Re: [Zope-dev] mailing list 'noise'

2000-09-29 Thread Rik Hoekstra
Karl Anderson wrote: Ken Manheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I dont see this as a problem: You only create a new list when the traffic for that proposal gets too great for zope-dev. Threading is good enough before that point. Yes, but zope-dev has a relatively high

Re: [Zope-dev] StructuredText: Best possible :-S

2000-09-29 Thread Chris Withers
Ken Manheimer wrote: As i did in my example, by indentation. (This is a primary component of the "structure" in StructuredText. Maybe we're not being clear enough about that in our explanations of structured text - i would expect that not knowing about it could make it much much harder to

Re: [Zope-dev] WikiDot

2000-09-29 Thread Chris Withers
Ken Manheimer wrote: (I wonder whether having a single quick ref page for structured text, linked to on every edit form, would go a long way to reducing those objections. Particularly if the quick ref page is clear and concise.) Not really... the fact that you even need one of those is why

Re: [Zope-dev] URL Traversability of non-page objects

2000-09-29 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Chris Withers writes: A **page** is the result of applying presentation to data in the object system. A page is a particular result of a URL when viewed under certain conditions. I'd like to add to this: components used to make up 'page's

Re: [Zope-dev] Soft links again

2000-09-29 Thread Ibañez Palomar Juan David
Hi Shane, and thanks for Symlink, it's a big step towards solve the problem, but remains an issue... It would be great if the symbolic link could have a different id than the object referenced. But with the __of__ based solution "link.id" is always "referenced_object.id". How this could be

Re: [Zope-dev] Soft links again

2000-09-29 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Ibañez Palomar Juan David wrote: It would be great if the symbolic link could have a different id than the object referenced. But with the __of__ based solution "link.id" is always "referenced_object.id". How this could be done? I think you'd need a special kind of

Re: [Zope-dev] Soft links again

2000-09-29 Thread Ibañez Palomar Juan David
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Ibañez Palomar Juan David wrote: It would be great if the symbolic link could have a different id than the object referenced. But with the __of__ based solution "link.id" is always "referenced_object.id". How this could be done? I think you'd need a special

[Zope-dev] Fix for Can't Change Image File Security Settings in Zope 2.2.x

2000-09-29 Thread Chris Withers
Hi, You may, like me, have noticed that you can't change security settings on Image and File objects in Zope 2.2.x. This is because the __call__ method of these objects was removed by the appropriate bit of __ac_permissions__ wasn't taken out. The patch in the PS fixes this... cheers, Chris

[Zope-dev] Only using ZODB, not Zope Re: New Proposal: PersistentBlob

2000-09-29 Thread John D. Heintz
Hi Greg, Thanks for the pointer. I briefly looked at this Product and the CVSMixin Product as well, but have one requirement that unfortunately I _didn't_ explain clearly in my proposal. I am not using Zope, only the ZODB so a Zope Product will not help me. My first goal with the proposal was

Re: [Zope-dev] mailing list 'noise'

2000-09-29 Thread Ken Manheimer
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Rik Hoekstra wrote: Karl Anderson wrote: I read the 2-10 articles that I'm probably interested in, and miss the 95% which is almost always noise. The question is why you'd want to receive all this if you don't have to (as remarked above). As I understood it, the

Re: [Zope-dev] why cant i rename an object from an external method

2000-09-29 Thread Andy McKay
Grrr That works fine. But it annoys me I cant use a standard function to that. I like to use a standard function and use the checking that someone else wrote. old_id = obj.id() new_id = ASPNTools.safetymunge(obj.id()) self = obj.aq_parent ob = obj

[Zope-dev] Skinscript tutorial. How's it going?

2000-09-29 Thread topcheese
Just wondering if there is a new time frame. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

[Zope-dev] ZPL HowTo?

2000-09-29 Thread Lalo Martins
We wished to release the new development version of HiperDom under the ZPL, but we figured it wouldn't be that simple, as the license text is all littered with "Digital Creations". Is it just a matter of s/Digital Creations/Hiperlógica/g? Is this even legal? (This message is mostly rethorical,

Re: [Zope-dev] How is 'retrieveItem intended to work with TTW Specialists?

2000-09-29 Thread Steve Spicklemire
Thanks so much for the response... It turns out, I tried the Python Method and it had the same basic problem as the DTML Method... however I've now moved on, using deletageRetrieve to a new thorny issue. ;-) When I get an object from of another specialist it appears that it doies not inherit

Re: [Zope-dev] Namespace trouble

2000-09-29 Thread Dieter Maurer
Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=F6nemeyer?= writes: if've had little namespace problems with this code-snipped (dtml-method): dtml-with REQUEST dtml-in "[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8]" dtml-call "REQUEST.set('row_index',_['sequence-index'])" dtml-var "REQUEST.get('row_index')" dtml-var

Re: [Zope-dev] Skinscript tutorial. How's it going?

2000-09-29 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 06:33 PM 9/29/00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if there is a new time frame. FWIW, I have begun writing a SkinScript reference document on the ZPatterns Wiki. Lots of sections are just outlines at the moment, but it's already much better than any other available information

Re: [Zope-dev] How is 'retrieveItem intended to work with TTW Specialists?

2000-09-29 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 03:14 PM 9/29/00 -0500, Steve Spicklemire wrote: Thanks so much for the response... It turns out, I tried the Python Method and it had the same basic problem as the DTML Method... however I've now moved on, using deletageRetrieve to a new thorny issue. ;-) When I get an object from of

[Zope-dev] two-phase-commit question

2000-09-29 Thread Kapil Thangavelu
ZOPE_HOME/lib/python/Shared/DC/ZRDB/TM.py Glancing over the Transaction TM mixin class... i noticed a line commit=tpc_abort=tpc_begin i can understand tpc_begin=commit, but the abort seems strange. if an abort happens in the two phase commit the equality doesn't make sense to me. whats going