[Zope-dev] Re: [DISCUSS] Committer agreement not even handed and threadening

2001-09-27 Thread Dieter Maurer

Paul Everitt writes:
 http://dev.zope.org/CVS/Contributor.pdf

The Committer Agreement does not seem to be even handed:

   The committer transfers rights immediately and indefinitely
   to Zope Corporation (the contributions become a gift to
   Zope Corporation).

   The agreement states explicitly that no rights are transfered
   to the committer.

   This is not a problem in itself. However

  My intention to contribute would be to strengthen
  the Open Source Movement. A statement that
  the supported code base (Zope) will remain open source
  and that committers will be able to use it (indefinitely)
  under terms comparable to the current ZPL would
  help to let the agreement to appear more balanced


The Commitrer Agreement is quite threadening:

   A committer takes over a considerable risk (complete warranty
   and indemnification with respect to intellectual rights infringement).

   The risk is far higher than that of a (german) employee.
   German employment law recognizes that

 *  all people make (sometimes) errors
 *  coping with isolated errors is far easier for
a larger community (the big employer) than
a single individual.

   Therefore, it uses the term Fahrlässigkeit (carelessness).
   An employee has to take all care to not make errors during
   his work. If something bad happens due to slight
   carelessness (leicht fahrlässig), then this is
   a general risk which has to be taken by the employer.
   If serious carelessness (grob fahrlässig) was the cause,
   then the employee has to take the consequences for himself.

   We should have something similar for the committer agreement
   (not restricted to intellectual property rights!).
   Maybe something like an insurance for slight carelessness
   cases...

   Otherwise, commiting anything might easily ruin an individual.
   Especially with the strange US Patent Laws (where almost
   everything (such as presenting information in a popup window
   or integrating a Web Frontend with a baking oven) can
   be patented) and incredibly high damages amounts
   (5 billion for a smoker who got cancer) assigned in US courts.


I will probably read replies to this message only in several weeks.
Don't be surprised when I remain silent for some time


Dieter

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[Zope-dev] Adding a permission to an ObjectManager derived ZCLass

2001-09-27 Thread Michael R. Bernstein

Hi all,

I posted this 24 hours ago on the main zope list, but didn't receive a
response, so I'm reposting here.

I've got an ObjectManager and Folder derived ZClass that contains
instances of a second rather simple ZClass.

It works fine, the Manager role can access the management interface of
the container, add edit and delete instances of the contained ZClass,
and Anonymous can view index_html.

Now, I am trying to add a permission to the container ZClass that will
let a user with a specialized role that has the permission view the
management interface (the 'Contents' tab) of the container and add,
edit, or delete the simple ZClass instances in the container.

The container doesn't have any property sheets, but the simple ZClass
does.

Does anyone have a simple walkthrough of what I need to do? The Zope
Book only discusses adding a permission to control access to a Property
Sheet.

Thanks in advance,

Michael Bernstein.



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[Zope-dev] update Zcatalog

2001-09-27 Thread Johan Beauce

Hello,

I use Zcatalog to index my file. This file change often. They are deleted,
added or modified.
I have two choices to update my ZCatalog :
first 
when I add a file, I add the file to the catalog (but it doesn't work)

dtml-let docAdding=_.getattr(PARENTS[0], idName)
  dtml-call
companyDoc.catalog.catalog_object(docAdding,_.string.join(docAdding.getPhys
icalPath(),'/'))
/dtml-let

when I delete a file, I delete the file from the catalog (but it doesn't
work)

dtml-let docAdding=_.getattr(PARENTS[0], idName)
  dtml-call
companyDoc.catalog.uncatalog_object(_.string.join(docAdding.getPhysicalPath
(),'/'))
/dtml-let

second 
clear the catalog, and create all indexes in catalog again.

dtml-tree
dtml-if objectValues(['File'])
dtml-call
companyDoc.catalog.catalog_object(id,_.string.join(docAdding.getPhysicalPat
h(),'/'))
/dtml-if
/dtml-tree

Can you help me to this two solutions work please ?

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[Zope-dev] ImportError

2001-09-27 Thread Nils Wiegandt

Hello to all of you,

I want to import a website written on a Windows NT machine with Zope
2.4.0 to
a Solarisserver with Zope 2.4.1, but it doesn' t work!?

following error ocurred:

Zope Error

  Zope has encountered an error while publishing this
resource.

  Error Type: ImportError
  Error Value: No module named Splitter



  Troubleshooting Suggestions

   The URL may be incorrect.
   The parameters passed to this resource may be
incorrect.
   A resource that this resource relies on may be
encountering an error.

  For more detailed information about the error, please
refer to the HTML source for this page.

  If the error persists please contact the site maintainer.
Thank you for your patience.

Traceback (innermost last):
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,

line 223, in publish_module
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,

line 187, in publish
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py,
line 226, in zpublisher_exception_hook
(Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions)
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,

line 171, in publish
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py,

line 160, in mapply
(Object: manage_importObject)
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,

line 112, in call_object
(Object: manage_importObject)
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py,

line 584, in manage_importObject
(Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions)
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py,

line 150, in importFile
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py,

line 302, in commit
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py,
line 307, in commit
  File
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py,

line 219, in _importDuringCommit
ImportError: (see above)


Thanks for help

Nils


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Re: [Zope-dev] ImportError

2001-09-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

nils,

this is actually a bug in 2.4.1. a file was omitted that makes changes to 
the Splitter modules backwards-compatible for content and catalogs that 
have been created under an earlier version of Zope.

AFAIK this will be fixed in the next release, what you can do right now is 
to make a file Splitter.py on the file system under 
zope/lib/python/Products/PluginIndexes/TextIndex/Splitter/ZopeSplitter 
with the content::


from ZopeSplitter import *
Splitter = ZopeSplitter


that fixed it for me.

jens





On Thursday, September 27, 2001, at 06:50 , Nils Wiegandt wrote:

 Hello to all of you,

 I want to import a website written on a Windows NT machine with Zope
 2.4.0 to
 a Solarisserver with Zope 2.4.1, but it doesn' t work!?

 following error ocurred:

 Zope Error

   Zope has encountered an error while publishing this
 resource.

   Error Type: ImportError
   Error Value: No module named Splitter



   Troubleshooting Suggestions

The URL may be incorrect.
The parameters passed to this resource may be
 incorrect.
A resource that this resource relies on may be
 encountering an error.

   For more detailed information about the error, please
 refer to the HTML source for this page.

   If the error persists please contact the site maintainer.
 Thank you for your patience.

 Traceback (innermost last):
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,

 line 223, in publish_module
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,

 line 187, in publish
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py,
 line 226, in zpublisher_exception_hook
 (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions)
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,

 line 171, in publish
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py,

 line 160, in mapply
 (Object: manage_importObject)
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,

 line 112, in call_object
 (Object: manage_importObject)
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py,

 line 584, in manage_importObject
 (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions)
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py,

 line 150, in importFile
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py,

 line 302, in commit
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py,
 line 307, in commit
   File
 /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py,

 line 219, in _importDuringCommit
 ImportError: (see above)


 Thanks for help

 Nils


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Re: [Zope-dev] ImportError

2001-09-27 Thread Nils Wiegandt



Thaks for your help, but it doesn't work for me.
So far, I have deleted the catalog, but have the same Error when importing it.

Jens Vagelpohl wrote:

 nils,

 this is actually a bug in 2.4.1. a file was omitted that makes changes to
 the Splitter modules backwards-compatible for content and catalogs that
 have been created under an earlier version of Zope.

 AFAIK this will be fixed in the next release, what you can do right now is
 to make a file Splitter.py on the file system under
 zope/lib/python/Products/PluginIndexes/TextIndex/Splitter/ZopeSplitter
 with the content::

 from ZopeSplitter import *
 Splitter = ZopeSplitter

 that fixed it for me.

 jens




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Re: [Zope-dev] ImportError

2001-09-27 Thread Andreas Jung

hmm..
ZopeSplitter/__init__.py already contains

   from ZopeSplitter import ZopeSplitter as Splitter

Andreas
- Original Message -
From: Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nils Wiegandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 08:07
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] ImportError


 nils,

 this is actually a bug in 2.4.1. a file was omitted that makes changes to
 the Splitter modules backwards-compatible for content and catalogs that
 have been created under an earlier version of Zope.

 AFAIK this will be fixed in the next release, what you can do right now is
 to make a file Splitter.py on the file system under
 zope/lib/python/Products/PluginIndexes/TextIndex/Splitter/ZopeSplitter
 with the content::


 from ZopeSplitter import *
 Splitter = ZopeSplitter


 that fixed it for me.

 jens





 On Thursday, September 27, 2001, at 06:50 , Nils Wiegandt wrote:

  Hello to all of you,
 
  I want to import a website written on a Windows NT machine with Zope
  2.4.0 to
  a Solarisserver with Zope 2.4.1, but it doesn' t work!?
 
  following error ocurred:
 
  Zope Error
 
Zope has encountered an error while publishing this
  resource.
 
Error Type: ImportError
Error Value: No module named Splitter
 
 
 
Troubleshooting Suggestions
 
 The URL may be incorrect.
 The parameters passed to this resource may be
  incorrect.
 A resource that this resource relies on may be
  encountering an error.
 
For more detailed information about the error, please
  refer to the HTML source for this page.
 
If the error persists please contact the site maintainer.
  Thank you for your patience.
 
  Traceback (innermost last):
File
 
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,
 
  line 223, in publish_module
File
 
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,
 
  line 187, in publish
File
  /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py,
  line 226, in zpublisher_exception_hook
  (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions)
File
 
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,
 
  line 171, in publish
File
 
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py,
 
  line 160, in mapply
  (Object: manage_importObject)
File
 
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,
 
  line 112, in call_object
  (Object: manage_importObject)
File
 
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py,
 
  line 584, in manage_importObject
  (Object: ApplicationDefaultPermissions)
File
 
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py,
 
  line 150, in importFile
File
  /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/Transaction.py,
 
  line 302, in commit
File
  /www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py,
  line 307, in commit
File
 
/www/server/Zope-2.4.1-solaris-2.6-sparc/lib/python/ZODB/ExportImport.py,
 
  line 219, in _importDuringCommit
  ImportError: (see above)
 
 
  Thanks for help
 
  Nils
 
 
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Re: [Zope-dev] Z2.log file not showing user name correctly

2001-09-27 Thread Andreas Jung

Logging the authenticated user works for me (trunk/branch).

Andreas
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From: Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: R. David Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]; George Nguyen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 17:02
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Z2.log file not showing user name correctly


 Someone (Shane?) claimed that 2.4.1 removes this optimization.

 - Original Message -
 From: R. David Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: George Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Z2.log file not showing user name correctly


  On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, George Nguyen wrote:
   I was looking in the entries in the Z2.log file and it
   lists the user as being Anonymous when I'm actually
   logged in as a validated user.
 
  This is very likely the result of an
authentication...optimization?...done
  by the security machinery:  if the resource requires only Anonymous
  permission to access, then no further security checks are done,
  including identification of the user.  This leads to various unexpected
  behaviors, presumably this among them, and there has been at least
  one motion to change this behavior.  I don't know if it has made it
  into the Fishbowl yet or not.
 
  --RDM
 
 
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[Zope-dev] HTMLFile vs DTMLFile

2001-09-27 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen

Hello!

Why would one want to use DTMLFile or HTMLFile, and what are the
differences, benefits or drawbacks of each?

Thanks in advance,

/dario - wanting to understand...

- 
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[Zope-dev] Small bug in DTMLFile

2001-09-27 Thread Juan David Ibáñez Palomar


Hello,

(I think) there's a very small bug in 'App/special_dtml.py'. In Zope
2.4.1, the line 231 is:

  if bind_to in ('container', 'client'):

I think it should be:

  if bind_to in ('container', 'context'):

The problem shows when subclassing DTMLFile and trying to change the
value of _Bindings_client. The bug is also in the CVS.


jdavid

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Re: [Zope-dev] HTMLFile vs DTMLFile

2001-09-27 Thread Toby Dickenson

On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:48:45 +0200, Dario Lopez-Kästen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why would one want to use DTMLFile or HTMLFile, and what are the
differences, benefits or drawbacks of each?

Both of them use files stored in the filesystem, which means they are
completely trusted. No security checks are performed as they execute.

DTMLFile is the usual choice. It sets up the dtml namespace so that
the first place searched is the object that the DTMLFile is an
attribute of.

HTMLFile doesnt tweak the namespace in this way; it will be in the
same state as provided by your caller. This makes it very easy to open
a security hole. HTMLFile should be avoided unless you have a very
good reason to need it.

(there was a full description of the potential security hole in the
Collector)

Toby Dickenson
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Re: [Zope-dev] zcatalog and versions

2001-09-27 Thread Oliver Bleutgen

Thanks for the fast reply Casey.

Casey Duncan wrote:
 On Thursday 27 September 2001 12:48 pm, Oliver Bleutgen allegedly wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm resending this to zope-dev because on zope
 nobody answered, it would be very nice if someone
 could step up with a small hint.



 Can somenone briefly explain what exactly gets
 locked in zope 2.3.3's catalog when it tries to
 index an object which is hold in a version?
 The whole catalog?

 Any Btree buckets (in the indexes) which get changed get locked, which can
 effectively lock out other changes to the catalog. This is a limitation of
 the way the indexes are implemented, for which, sadly, there is no easy
 fix.



 I found some answers which indicate that it has
 to do with the catalog when we see version lock errors
 where there shouldn't be any (from a naive POV).
 I would like to know how far reaching these problems
 are, because I'm currently rewriting an application,
 and I might be able to work around that.

 I would suggest that if any objects are reindexed in a version, that no
 cataloged objects should be reindexed in any other version until that
 version
 is saved.

I hope I understand you correctly, but I'd say that if there's already 
a locked bucket, I've lost. There's no guarantee how long this 
particular version will stay uncommitted. I would also have to check 
anyhow whether there is a lock somewhere in the catalog's index.

 You could also get around that by deferring the indexing until the version
 is
 commited, but this will take some coding on your part. 

This seems easier - if I'm a little bit lax about when the indexing occurs.
Like making the object only index/reindex/unindex itself if it's not in
a version, and combining that with a nightly cronjob which reindexes
all (non-versioned) documents. 

With some coding on your part you mean making Version.py more intelligent?

Like instead of just doing commitVersion(s,'') doing the following:

1) search for objects which have been deleted in the 
  version
2) search for objects which want to catalog themselves 
  and are locked in version s
3) unindex the objects found in 1)
4) commit version
5) index/reindex objects found in 2)

Where it's not clear to me how to prevent that 3) and 5) will
not itself get versioned.


 Ultimately I think
 that ZCatalog should do this for you, or at least somehow let indexes have
 concurrent versioning (any volunteers?)

I should say that I really don't grasp this ZODB voodoo, but I 
suspect that this will also be not too easy. AFAIK, the decision 
to write in a version (and in which) is taken deep down in 
zope's innards.

 I am thinking about writing a fishbowl proposal for ZCatalog upgrades
 sometime next month, and this is one potential problem areas to address
 there, especially as things like the CMF make it more ubiquitous

If I don't misunderstand how versions work (not unlikely), it might
be necessary in the end rather to improve versions than the zcatalog 
in order to remedy this specific problem.

thanks again,
oliver

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[Zope-dev] Start your business for UNDER $10 - ah13

2001-09-27 Thread CC Computer Consulting Co.


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[Zope-dev] [BugPatch] range searches for FieldIndexes fail

2001-09-27 Thread Dieter Maurer

 affected Zope 2.4.1 and Zope CVS (from about 1 1/2 weeks ago).

Patch attached.

Dieter



--- PluginIndexes/common/UnIndex.py~Fri Jun  1 20:53:40 2001
+++ PluginIndexes/common/UnIndex.py Thu Sep 27 19:09:30 2001
@@ -399,6 +399,7 @@
 if record.get('range',None):
 opr = range
 opr_args = []
+range= record.get('range')
 if range.find(min)-1:  opr_args.append(min)
 if range.find(max)-1:  opr_args.append(max)
 



Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Dying

2001-09-27 Thread Dieter Maurer

Andre Schubert writes:
  Yesterday our Zope(2.2.5) on redhat 6.2 immunix was dying 3-4 times in
  about 2 hours.
  There are nothing to report in all the logs zope can produce.
  But is there a way that zope makes a core dump when he is dying
  unexpectly?
ulimit -c 2
in the shell before you start Zope...


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[Zope-dev] 2.5 roadmap and schedule?

2001-09-27 Thread Michael R. Bernstein

The current roadmap for Zope 2.5 sets an alpha release date for sometime
in september, but is that still likely?

Michael Bernstein.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope

2001-09-27 Thread kapil thangavelu

On Wednesday 26 September 2001 04:41 pm, Andy McKay wrote:

 trying-to-auto-generate-a-wsdl-from-my-product'ly yours

they're is a python script/product on ibm.com/developer that will automate 
much of the wsdl generation or you. its linked from one of uche's web 
services articles. its under the IPL (ibm pl).

hth

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Re: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope

2001-09-27 Thread kapil thangavelu

On Thursday 27 September 2001 08:15 am, Brian Lloyd wrote:
  Can I ask what the current status of the WebServices for Zope project is?
 
  http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/WebServicesForZope/FrontPage
 
  Wiki says I had been shooting for something at the end of September, but
  that has been overtaken by events :( I'll be trying to work on this on an
  as-possible basis
 
  trying-to-auto-generate-a-wsdl-from-my-product'ly yours
  --
Andy McKay.

 Well... the status is that I'm trying to work on it on an
 as-possible basis :) The problem is that it hasn't been very
 possible for the last few weeks.


i've been very curious, what the plan is for attacking the no magic problem 
described on the wiki. my understanding is this isn't possible without 
altering the publishing process. i guess i was curious if the component based 
publisher that was talked about at ipc9 was ever going to see the light of 
day or if there was another strategy that would work as well.

curious,

kapil thangavelu

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