[Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Christian Theune
On 09/11/2009 05:58 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Fred Drake wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: So, could you please follow this policy for ZTK packages in SVN? I suspect it would help if packages that are part of the ZTK have that indicated

Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Christian Theune wrote: I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile to announce policy changes in a separate thread. Good point. I'll do that in the future; please remind again if it doesn't happen. Regards, Martijn

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 8 OK

2009-09-18 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Sep 17 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Fri Sep 18 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Sep 17 20:44:25 EDT 2009 URL:

Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 18 September 2009, Christian Theune wrote: I've also taken the liberty to update the ZTK policy to say that this should be done. (other steering group members can call me back if they don't like this policy change :) I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile

Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Christian Theune
On 09/18/2009 02:04 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 18 September 2009, Christian Theune wrote: I've also taken the liberty to update the ZTK policy to say that this should be done. (other steering group members can call me back if they don't like this policy change :) I'm happy with

Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Christian Theune
On 09/18/2009 09:21 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Christian Theune wrote: I'm happy with that change, except that it might be worthwhile to announce policy changes in a separate thread. Good point. I'll do that in the future; please remind again if it doesn't happen. I'll try

Re: [Zope-dev] Visibility of policy changes: Was: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-18 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Theune wrote: On 09/18/2009 02:04 PM, Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 18 September 2009, Christian Theune wrote: I've also taken the liberty to update the ZTK policy to say that this should be done. (other steering group members can call me back if they don't like this policy

[Zope-dev] z3c.hashedresource and cache response headers

2009-09-18 Thread Jan-Wijbrand Kolman
Hi, We're trying to make an integration of z3c.hashedresource into Grok. While working on it we wondered how and where people using z3c.hashedresource set the caching headers for the resources referenced by the URLs generated by z3c.hashedresource. A few random thoughts about this: *

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.hashedresource and cache response headers

2009-09-18 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 18 September 2009, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote: While working on it we wondered how and where people using z3c.hashedresource set the caching headers for the resources referenced by the URLs generated by z3c.hashedresource. I think I solved that in z3c.versionedresource. Regards,

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.hashedresource and cache response headers

2009-09-18 Thread Jan-Wijbrand Kolman
Hi Stephan, Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 18 September 2009, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote: While working on it we wondered how and where people using z3c.hashedresource set the caching headers for the resources referenced by the URLs generated by z3c.hashedresource. I think I solved that

[Zope-dev] Proposal: Determining packages which are in the ZTK

2009-09-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is from a note I sent yesterday to the ZTK steering group (Martijn, Christian, Jim, Stephan), proposing criteria for removing packages from the ZTK. Martijn has already updated the docs to reflect some of the criteria: I figured I would throw

[Zope-dev] Proposal: rip twisted integration out of Zope2

2009-09-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Two modules do a really complicated and ugly conditional import dance to try and make twisted availabe as an alternative to ZServer. I propose we nuke that dance on the Zope trunk: at this point, we should prefer to do WSGI well, and leave

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Determining packages which are in the ZTK

2009-09-18 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 18, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is from a note I sent yesterday to the ZTK steering group (Martijn, Christian, Jim, Stephan), proposing criteria for removing packages from the ZTK. Martijn has already updated the

[Zope-dev] Proposal: Move Products.five.form out to a new package

2009-09-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Most of the remaining zope.app dependencies in the Zope2 trunk are related to Products.five.form. I propose moving all that code out to a new package, e.g. 'five.forms', which can be included by anybody who uses that code. Tres. - --

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Determining packages which are in the ZTK

2009-09-18 Thread Fred Drake
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: - - Any package which depends on a zope.* package which is *not* part  of the ZTK should itself be removed from the ZTK. +1 - - As a corollary, any package which depends on any other probationary  package is

[Zope-dev] Proposal: quit importing zope.app.schema.vocabulare in Products.Five

2009-09-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yuppie: I don't know what the purpose of the following checkin was: http://svn.zope.org/Zope/trunk/?rev=85827view=rev but the tests all pass if I rip out the import, and Zope starts. I don't know what code in Zope2 expects the

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: rip twisted integration out of Zope2

2009-09-18 Thread Andreas Jung
On 18.09.09 17:56, Tres Seaver wrote: Two modules do a really complicated and ugly conditional import dance to try and make twisted availabe as an alternative to ZServer. Can you explain a bit more? I propose we nuke that dance on the Zope trunk: at this point, we should prefer to do WSGI

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: rip twisted integration out of Zope2

2009-09-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: On 18.09.09 17:56, Tres Seaver wrote: Two modules do a really complicated and ugly conditional import dance to try and make twisted availabe as an alternative to ZServer. Can you explain a bit more? I propose we nuke that

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: rip twisted integration out of Zope2

2009-09-18 Thread Andreas Jung
On 18.09.09 18:18, Tres Seaver wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: On 18.09.09 17:56, Tres Seaver wrote: Two modules do a really complicated and ugly conditional import dance to try and make twisted availabe as an alternative to ZServer. Can you explain a bit more? I propose we nuke that

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Determining packages which are in the ZTK

2009-09-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Poster wrote: Sounds interesting. Do you happen to have a list of packages that would be affected by these rules? Sure: all the zope.app packages. They have effectively been in probationary status for a while now; I'm proposing to

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: rip twisted integration out of Zope2

2009-09-18 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: IIRC, the twisted integration code was added because Jim wanted us to get out of the server business.  At this point, I think that folks wanting an alternative to ZServer should focus on using WSGI to integrate with the

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Move Products.five.form out to a new package

2009-09-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Most of the remaining zope.app dependencies in the Zope2 trunk are related to Products.five.form.  I propose moving all that code out to a new package, e.g. 'five.forms', which can be included by anybody who uses that

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.hashedresource and cache response headers

2009-09-18 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 18 September 2009, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote: Would it be a good idea to remove setting the cache headers from the zope.app.publisher.browser resource implementations and make that more pluggable? z3c.versionedresource could then probably get rid of the resource subclasses, right?

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Determining packages which are in the ZTK

2009-09-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Sure:  all the zope.app packages.  They have effectively been in probationary status for a while now;  I'm proposing to remove them completely from the ZTK. I'd like to leave any zope.app.* package in the under-review

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: rip twisted integration out of Zope2

2009-09-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: On 18.09.09 18:18, Tres Seaver wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: On 18.09.09 17:56, Tres Seaver wrote: Two modules do a really complicated and ugly conditional import dance to try and make twisted availabe as an alternative to

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: quit importing zope.app.schema.vocabulare in Products.Five

2009-09-18 Thread yuppie
Hi Tres! Tres Seaver wrote: I don't know what the purpose of the following checkin was: http://svn.zope.org/Zope/trunk/?rev=85827view=rev See https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2008-April/031691.html but the tests all pass if I rip out the import, and Zope starts. I don't know

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: quit importing zope.app.schema.vocabulare in Products.Five

2009-09-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 yuppie wrote: Hi Tres! Tres Seaver wrote: I don't know what the purpose of the following checkin was: http://svn.zope.org/Zope/trunk/?rev=85827view=rev See https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2008-April/031691.html but the tests

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: Zope/trunk/ Cloned ``ZopeVocabularyRegistry`` from ``zope.app.schema``.

2009-09-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hanno Schlichting wrote: Wouldn't it make sense to move the VocabularyRegistry class into zope.schema instead of forking it? Nope -- the implementation uses zope.component, which would create a cycle. The fork is really fine here: it is truly

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: quit importing zope.app.schema.vocabulare in Products.Five

2009-09-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tres Seaver wrote: yuppie wrote: Hi Tres! Tres Seaver wrote: I don't know what the purpose of the following checkin was: http://svn.zope.org/Zope/trunk/?rev=85827view=rev See https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2008-April/031691.html