Re: [Zope-dev] How to signal that projects have moved to github

2013-01-11 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 05:37:09PM -0500, Tres Seaver wrote:
 On 01/10/2013 03:16 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 09:15:21AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote:
 
  An argument against cleaning out trunk will break CI tools.  This is
  also an argument *for* cleaning out trunk. :)
  
  Thoughts?
  
  +1
 
 Feeling ambiguoous today, or maybe not?

Eh.  :-)

An explicit +1 for svn rm .../trunk/*; svn add .../trunk/MOVED_TO_GITHUB.txt

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Re: [Zope-dev] How to signal that projects have moved to github

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Withers

On 10/01/2013 20:48, Jim Fulton wrote:

It isn't just CI:  people may have projects running from SVN checkouts,
which we break without warning (the Plone devs have been notorious for
causing such breakage for years).


I still think breakage is better.  If they're using trunk, without
pinning a revision, it must be because they want the latest code.
They won't get that from svn.  This is a case where I think it's
better to fail in an obvious way.


Yeah, +1 from me here. If people think they're using trunk, and they're 
not 'cos its moved to GitHub, that's bad.


FWIW, you may not know that GitHub really does have an svn interface to 
git repositories on GitHub. They unfortunately announced this on April 1 
one year, so I think most people (myself included, until I actually 
started using it) assume it's a joke.


So, it really is a case of CI tools changing their subversion url, and 
others doing a svn switch --relocate.


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[Zope-dev] Status of the buildout organization on github and a deleted branch

2013-01-11 Thread Patrick Gerken
Hi,

I thought I have was part of the buildout organization, but I am not now. I
noticed because I wanted to recreate a branch that went missing.

Could I either get commit access or could somebody recreate the 1.6.x
branch. There is a buildout extension that breaks because of the missing
branch.

There seems to be no way to identify where exactly the branch was deleted,
but the last mention of the branch is
ef8c5e2a0d689e88e2a038f8346259e631956a1f

Committed by Adam. I don't know if that was a merge that removed the branch
or not, but as a starting point for a resurrected 1.6.x branch it seems bo
ge good enough

Best regards,

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Re: [Zope-dev] Status of the buildout organization on github and a deleted branch

2013-01-11 Thread Hanno Schlichting
The buildout 1.6.x branch was renamed to 1. Jim discussed and announced
that on the buildout-development list.

Please follow-up on that list for buildout issues.

Hanno


On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Patrick Gerken do3cc...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I thought I have was part of the buildout organization, but I am not now.
 I noticed because I wanted to recreate a branch that went missing.

 Could I either get commit access or could somebody recreate the 1.6.x
 branch. There is a buildout extension that breaks because of the missing
 branch.

 There seems to be no way to identify where exactly the branch was deleted,
 but the last mention of the branch is
 ef8c5e2a0d689e88e2a038f8346259e631956a1f

 Committed by Adam. I don't know if that was a merge that removed the
 branch or not, but as a starting point for a resurrected 1.6.x branch it
 seems bo ge good enough

 Best regards,

Patrick

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[Zope-dev] Changing id generation in OFS CopyContainer

2013-01-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I want to use INameChooser to select the id of copied content. This is 
currently not possible since manage_pasteObject does not pass the object to be 
pasted to _get_id. I added a new wichert-ofs-paste-naming branch to extend 
_get_id to make that possible. Are there any objections to merging that change 
to 2.13 and trunk?

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[Zope-dev] Zope2 git mirror not updating?

2013-01-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I noticed that the Zope2 git mirror does not appear to be updating. Looking at 
https://github.com/zopefoundation/Zope/commits/2.13 it doesn't have any commits 
after November 15, while subversion has more recent commits from Hanno and 
Maurits. Did an updating process break? Or did development switch to github but 
the subversion repository was not made readonly?

Wichert.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 git mirror not updating?

2013-01-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

On Jan 11, 2013, at 14:07 , Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote:

 I noticed that the Zope2 git mirror does not appear to be updating. Looking 
 at https://github.com/zopefoundation/Zope/commits/2.13 it doesn't have any 
 commits after November 15, while subversion has more recent commits from 
 Hanno and Maurits. Did an updating process break? Or did development switch 
 to github but the subversion repository was not made readonly?

I had already mentioned in a different thread that the Zope and all Products.* 
packages you see on GitHub are not final migrations, just test migrations. 
Until a package is clearly marked as migrated in SVN (such as all packages Jim 
and Tres migrated) the migration is not final and all changes should still be 
checked into svn.zope.org.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 git mirror not updating?

2013-01-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman

On Jan 11, 2013, at 14:10 , Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote:

 
 On Jan 11, 2013, at 14:07 , Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote:
 
 I noticed that the Zope2 git mirror does not appear to be updating. Looking 
 at https://github.com/zopefoundation/Zope/commits/2.13 it doesn't have any 
 commits after November 15, while subversion has more recent commits from 
 Hanno and Maurits. Did an updating process break? Or did development switch 
 to github but the subversion repository was not made readonly?
 
 I had already mentioned in a different thread that the Zope and all 
 Products.* packages you see on GitHub are not final migrations, just test 
 migrations. Until a package is clearly marked as migrated in SVN (such as all 
 packages Jim and Tres migrated) the migration is not final and all changes 
 should still be checked into svn.zope.org.

Ok, noted. Perhaps it would make sense to not give write access on github for 
repositories that are not officially migrated to prevent confusion? I'm afraid 
I committed something on both github and svn.zope.org now since I initially 
thought github was the thing to use.

Wichert.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Status of github migration

2013-01-11 Thread Tres Seaver
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On 01/10/2013 06:10 PM, Matthew Wilkes wrote:

 Tres Seaver wrote:
 What is needed is not scripts, but eyeballs:  we need people who
 know the various packages and*care*  about getting them migrated to
 github to step up.  Softwward which doesn't have a champion willing
 to do the work should stay behind on SVN.
 
 The community as a whole cares about having them all migrated to
 github. I'm sure this will happen the next time there's a sprint, just
 like lots of them got migrated (and subsequently deleted) at the zope4
 sprint in San Francisco a few years back.

The communite as-a-whole demonstrably does *not* care about many of the
projects on svn.zope.org.  E.g.:

 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/070977.html

 We need man-hours, sure, but not champions. Being blocked on working
 on the code because you're the first one to care about a package and 
 subsequently have to learn how to do the migration is a crazy way of 
 doing things.

The foundation agreed to support moving projects to github, but that
isn't a blank check.  For instance, if there is substantial interest in
having the projects pulled in by the current Plone buildout moved, make a
list of them, and recruit the folks to step up and help with the
migration for them.  The effort requires includes doing the conversion,
checking the results *by hand*, landing the repository, and fixing
anything that breaks once you do (including stuff that breaks in projects
you otherwise don't care about).

Any project that can't find somebody willing to do that work (that is
what I meant by a champion) is better off staying on SVN:  we don't do
ourselves favors by carrying all the unmaintained baggage of fifteen
years worth of development forward, just for purity / completeness /
whatever.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Changing id generation in OFS CopyContainer

2013-01-11 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi.

Sorry, but 2.13 is in bug-fix-only mode. At least as long as I have to do
the release management for it.

Trunk is fair game, or up to Leonardo really.

Hanno


On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote:

 I want to use INameChooser to select the id of copied content. This is
 currently not possible since manage_pasteObject does not pass the object to
 be pasted to _get_id. I added a new wichert-ofs-paste-naming branch to
 extend _get_id to make that possible. Are there any objections to merging
 that change to 2.13 and trunk?

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Re: [Zope-dev] Status of github migration

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
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 On 01/10/2013 06:10 PM, Matthew Wilkes wrote:

 Tres Seaver wrote:
 What is needed is not scripts, but eyeballs:  we need people who
 know the various packages and*care*  about getting them migrated to
 github to step up.  Softwward which doesn't have a champion willing
 to do the work should stay behind on SVN.

 The community as a whole cares about having them all migrated to
 github. I'm sure this will happen the next time there's a sprint, just
 like lots of them got migrated (and subsequently deleted) at the zope4
 sprint in San Francisco a few years back.

 The communite as-a-whole demonstrably does *not* care about many of the
 projects on svn.zope.org.  E.g.:

  https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/070977.html

 We need man-hours, sure, but not champions. Being blocked on working
 on the code because you're the first one to care about a package and
 subsequently have to learn how to do the migration is a crazy way of
 doing things.

 The foundation agreed to support moving projects to github, but that
 isn't a blank check.  For instance, if there is substantial interest in
 having the projects pulled in by the current Plone buildout moved, make a
 list of them, and recruit the folks to step up and help with the
 migration for them.  The effort requires includes doing the conversion,
 checking the results *by hand*, landing the repository, and fixing
 anything that breaks once you do (including stuff that breaks in projects
 you otherwise don't care about).

 Any project that can't find somebody willing to do that work (that is
 what I meant by a champion) is better off staying on SVN:  we don't do
 ourselves favors by carrying all the unmaintained baggage of fifteen
 years worth of development forward, just for purity / completeness /
 whatever.

+1

BTW (speaking of cruft), as someone who used/abused svn.zope.org as a
generic open-source hosting service (when I should have used something
like code.google.com, or bitbucket, or whatever), I wonder if there
should be a process for petitioning to remove projects from the ZF
repositories. (Maybe this only applies to me :)

Jim

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[Zope-dev] Building/Testing persistent package with tox

2013-01-11 Thread Stephan Richter
Hi guys,

I have just tried to build/test persistent with tox and it fails with the 
following error message::

IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-u7jE1n-
build/CHANGES.txt'
Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
Traceback (most recent call last):

  File string, line 16, in module

  File /tmp/pip-u7jE1n-build/setup.py, line 29, in module

open(os.path.join(here, 'CHANGES.txt')).read())

IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-u7jE1n-
build/CHANGES.txt

This is indeed correct, since the ZIP package archive created by tox in 
./.tox/dist does not include any txt files.

I use the following command to run tox:

$ tox -e py27,py32

How do others run tox?

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Re: [Zope-dev] Building/Testing persistent package with tox

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Stephan Richter
stephan.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I have just tried to build/test persistent with tox and it fails with the
 following error message::

 IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-u7jE1n-
 build/CHANGES.txt'
 Complete output from command python setup.py egg_info:
 Traceback (most recent call last):

   File string, line 16, in module

   File /tmp/pip-u7jE1n-build/setup.py, line 29, in module

 open(os.path.join(here, 'CHANGES.txt')).read())

 IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-u7jE1n-
 build/CHANGES.txt

 This is indeed correct, since the ZIP package archive created by tox in
 ./.tox/dist does not include any txt files.

 I use the following command to run tox:

 $ tox -e py27,py32

 How do others run tox?

The project needs to be updated with a manifest that causes .txt files
to be included in builds. (Look at zc.buildout for an example.) I
planned to do this, but hadn't gotten to it yet.  I can probably do
that this weekend.

This is needed because persistent has moved to git and
setuptools/distribute, **thankfully**, don't support git without a
plugin. **Please**, no one fix this by adding the plugin, at least not
for any projects I'm heavily involved it. I far prefer the explicit
approach afforded by a lack of VCS integration.

IMO, avoiding the setuptools/distribute VCS magic is a major
advantage of moving to git. :)

Jim

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Re: [Zope-dev] Building/Testing persistent package with tox

2013-01-11 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday, January 11, 2013 11:00:47 AM Jim Fulton wrote:
 The project needs to be updated with a manifest that causes .txt files
 to be included in builds. (Look at zc.buildout for an example.) I
 planned to do this, but hadn't gotten to it yet.  I can probably do
 that this weekend.

Okay, that makes sense. I was wondering about the manifest already, but I was 
not sure whether another mechanism was involved.

BTW, the current bootstrap.py file does not work with Python 3. Are we not 
going to support buildout with Python 3 or what's the goal/story here?

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Re: [Zope-dev] Becoming a zopefoundation member on GitHub

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stephan Richter
stephan.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 what are the necessary steps to become a Zope Foundation organization member
 on GitHub? I would like to try moving a small product there to test the
 migration.

You should have gotten an email from me a a few weeks ago requesting
your github email. (It turns out I needed your id too.)  Perhaps we
didn't have an up-to-date email address for you in our database, or
maybe it got files as spam. :)

Please send me (privately) your github email and id.

If any other contributors didn't get an email from me and want write
access to the github repositories, please send me your github id and
email.

WRT moving or creating repositories, an unfortunate miss-feature of
github is that developers with push access can't also create
repositories.  (This is one of the reasons that ZC uses bitbucket.)
You'll have to ask someone (like me) to do that for you.  I don't
think we've formalized the process for this.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Building/Testing persistent package with tox

2013-01-11 Thread Tres Seaver
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On 01/11/2013 10:54 AM, Stephan Richter wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I have just tried to build/test persistent with tox and it fails with
 the following error message::
 
 IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-u7jE1n- 
 build/CHANGES.txt' Complete output from command python setup.py
 egg_info: Traceback (most recent call last):
 
 File string, line 16, in module
 
 File /tmp/pip-u7jE1n-build/setup.py, line 29, in module
 
 open(os.path.join(here, 'CHANGES.txt')).read())
 
 IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/pip-u7jE1n- 
 build/CHANGES.txt
 
 This is indeed correct, since the ZIP package archive created by tox
 in ./.tox/dist does not include any txt files.
 
 I use the following command to run tox:
 
 $ tox -e py27,py32
 
 How do others run tox?

Nice catch:  this is a side-effect of the move to Git.  I just run 'tox'
(all environments), but the Python's I use for tox all have
setuptools_git installed, so the CHANGES.txt gets included in the
temporary sdist.

I guess we can ass a MANIFEST.in, since you are certainly not going to be
the last person to trip over this issue.

/me tries using a Python without setuptools_git:  Hmm, the zipefile is
built correctly for me.  Odd.  The two tarballs are identical.




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Re: [Zope-dev] Building/Testing persistent package with tox

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Fulton
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Stephan Richter
stephan.rich...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 BTW, the current bootstrap.py file does not work with Python 3. Are we not
 going to support buildout with Python 3 or what's the goal/story here?

Buildout 2, which is still in alpha, but all I use works with Python 3.

Use: http://downloads.buildout.org/2/bootstrap.py

and don't forget to use -t, since buildout 2 isn't final.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Becoming a zopefoundation member on GitHub

2013-01-11 Thread Tres Seaver
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On 01/11/2013 11:11 AM, Jim Fulton wrote:

 WRT moving or creating repositories, an unfortunate miss-feature of 
 github is that developers with push access can't also create 
 repositories.  (This is one of the reasons that ZC uses bitbucket.) 
 You'll have to ask someone (like me) to do that for you.  I don't 
 think we've formalized the process for this.

The Foundation's repository committee is Jens plus the folks who have
been helping him maintain SVN (Andreas, Jim, ~me).  At this point, that
group is effectively the only set which can create repositories on Github
(the Owners group).

Tell one of that group that you want to migrate a project:  they will
create a new, empty repository for you and grant access.


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[Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 25, OK: 17

2013-01-11 Thread Zope tests summarizer
This is the summary for test reports received on the 
zope-tests list between 2013-01-10 00:00:00 UTC and 2013-01-11 00:00:00 UTC:

See the footnotes for test reports of unsuccessful builds.

An up-to date view of the builders is also available in our 
buildbot documentation: 
http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/buildbots.html#the-nightly-builds

Reports received


   Fixed - zopetoolkit_trunk - Build # 137
   Fixed - zopetoolkit_trunk_app - Build # 120
   Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
   Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
   Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.8 : Linux
   Zope-2.13 Python-2.6.8 : Linux
   Zope-2.13 Python-2.7.3 : Linux
   Zope-trunk Python-2.6.8 : Linux
   Zope-trunk Python-2.7.3 : Linux
[1]winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win32
[2]winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win64
[3]winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win32
[4]winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win64
[5]winbot / z3c.configurator_py_265_32
[6]winbot / z3c.contents_py_265_32
[7]winbot / z3c.ptcompat_py_265_32
[8]winbot / z3c.recipe.paster_py_265_32
[9]winbot / z3c.sampledata_py_265_32
[10]   winbot / zc.sourcefactory_py_265_32
[11]   winbot / zope.app.applicationcontrol_py_265_32
[12]   winbot / zope.app.authentication_py_265_32
[13]   winbot / zope.app.authentication_py_265_32
[14]   winbot / zope.app.component_py_265_32
[15]   winbot / zope.app.container_py_265_32
[16]   winbot / zope.app.exception_py_265_32
[17]   winbot / zope.app.generations_py_265_32
[18]   winbot / zope.app.publisher_py_265_32
[19]   winbot / zope.app.publisher_py_265_32
[20]   winbot / zope.app.rotterdam_py_265_32
[21]   winbot / zope.app.security_py_265_32
[22]   winbot / zope.app.session_py_265_32
[23]   winbot / zope.app.session_py_265_32
[24]   winbot / zope.app.testing_py_265_32
[25]   winbot / zope.app.zcmlfiles_py_265_32
   winbot / ztk_10 py_254_win32
   winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win32
   winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win64
   winbot / ztk_11 py_254_win32
   winbot / ztk_11 py_265_win32
   winbot / ztk_11 py_265_win64
   winbot / ztk_11 py_270_win32
   winbot / ztk_11 py_270_win64

Non-OK results
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[1]FAILED  winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071327.html


[2]FAILED  winbot / ZODB_dev py_265_win64
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071328.html


[3]FAILED  winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071329.html


[4]FAILED  winbot / ZODB_dev py_270_win64
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071330.html


[5]FAILED  winbot / z3c.configurator_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071307.html


[6]FAILED  winbot / z3c.contents_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071332.html


[7]FAILED  winbot / z3c.ptcompat_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071304.html


[8]FAILED  winbot / z3c.recipe.paster_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071333.html


[9]FAILED  winbot / z3c.sampledata_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071334.html


[10]   FAILED  winbot / zc.sourcefactory_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071306.html


[11]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.applicationcontrol_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071305.html


[12]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.authentication_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071340.html


[13]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.authentication_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071301.html


[14]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.component_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071309.html


[15]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.container_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071338.html


[16]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.exception_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071337.html


[17]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.generations_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071302.html


[18]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.publisher_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071331.html


[19]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.publisher_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071299.html


[20]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.rotterdam_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071308.html


[21]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.security_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071303.html


[22]   FAILED  winbot / zope.app.session_py_265_32
   https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-January/071339.html


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