[Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Tobias Helfrich
Hi, this is my first posting on the list, so please be kind if i make some mistakes ;-) On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Leonardo Rochael Almeida leorochael at gmail.com wrote: I noticed you've been very busy doing clean-up on the Zope2 code base in the last few hours. As someone who

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Tobias Helfrich helfr...@know-it.net wrote: OK, so you do think that we might use Zope 2.12 for a quite long time without thinking about anymore updates? Will there be any security updates for Zope 2.12 in the future? You want to use Zope 2.13. 2.12 is at the

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Sylvain Viollon sylv...@infrae.com wrote:  ... and I still do use the VirtualHostMonster  (you can trash all the other things).  I agree that its code might not been the best in the world, but it  works for the moment and does what it says (I would love to see

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 5 July 2011 09:42, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: What you are describing is exactly what I meant by old legacy Zope2 applications. You should be able to use this style of development with Zope 2.13. But you won't be able to upgrade to newer versions of Zope 2 anymore and

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: I would've thought it would also be possible for those who rely on this to maintain the relevant eggs as optional installations against Zope 2.x, no? The ZMI is not a package - we don't have a split into zope and

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 5 July 2011 10:18, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: I would've thought it would also be possible for those who rely on this to maintain the relevant eggs as optional installations against Zope 2.x,

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:19 PM, yuppie y.2...@wcm-solutions.de wrote: Long-term maintenance for Zope 2.13 would give these projects/deployments at least a few more years. Yes. I'm willing to cut releases for it for quite a while. I just expect to see active maintenance from the Plone community

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 5 July 2011 10:31, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:19 PM, yuppie y.2...@wcm-solutions.de wrote: Long-term maintenance for Zope 2.13 would give these projects/deployments at least a few more years. Yes. I'm willing to cut releases for it for quite a

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 July 2011 10:31, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: So we just got ourselves a Zope2 version 3.0. And no, naming it 4.0 or 5.0 or anything else doesn't make it any better at all. So 3.0 is the most

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 7/5/11 11:56 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 5 July 2011 10:31, Hanno Schlichtingha...@hannosch.eu wrote: So we just got ourselves a Zope2 version 3.0. And no, naming it 4.0 or 5.0 or anything else doesn't make it any better at all. So 3.0 is the most sensible one :) Boy, that's going to be

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
On 5 July 2011 11:10, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: On 7/5/11 11:56 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 5 July 2011 10:31, Hanno Schlichtingha...@hannosch.eu wrote: So we just got ourselves a Zope2 version 3.0. And no, naming it 4.0 or 5.0 or anything else doesn't make it any better at

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Jonas Meurer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 05.07.2011 12:04, schrieb Hanno Schlichting: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 July 2011 10:31, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: So we just got ourselves a Zope2 version 3.0. And no,

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Tobias Helfrich
Hi Hanno On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Tobias Helfrich helfr...@know-it.net wrote: OK, so you do think that we might use Zope 2.12 for a quite long time without thinking about anymore updates? Will there be any security updates for Zope 2.12 in the future? You want to use

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Jonas Meurer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 05.07.2011 11:30, schrieb Martin Aspeli: On 5 July 2011 10:18, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu mailto:ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Laurence Rowe
On 5 July 2011 11:22, Jonas Meurer jo...@freesources.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 05.07.2011 12:04, schrieb Hanno Schlichting: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 July 2011 10:31, Hanno Schlichting

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi, On 5 July 2011 11:26, Tobias Helfrich helfr...@know-it.net wrote: Hi Hanno On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Tobias Helfrich helfr...@know-it.net wrote: OK, so you do think that we might use Zope 2.12 for a quite long time without thinking about anymore updates? Will there be

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: On 7/5/11 11:56 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 5 July 2011 10:31, Hanno Schlichtingha...@hannosch.eu  wrote: I'd actually favour calling it Zope2 4.0 just to avoid any mix-up with the defunct Zope 3, although I don't think

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 7/5/11 14:41 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jens Vagelpohlj...@dataflake.org wrote: On 7/5/11 11:56 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 5 July 2011 10:31, Hanno Schlichtingha...@hannosch.euwrote: I'd actually favour calling it Zope2 4.0 just to avoid any mix-up with

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 05.07.2011, 14:44 Uhr, schrieb Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org: zopefour as a domain isn't very helpful. It would add yet another top-level name to the existing list (Zope 2, Zope 3). In the best of all possible worlds the package now known as Zope2 would simply be Zope, and its website

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: zopefour as a domain isn't very helpful. It would add yet another top-level name to the existing list (Zope 2, Zope 3). That was an April fools joke I was referring to. I didn't mean to suggest to actually use that in any

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 14:41, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Ok, seems 4.0 is the more popular choice. I don't agree. Let's go with Fibonacci and call the next release Zope 8, as the logical extension of the series 1, 2, 3, and 5! :-P -- Martijn Pieters

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Andreas Jung
Martijn Pieters wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 14:41, Hanno Schlichtingha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Ok, seems 4.0 is the more popular choice. I don't agree. Let's go with Fibonacci and call the next release Zope 8, as the logical extension of the series 1, 2, 3, and 5! How about ZopeNG?

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Christopher Lozinski
On 7/5/11 3:22 AM, zope-dev-requ...@zope.org wrote: Hanno writes: Someone might try, but I think it's not a wise decision to spent any resources that way. I am trying. I am trying to create a Zope 2 like TTW development environment on top of BlueBream. I have a small email list of people

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida
Hi Hanno, On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:18, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: I would've thought it would also be possible for those who rely on this to maintain the relevant eggs as optional installations

[Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 9, OK: 79

2011-07-05 Thread Zope tests summarizer
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