Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.03.2009 8:50 Uhr, Chris McDonough wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: 2) I'm also not in favor of a giant lockstep set of software versions shared between notional releases Zope 3.5, Grok, and Zope 2.12. I can only see this as continuing our

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Chris McDonough
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 07:52, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: Tather than reply in kind here, let me summarize: I'm glad we agree more than we disagree, and I apologize if I've attributed to you beliefs that you don't have. It's heartening to hear that you're

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Mittwoch 04 März 2009 07:52:09 schrieb Chris McDonough: Tather than reply in kind here, let me summarize: I'm glad we agree more than we disagree, and I apologize if I've attributed to you beliefs that you don't have. It's heartening to hear that you're in favor of most of the things I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 09:21, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: To the extent we can discourage the formation of the one-big-group-to-rule-them-all by encouraging the formation of smaller groups, I think it's a good idea.  But in reality, I think nothing needs to be done: group-forming

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:04, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: What I don't see in your proposal is, how these subset-groups would be coordinated, which leads to the following: - How would these groups be formed? If there's nobody who encourages people to do so, They will be formed

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Mittwoch 04 März 2009 08:16:26 schrieb Lennart Regebro: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 07:52, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: Tather than reply in kind here, let me summarize:  I'm glad we agree more than we disagree, and I apologize if I've attributed to you beliefs that you don't have.

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Baiju M
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: [snip] - I think, Zope 3 is not only about some seperate packages, but about a complete programming experience. Thus there needs to be some integrating force, that draws together all these packages, writes some

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Hermann Himmelbauer
Am Mittwoch 04 März 2009 10:25:19 schrieb Lennart Regebro: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:04, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: What I don't see in your proposal is, how these subset-groups would be coordinated, which leads to the following: - How does some foreigner know, if a package is

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:56, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: Am Mittwoch 04 März 2009 10:25:19 schrieb Lennart Regebro: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:04, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: What I don't see in your proposal is, how these subset-groups would be coordinated, which

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 6 OK

2009-03-04 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Tue Mar 3 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Wed Mar 4 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 6 messages: 6 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Tue Mar 3 20:21:23 EST 2009 URL:

Re: [Zope-dev] Review of zc.dict tlotze-blist branch

2009-03-04 Thread Gary Poster
On Mar 4, 2009, at 2:20 AM, Thomas Lotze wrote: Gary Poster gary.pos...@gmail.com schrieb: Index: src/zc/dict/configure.zcml === --- src/zc/dict/configure.zcml (.../trunk) (revision 0) +++ src/zc/dict/configure.zcml

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Paul Everitt
On 3/4/09 1:07 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: Sorry, the you above in you scolded was Martin Aspeli, not Faassen. Note that the scolding had something to do with you breaking Plone trunk due to a transitive change in Chameleon, and the realisation that

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martin Aspeli
Paul Everitt wrote: When I read Martin's post, I had a similar reaction. Namely, that the convenience of the Uberthing (Plone in this case) will always trump the desire of packages trying to survive on their own for new audiences. At the time of the configuration scolding, I remember

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.component/branches/tseaver-wo_zope_deferred/

2009-03-04 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Tres Seaver wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Log message for revision 97465: Branch removing zope.deferred. This checkin is the branch I had in mind when sketching out a non-CPython-only zope.component story today. Wonderful, +1 I think the change makes sense from the perspective of

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Paul Everitt
On 3/4/09 8:16 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Paul Everitt wrote: When I read Martin's post, I had a similar reaction. Namely, that the convenience of the Uberthing (Plone in this case) will always trump the desire of packages trying to survive on their own for new audiences. At the time of the

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Kent Tenney
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: Am Mittwoch 04 März 2009 07:52:09 schrieb Chris McDonough: Tather than reply in kind here, let me summarize:  I'm glad we agree more than we disagree, and I apologize if I've attributed to you beliefs that you don't have.

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Paul Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project On 3/4/09 8:16 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: [...] Chameleon provided something that made it work for those users, while allowing it to not be burdened by those needs. Everybody wins. Hopefully such solutions will be the norm in

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.component/branches/tseaver-wo_zope_deferred/

2009-03-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Korostelev wrote: 2009/3/4 Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com: - - Due to the 'test' extra, buildout pulls in a bunch of extra dependencies, which I would like to zap (ZODB? really? just to verify that the persistent registry survives

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Paul Everitt
On 3/4/09 9:47 AM, Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Paul Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project On 3/4/09 8:16 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: [...] Chameleon provided something that made it work for those users, while allowing it to not be burdened by those needs. Everybody wins.

Re: [Zope-dev] Coding style clarifications

2009-03-04 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: Zvezdan Petkovic wrote at 2009-2-19 13:06 -0500: I can adapt to any style and believe that the fine grain details should not be dogmatically enforced but rather allow for variations in such subjective preferences. +1 + sys.maxint Chris -- Simplistix - Content

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Gary Poster wrote: On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey Gary, [panarchist approach where we have people starting groups that could compete for attention] [Had to look up panarchist, but yes, essentially.] I shouldn't have used that word, I actually didn't realize

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Hanno Schlichting wrote: [snip] You can try to bake more leadership of the overall Zope community into this, but I think this is a fruitless fight right now. Reduce the scope, try make some things better and don't step on other peoples feet if you don't need to. For example don't

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey there, Chris McDonough wrote: 1) I'm not in favor of a single steering group for the *entirety* of all Zope software. We've tried a similar thing in the past (via the foundation structure); it didn't work and I'm not sure how we'd expect things to turn out any differently this time.

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Andreas Jung wrote: [snip] This would definitely make sense to me. With respect to a steering committee: I am also a bit skeptical about such a committee. I think that the upcoming ZF board will have a good representation of each Zope project on the board in order to address things

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 04 March 2009, Martijn Faassen wrote: I don't agree the Zope Foundation board should directly steer development of the Zope software. I totally agree. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter Web Software Design, Development and Training Google me. Zope Stephan Richter

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Chris McDonough wrote: [snip] This just seems like a blindingly obvious antigoal to actually breaking apart the software into more discrete bits using eggs. Why not just stick with a huge tarball release or one single egg if it all has to be versioned through time to 99% of its consumers

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Lennart Regebro wrote: [snip] And it is in any case in no way even remotely connected to the group Martijn proposed and has been discussed in this thread. Of course it is connected. The Zope Framework needs leadership that can help: - bless efforts by individuals and subgroups that

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Baiju M wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: [snip] - I think, Zope 3 is not only about some seperate packages, but about a complete programming experience. Thus there needs to be some integrating force, that draws together all these packages, writes

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.03.2009 17:26 Uhr, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Andreas Jung wrote: [snip] This would definitely make sense to me. With respect to a steering committee: I am also a bit skeptical about such a committee. I think that the upcoming ZF

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 17:48, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Note that the Zope Steering group is not about packages that are not in the framework, so if lovely.remotetask isn't there, it can say little. Which is exactly my point. It surely isn't at the moment, and I don't see

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Paul Everitt wrote: [snip] Hopefully the Zope Framework proposal helps untangle this, and gets to a point where you don't have to keep the Uberthing in your head when doing something small. It's not small, as it has an impact on a lot of things that build on zope.component.

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 18:03, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: I'd like there to be someone who can make this decision and I'd like this someone to usually make *positive* decisions that work towards resolving the underlying issue, while coordinating with everybody that is

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 trunk: getting 'mkzopeinstance' / 'mkzeoinstance' working

2009-03-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tres Seaver wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: I looked at this, but guessing or reliably getting to the zopepy script wasn't possible. So I added an explicit option to the script instead and documented

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 trunk: getting 'mkzopeinstance' / 'mkzeoinstance' working

2009-03-04 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.03.2009 18:18 Uhr, Tres Seaver wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: I looked at this, but guessing or reliably getting to the zopepy script wasn't possible. So I added an explicit

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andreas Jung wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04.03.2009 17:26 Uhr, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Andreas Jung wrote: [snip] This would definitely make sense to me. With respect to a steering committee: I am also a bit skeptical about such a committee. I think

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Chris McDonough
Martijn Faassen wrote: snip * A clear set of explicit, layered dependencies in software is generally a good thing. We can start thinking about smaller pieces better. By splitting up into individually packaged and released bits, we are forced to think about these things more. (I'm running

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 17:48, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Note that the Zope Steering group is not about packages that are not in the framework, so if lovely.remotetask isn't there, it can say little. Which is exactly my point. It surely isn't at the

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.component/branches/tseaver-wo_zope_deferred/

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, I think all this makes sense, so +1 from me. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.file/trunk/ Update package mailing list address. Remove zpkg stuff.

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Baiju M wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/2 Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com: -include package=zope.file/ I believe people still use the ZCML slug files like the above. They certainly aren't related to 'zpkg'. The intent of the slugs was to

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 18:03, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: I'd like there to be someone who can make this decision and I'd like this someone to usually make *positive* decisions that work towards resolving the underlying issue, while coordinating with

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.component/branches/tseaver-wo_zope_deferred/ Branch removing zope.deferred.

2009-03-04 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/3/4 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com: Dan Korostelev wrote: 2009/3/4 Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com: Note that I'm not actually proposing that we merge this branch any time soon:  it is a bit of a straw man for the ongoing process conversation. Why not? It looks that it's just a

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Baiju M
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: [snip] The steering group isn't intended to take a responsibility for the entirety of the Zope software. Zope 2, Grok and the Zope 3 app server (which would be a distinct entity) would manage themselves and the Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: snip * A clear set of explicit, layered dependencies in software is generally a good thing. We can start thinking about smaller pieces better. By splitting up into individually packaged

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Chris Withers
Chris McDonough wrote: I believe to get success here (measured as gaining new Python developer users), our path forward needs to be way, way, way more radical and needs to involve making hard choices that treat individual packages on their own merit rather than even considering their role as

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 18:27, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: If it's impossible for these people to agree when discussing on this mailing list today, why would the suddenly agree on this mailing list if we call them The Zope Framework Steering Group? I really don't understand

[Zope-dev] Declaration of the foundation of the Zope Framework and Steering Group

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Enough discussion. I'm taking a few next steps so we can make progress. I'm going to arbitrarily assume we have enough of a consensus to move forward. Next step is to Just Do It, as Gary said. So, as of right now, we have the Zope Framework. We have a Zope Framework Steering Group.

[Zope-dev] producing a list of packages in the Zope Framework?

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, The Zope Framework Steering Group needs your help. Could people get together and help draw up a list of packages that should be in the Zope Framework? We should get everything in the Zope 3 KGS listing and start whittling it down, by removing things that are obviously not part of

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey everybody, This thread is now closed, thanks everybody for your contributions! See my unilateral announcement about the formation of the Steering Group and Zope Framework. It do its best to try to balance the concerns in this thread. Regards, Martijn

[Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, We have an area called 'zope3docs': http://svn.zope.org/zope3docs/ which contains many documents that are actually more about the Zope Framework than the Zope 3 app server. In fact I suspect all of these documents are more about the framework than anything else, so we should move

[Zope-dev] decisions of the Zope Framework Steering Group

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, This document contains the decisions made by the Zope Framework Steering Group: http://svn.zope.org/zopeframework/trunk/decisions.txt This is the project area for the zopeframework steering group: http://svn.zope.org/zopeframework/trunk It is currently designated to contain

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-04 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/3/4 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com: Hi there, We have an area called 'zope3docs': http://svn.zope.org/zope3docs/ which contains many documents that are actually more about the Zope Framework than the Zope 3 app server. In fact I suspect all of these documents are more about

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote: [snip Well, that docs are currently not necessarily about the zope framework (as far as I understood what's zope framework now), but more about general development guidelines applied to any package in zope svn

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Paul Everitt wrote: [snip] Hopefully the Zope Framework proposal helps untangle this, and gets to a point where you don't have to keep the Uberthing in your head when doing something small. It's not small,

Re: [Zope-dev] the Zope Framework project

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey Tres, Could you repost this to a new thread as I think people aren't paying attention to this thread very much anymore? I'd very much like to make progress on actual cleanups now. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.file/trunk/ Update package mailing list address. Remove zpkg stuff.

2009-03-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: Baiju M wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/2 Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com: -include package=zope.file/ I believe people still use the ZCML slug files like the above.

[Zope-dev] Stripping down zope.component

2009-03-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (reposted at Martijn's request in a new thread). Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Paul Everitt wrote: [snip] Hopefully the Zope Framework proposal helps untangle this, and gets to a point where you don't have to keep the Uberthing in your head

[Zope-dev] the future of ZCML slugs?

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Tres Seaver wrote: [snip] Those files exist to allow for a use case we may have abandoned, which is allowing packages to be installed in such a way that a tool could help users enable / disable their configurations, without mutating something like 'site.zcml'. The folks who might

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.component/trunk/ Merge the 'tseaver-wo_zope_deferredimport' branch:

2009-03-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Korostelev wrote: 2009/3/5 Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com: Log message for revision 97501: Merge the 'tseaver-wo_zope_deferredimport' branch: Great! Thank you! - Added a pure-Python 'hookable' implementation, for use when

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zope.component/trunk/ Merge the 'tseaver-wo_zope_deferredimport' branch:

2009-03-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Tres Seaver wrote: [snip] It probably could be (in fact, I prototyped it there first). However, it turns out that zope.hookable has effectively *no* clients beyond zope.component, which meant that I could lose the 'install_requires' dependency altogether by moving the pure-Python bits to

Re: [Zope-dev] Stripping down zope.component

2009-03-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: snip 4. Rework zope.hookable to use a pure-Python implementation via descriptors, instead of the C extension. Make it a non-optional dependency (but small and lightweight) of zope.component. If *current*

[Zope-dev] zope.publisher

2009-03-04 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Martijn, Shane I fixed some issues in zope.publisher and at the same time I implemented the default skin pattern within an adapter pattern. The adapter getDefaultSkin in zope.publisher.browser.py is registered in configure.zcml The changes are compatible within the zope core but only if

[Zope-dev] Dependency of zope.deprecation in zope.configuration

2009-03-04 Thread Baiju M
Hi, zope.deprecation is used in zope.configuration *only* to turn off deprecation warning when accessing attribute of an object in one place. But there is no test case or comment about when such a warning will occur. I have pasted the relevant code here: def resolve(self, dottedname):

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.publisher

2009-03-04 Thread Shane Hathaway
Roger Ineichen wrote: Shane, Can you review and merge this changes into your zope.pipeline branch? I'm going to put zope.pipeline on hold until the PyCon sprints. Jim and I need to discuss it in person; hopefully then I can understand his opposition and the group can decide on the best

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependency of zope.deprecation in zope.configuration

2009-03-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: Hi, zope.deprecation is used in zope.configuration *only* to turn off deprecation warning when accessing attribute of an object in one place. But there is no test case or comment about when such a warning will occur. I

Re: [Zope-dev] Dependency of zope.deprecation in zope.configuration

2009-03-04 Thread Baiju M
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: Hi,    zope.deprecation is used in zope.configuration *only* to turn off deprecation warning when accessing attribute of an object in one place.  But

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-04 Thread Christian Theune
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 20:50 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote: [snip Well, that docs are currently not necessarily about the zope framework (as far as I understood what's zope framework now), but more about

Re: [Zope-dev] zope3docs - zopeframework?

2009-03-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 5, 2009, at 08:24 , Christian Theune wrote: As Dan pointed out, some of those documents are a bit more general than Zope Framework, but, then again, they're also more general than Zope 3. So even for that its better to have them in