Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi Alex, Please revert this checkin. You can't just take core software pieces from Zope Foundation-hosted repositories and move them somewhere else. Thanks! jens On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:09 , J. Alexander Clark cvs-ad...@zope.org wrote: Log message for revision 127519: Moved to github

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Please note that development of buildout 2 happens on github since April this year. The buildout developers decided to do the move after Jim suggested it. Legally you could see this move as a fork, but it was done by Jim and others. Alex just wanted to clarify the situation and also move the

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi Hanno, Legally this must be a fork then and I'm not sure it can be released as official Zope Foundation software anymore if you make releases from GitHub. Reason: the ZF can no longer ascertain that only official ZF contributor agreement signers have modified code in the package, which is a

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2012-8-18 10:39, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Hi Hanno, Legally this must be a fork then and I'm not sure it can be released as official Zope Foundation software anymore if you make releases from GitHub. Doesn't the name zc.buildout imply that it is a Zope Corp project instead of a Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Fred Drake
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: Doesn't the name zc.buildout imply that it is a Zope Corp project instead of a Zope Foundation one? The author has also never been listed as the foundation but Jim personally, which seems to imply zc.buildout never was

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jean-Paul Smets
Hi, I approve your position Jens. Moving to git can make sense. Moving to github as primary platform does not make sense. Github is a proprietary platform. There is really no justification in using a proprietary platform for open source projects, especially considering that many open

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Chris Withers
Hi Jens, On 18/08/2012 09:39, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Legally this must be a fork then and I'm not sure it can be released as official Zope Foundation software anymore if you make releases from GitHub. Reason: the ZF can no longer ascertain that only official ZF contributor agreement signers

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Chris Withers
I'm not going to dignify this with a fuller response other than to say that Jean-Paul Smets' entire email is nothing but bullshit written to try and promote an inferior competing product ;-) Chris On 18/08/2012 13:31, Jean-Paul Smets wrote: Hi, I approve your position Jens. Moving to git

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 18.08.2012, 15:35 Uhr, schrieb Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk: I'm not going to dignify this with a fuller response other than to say that Jean-Paul Smets' entire email is nothing but bullshit written to try and promote an inferior competing product. The issues of hosting and vcs

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: Legally this must be a fork then and I'm not sure it can be released as official Zope Foundation software anymore if you make releases from GitHub. Reason: the ZF can no longer ascertain that only official ZF

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:46 , Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 2012-8-18 10:39, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Hi Hanno, Legally this must be a fork then and I'm not sure it can be released as official Zope Foundation software anymore if you make releases from GitHub. Doesn't the name

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 18, 2012, at 14:31 , Jean-Paul Smets j...@nexedi.com wrote: Hi, I approve your position Jens. Moving to git can make sense. Moving to github as primary platform does not make sense. Hi Jean-Paul, Technical pros and cons are valid arguments, correct, but that wasn't my point

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 18, 2012, at 15:46 , Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: Legally this must be a fork then and I'm not sure it can be released as official Zope Foundation software anymore if you make releases from GitHub.

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/2012 03:46 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: The contributor agreement requires you as the contributor to be able to enter into the contract with the Zope Foundation

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/2012 03:18 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: But removing stuff from svn.zope.org requires approval from you as the original owner *and* the ZF as legal co-owner of anything stored on svn.zope.org. Actually, it requires the permission of the ZF.

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Alex Clark
Hi Jens, On 2012-08-18 07:49:59 +, Jens Vagelpohl said: Hi Alex, Please revert this checkin. You can't just take core software pieces from Zope Foundation-hosted repositories and move them somewhere else. Thanks! I think you are confused. I would suggest you ask Jim Fulton about

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Alex Clark
Hi On 2012-08-18 22:01:51 +, Alex Clark said: Hi Jens, On 2012-08-18 07:49:59 +, Jens Vagelpohl said: Hi Alex, Please revert this checkin. You can't just take core software pieces from Zope Foundation-hosted repositories and move them somewhere else. Thanks! I think you are

[Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 114, OK: 15

2012-08-18 Thread Zope tests summarizer
This is the summary for test reports received on the zope-tests list between 2012-08-17 00:00:00 UTC and 2012-08-18 00:00:00 UTC: See the footnotes for test reports of unsuccessful builds. An up-to date view of the builders is also available in our buildbot documentation:

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Because the ability to check into svn.zope.org is based on a chain of custody managed by the ZF (web account, verified e-mail address, and SSH key). J. Random Hacker's account on Github has no such chain. Sure, but

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Alex Clark
Hi, On 2012-08-19 01:24:31 +, Lennart Regebro said: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Because the ability to check into svn.zope.org is based on a chain of custody managed by the ZF (web account, verified e-mail address, and SSH key). J. Random