never used it before in my life :-S Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Chris Withers wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Okay, so we can safely add Chris (and also Philipp) to the list of people maintaining our windows binary eggs. Awesome! Chris, do you think you can take it from here in getting an environment set up? Would be rgeat to have a bullet point list for how to get a suitable environment set up given that I don't have mingw32 and have never used it before in my life :-S There are too tutorials out there: http://www.z3lab.org/sections/blogs/philipp-weitershausen/2007_07_26_cheap-binary-windows is the simple version. http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/using-ploneout-on-windows Is the more detailed one including screenshots... Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be rgeat to have a bullet point list for how to get a suitable environment set up given that I don't have mingw32 and have never used it before in my life :-S Like this? http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/using-ploneout-on-windows -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems http://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be rgeat to have a bullet point list for how to get a suitable environment set up given that I don't have mingw32 and have never used it before in my life :-S Like this? http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/using-ploneout-on-windows But I'm alergic to things with plohn in the title 0.5 wink Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Chris Withers wrote: Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be rgeat to have a bullet point list for how to get a suitable environment set up given that I don't have mingw32 and have never used it before in my life :-S Like this? http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/using-ploneout-on-windows But I'm alergic to things with plohn in the title 0.5 wink That's why I posted you the link to the tutorial from Phillip as well, so even if you'd look into mine, you wouldn't have to admit it ;) Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Chris Withers wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Okay, so we can safely add Chris (and also Philipp) to the list of people maintaining our windows binary eggs. Awesome! Chris, do you think you can take it from here in getting an environment set up? Would be rgeat to have a bullet point list for how to get a suitable environment set up given that I don't have mingw32 and have never used it before in my life :-S I've pointed you at the Windows section in http://plone.org/documentation/tutorial/buildout/prerequisites at least once now. Maybe you'll manage to swallow your aversion to Plone and read it this time? It really isn't hard at all. Martin -- Author of `Professional Plone Development`, a book for developers who want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
