Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Wei He
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Chris Withers wrote: People will be really confused to see such results: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZopeBook/Documentation http://www.zope.org/Images Why would they see such URLs? Normally would not. But if I know such a site is managed by Zope, I can

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
From: Wei He [EMAIL PROTECTED] An object (say index_html) is inherited by child objects of the site say Document to make http://www.domain.com/Document share the upper level index_html. This sounds good but acutally not I think. It not only sounds good, but it is good.No, it' is fantastic.

Re: [Zope-dev] access to ZCatalog-data via xmlrpc

2002-05-30 Thread Joachim Schmitz
--On Mittwoch, Mai 29, 2002 16:15:44 +0100 Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 3:24 pm, Joachim Schmitz wrote: Hi, I want to acces a ZCatalog via xmlrpc, but server=xmlrpclib.Server(http://myserver.aixtraware.de;

Re: [Zope-dev] access to ZCatalog-data via xmlrpc

2002-05-30 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 30 May 2002 10:35 am, Joachim Schmitz wrote: You could hack xmlrpclib to marshall those object, but I dont recommend it. Those objects can be big (but lazily evaluated), and you would be opening a significant denial of service vulnerability in your server. But it also can

Re: [Zope-dev] access to ZCatalog-data via xmlrpc

2002-05-30 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Joachim Schmitz wrote: --On Mittwoch, Mai 29, 2002 16:15:44 +0100 Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 29 May 2002 3:24 pm, Joachim Schmitz wrote: Hi, I want to acces a ZCatalog via xmlrpc, but server=xmlrpclib.Server(http://myserver.aixtraware.de;

Re: [Zope-dev] access to ZCatalog-data via xmlrpc

2002-05-30 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 30 May 2002 11:11 am, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: XML-RPC only has a limited set of types it can marshal and that can't be changed without breaking the standard. Yes, that means you unmarshall some xml-rpc data into a python None. xmlrpc doesnt have support for marshalling class

Re: [Zope-dev] access to ZCatalog-data via xmlrpc

2002-05-30 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 30 May 2002 11:29 am, Toby Dickenson wrote: Yes, that means you unmarshall some xml-rpc data into a python None. Argh. That means you *cant* unmarshall some xml-rpc data into a python None. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Shane Hathaway
Lennart Regebro wrote: From: Wei He [EMAIL PROTECTED] An object (say index_html) is inherited by child objects of the site say Document to make http://www.domain.com/Document share the upper level index_html. This sounds good but acutally not I think. It not only sounds good, but it is

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 30 May 2002 10:29 am, Lennart Regebro wrote: It not only sounds good, but it is good.No, it' is fantastic. Amazing. Totally unbelivingly great! It's one of the best and main features of Zope. Is anyone relying on your site to provide information? How do you test your site to make

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Steve Alexander
Toby Dickenson wrote: My conclusions are: a. implicit acquisition is dangerous b. acquisition that searches outside the containment hierarchy is evil. Im not keeping up with Zope 3 development. how does Zope 3 handle acquisition? There is no implicit acquisition in Zope 3. If

[Zope-dev] fsrecovery in Zope 2.4 ?

2002-05-30 Thread Julián Muñoz
In Zope 2.5 CHANGES.txt is said Provided a much more robust tool for recovering data from damaged FileStorage files I would like to know what tool it is. Is it lib/python/ZODB/fsrecovery.py ?? As I can't upgrade to Zope 2.5 now, I would like to know if it is possible to install and

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Andy McKay
gt; Looking at the zope.org logs, I once saw GoogleBot generate URLs like gt; this to zope.org of 1000 characters or more. Teehee, Googlebot once hit ZopeZen for about 3 days in a continuous loop. Just use absolute_urls. Always. Its one of Zope's golden rules. Mind you I've abused acquistion a

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Adrian Hungate
Hmmm... interesting points... However I almost completely disagree. The only part of URL implicit acquisition that I have a problem with is acquiring from outside the VHost, but if you plan properly, you can even avoid this. I have written several sites that use this feature, and I have found

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Simon Michael
Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looking at the zope.org logs, I once saw GoogleBot generate URLs like this to zope.org of 1000 characters or more. I had this too, leading to heavy traffic what's more. Cf http://zwiki.org/TheRobotProblem. Since then, as a temporary measure I set the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Casey Duncan
The namspace traversal in Zope 2 severely violates the principle of least surprise IMO. Although you can use this to clever ends, it opens up many doors to misuse of a site or even significant security holes. For instance, it used to be possible to access the Control Panel (and shutdown Zope)

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Adrian Hungate
Hmm... being able to acquire the Control_Panel (or anything) and it taking on the wrong security context was a bug, and AFAIK it has been corrected. Before I start sounding like I did in a previous thread, I am starting to have some very serious doubts about the direction Z3 development is

[Zope-dev] Interested in sprinting at EuroPython 2002?

2002-05-30 Thread Paul Everitt
First, as a friendly reminder for EuroPython 2002: ***Early registration is open !!!*** *** https://secure.zope.nl/europython/Registration *** Deadline is May 31. Now, on to the good stuff. The EuroPython 2002 conference, http://www.europython.org, is in

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Wei He
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Andy McKay wrote: gt; Looking at the zope.org logs, I once saw GoogleBot generate URLs like gt; this to zope.org of 1000 characters or more. Teehee, Googlebot once hit ZopeZen for about 3 days in a continuous loop. Just use absolute_urls. Always. Its one of Zope's

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Tim Hoffman
But whilst you might think acquisition looks like inheritance it isn't Please don't confuse the two, they really are different, and until you think about them differently, I believe you won't necessarily grasp the significance of acquisition, or use it properly. Any