Re: PossitionIndex (was: Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog phrase indexingrevisited)

2001-06-20 Thread Chris Withers
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Andreas Jung wrote: These are good ideas to improve the TextIndex. I already encouraged Erik to put alltogether into a Fishbowl proposal, Which I would do, if I had time. Which I will have, but not for another two weeks. :-) I'm guessing this is the point at

Re: PossitionIndex (was: Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog phrase indexingrevisited)

2001-06-20 Thread Erik Enge
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Chris Withers wrote: I'm guessing this is the point at which your problems become mine? ;-) *evil laughter* Yes :-) We should write about it and publish it to the community... ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Zope-dev] Re: [SmartObjects] Zope Object Query Language (ZOQL) Proposal

2001-06-20 Thread Philip Wadler
I play an active role in the W3C working group designing XQuery, a query language for XML. I'm not familiar with ZOPE and it's query language. Who should I meet with to learn more? If XQuery doesn't meet the needs of the ZOPE team, I'd like to understand why. If there are missing features

[Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Morten W. Petersen
Hi there, we @ thingamy are considering changing our license to a ZPL-ish one [1] to better serve our clients' needs. However, some of the (Zope) products we've developed may need to rely on GPL'ed code, or needs to be incorporated within it, and the 'obnoxious advertising clause' seemingly

[Zope-dev] Add a user to zope

2001-06-20 Thread Johan Beauce
Hello, I need your help. I'm trying to add all users from of our company in zope. I don't want enter all users and all passwords. I would like make a dtml-method which select all users and passwords in my (SQL) table and create automatically these users. I have created this dtml-method but I

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 04:50:33PM +0200, Morten W. Petersen wrote: we @ thingamy are considering changing our license to a ZPL-ish one [1] to better serve our clients' needs. However, some of the (Zope) products we've developed may need to rely on GPL'ed code, or needs to be incorporated

Re: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl not problem centered enough

2001-06-20 Thread Casey Duncan
Jay, Dylan wrote: Fishbowl is a great idea but it seems to be that its solution focused rather than problem focus. Perhaps if you had a page that listed all the problems with zope or problems that need to be solved that isn't as easy as it could be with zope. The fishbowl is also pull

[Zope-dev] Using db_connections from Zope products

2001-06-20 Thread Tom Brown
I would like to make an SQL query directly from python code. Do I have to make a ZSQL Method dynamically, or is there another way without making the class database dependent (i.e. Gadfly, PoPy, etc), utilizing an existing db_con? Suppose I am using the ZPoPy DA and have established a

[Zope-dev] Re: ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Simon Michael
Steve Drees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here comes the liscence wars again. Nope. Please don't drag down a constructive thread. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML

RE: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
On 20 Jun 2001 10:38:03 -0500, Steve Drees wrote: Here comes the liscence wars again. Still haven't figured out how GPL became the holy grail. the terms on the gpl are (by choice) the strictiest (does that word even exists?) ever seen in a free software license. but a lot of people 'believe'

Re: [Zope-dev] Using db_connections from Zope products

2001-06-20 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 08:54:41AM -0700, Tom Brown wrote: I would like to make an SQL query directly from python code. Do I have to make a ZSQL Method dynamically, or is there another way without making the class database dependent (i.e. Gadfly, PoPy, etc), utilizing an existing db_con?

RE: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Erik Enge
On 20 Jun 2001, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: i am sure that the QPL and the ZPL are completely incompatible but nobody cares because nobody really thinks that one is better than the other... I might be misunderstanding here, if that's the case I appologies. Just to clarify, for us at

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 06:27:08PM +0200, Erik Enge wrote: On 20 Jun 2001, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: i am sure that the QPL and the ZPL are completely incompatible but nobody cares because nobody really thinks that one is better than the other... I might be misunderstanding here, if

RE: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
On 20 Jun 2001 18:27:08 +0200, Erik Enge wrote: On 20 Jun 2001, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: i am sure that the QPL and the ZPL are completely incompatible but nobody cares because nobody really thinks that one is better than the other... I might be misunderstanding here, if that's the

Re: [Zope-dev] dtml-in batching badly

2001-06-20 Thread Michael Bernstein
seb bacon wrote: * Joachim Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010618 20:28]: That's not the behaviour I'd expect. Can anyone confirm this is a bug? As LEE Kwan Soo has already said, it is not a bug, but a clever (too clever?) feature that should maybe not be enabled by default. Every

Re: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl not problem centered enough

2001-06-20 Thread Ken Manheimer
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:24:40 -0600, Casey Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay, Dylan wrote: Fishbowl is a great idea but it seems to be that its solution focused rather than problem focus. Perhaps if you had a page that listed all the problems with zope or problems that need to be

Re: [Zope-dev] Using db_connections from Zope products

2001-06-20 Thread Tom Brown
Thanks fo the info! I had seen those How-Tos... but was really asking.. How can I use APIs directly instead of having an External ZSQL method. I have created a product and would like to be able to do sql queries in order to populate members of my class. For this example, I have the creation of

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Jan-Oliver Wagner
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 10:38:03AM -0500, Steve Drees wrote: Here comes the liscence wars again. Still haven't figured out how GPL became the holy grail. The license dicussion takes place elsewhere as all of you surely know. License wars tend to come up at various places but are usually not

Re: [Zope-dev] Add a user to zope

2001-06-20 Thread Dyon Balding
Hi Johan, It would probably be more efficient for you to look at alternative user folders that retrieve user data directly from your SQL table. I'm not sure the current state of the art product is for that, but UserDb used to be the one, and we have that integrated successfully in our site.

Re: [Zope-dev] dtml-in batching badly

2001-06-20 Thread Dyon Balding
Michael Bernstein wrote: But the algorithm doesn't seem 'smart' enough to roll-up the batches by recursing through them in reverse order. Arguably though, you should never set your batch size smaller than the orphan size, so this isn't really an issue. so maybe the dtml batching code

[Zope-dev] Re: Fishbowl not problem centered enough

2001-06-20 Thread Simon Michael
Ken Manheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WikiForNow project. As soon as i'm clear form a current project i *may* be able to concentrate on at least formulating a reasonable quick-and-dirty way to do notifications, and getting it done for the Hey Ken - since you used the magic words

Re: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl not problem centered enough

2001-06-20 Thread Casey Duncan
Ken Manheimer wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:24:40 -0600, Casey Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay, Dylan wrote: Fishbowl is a great idea but it seems to be that its solution focused rather than problem focus. Perhaps if you had a page that listed all the problems with zope or

[Zope-dev] Re: ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Simon Michael
Jan-Oliver Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The license dicussion takes place elsewhere as all of you surely know. License wars tend to come up at various places but are usually not competent discussions. With respect - loose talk of license wars should be avoided. What you say is true but

Re: [Zope-dev] Using db_connections from Zope products

2001-06-20 Thread Tom Brown
You want to recreate all of the machinery of ZSQL methods yourself? No, I want to be able to intelligently use pieces that are already there. Well, actually it can be done if your database supports some reasonable API, like the python DB-SIG DB-API 2.0. I know it can be done, which is

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Hmm, I think this discussion doesn't belong to zope-dev. Still, for those interested in that topic: I raised a similar question on the debian-legal mailing list just yesterday (Q: Combining proprietary code and GPL for in-house use). The discussion is still ongoing, and it certainly gives you

Re: [Zope-dev] Add a user to zope

2001-06-20 Thread Dieter Maurer
Johan Beauce writes: I need your help. I'm trying to add all users from of our company in zope. I don't want enter all users and all passwords. I would like make a dtml-method which select all users and passwords in my (SQL) table and create automatically these users. I have created

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 08:05:43PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 01:12:20PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: It appears to me, that, if you want to play it safe, you would not distribute the code under license G and license T on the same medium. It is certainly acceptable

Re: [Zope-dev] Using db_connections from Zope products

2001-06-20 Thread Dieter Maurer
Tom Brown writes: I would like to make an SQL query directly from python code Suppose I am using the ZPoPy DA and have established a database connection externally. Database connections expose an interface to ZSQL methods, that you can use directly from your Python code. I do not

[Zope-dev] Access to extra modules in Python Scripts

2001-06-20 Thread Dyon Balding
I wanted to make the re module accessible to Python Scripts on my site. The instructions in the README.txt in the product directory specify that you should place: from Products.PythonScripts.Utility import allow_module allow_module('re') in a product __init__.py. This appears to work fine for

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.4: Unicode, Berkeley Storage?

2001-06-20 Thread Randall F. Kern
I was just reading the Zope 2.4.0 plan on dev.zope.org, and I have two questions: 1. Will Unicode be supported (UTF-8 encoding) for results, posted data, marshaled arguments, etc? 2. Will the BDB storage be standard with 2.4? Transactional Undo sounds _very_ nice. Thanks, -Randy

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
On 20 Jun 2001 13:12:20 -0400, Jim Penny wrote: Also, as an aside, if this really concerns you, you might wish to consider contacting the author of the GPL product. There is nothing to prevent him from giving you different licensing terms. For most GPL authors, this comes down to a simple

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-20 Thread Michel Pelletier
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: Hmm, I think this discussion doesn't belong to zope-dev. It's very informitive to me so far. I have no problem with discussing it here. -Michel ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl not problem centered enough

2001-06-20 Thread Jay, Dylan
-Original Message- From: Ken Manheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2001 2:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Casey Duncan; Jay, Dylan; Paul Everitt; Jim Fulton Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl not problem centered enough On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:24:40 -0600,

RE: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl not problem centered enough

2001-06-20 Thread Jay, Dylan
-Original Message- From: Casey Duncan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 21 June 2001 3:30 AM To: Ken Manheimer Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jay, Dylan; Paul Everitt; Jim Fulton Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl not problem centered enough I agree that the fishbowl is

[Zope-dev] apology

2001-06-20 Thread Simon Michael
reviewing the thread just now, I couldn't figure out how Jan-Oliver first participated and then argued against it. Now I think he was responding to Steve Drees and not saying what I thought he said. Sorry Jan! :) so-far-so-good-ly'rs, -Simon ___

[Zope-dev] and thanks

2001-06-20 Thread Simon Michael
dtml-tree made me look good today :). Thanks DC! ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

[Zope-dev] Zope BackTalk Working Session Invite

2001-06-20 Thread Chris McDonough
(details also available via http://www.mindview.net/Seminars/BackTalkWorkingSession/) INTRODUCTION If you're a seasoned Zope, Python, or collaborative technology developer, you're invited to Crested Butte, Colorado between July 7 (Sat) - 10th (Tues) to help in a working session which has as a

RE: [Zope-dev] Add a user to zope

2001-06-20 Thread Marco Nova
this is the piece of external method I use to import a user into a CMF portal. [...snip...] import Zope def add_zope_user( username, passwpord, email, fullname ): applic = Zope.app() roles = ['Member'] domains = '' properties =

[Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.3.3 released

2001-06-20 Thread Brian Lloyd
Hello all, Zope 2.3.3 has been released - you can download it from Zope.org: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.3.3/ Zope 2.3.3 is a relatively minor bug-fix release. It contains fixes for a few issues since 2.3.2 and includes the fixes included in all hotfix releases to date.