Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-03-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Agenda --  - Can we ensure building Windows binaries? We talked about the status of this a bit. I just finished checking the list of packages with C extensions as listed at

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component.zcml and global registry

2010-03-08 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Roger d...@projekt01.ch wrote: Another point, reloading ZCML actions after a system startup e.g. from the UI is probably not possible anymore. Then we whould have to call setSite(None) and this, on a running system, whould force to loose the local components

Re: [Zope-dev] Another buildbot with the package trunks of the ZTK

2010-03-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: I'm not sure that testing ZTK against the package trunks is quite the right thing:  we have to be free to make changes to trunks while leaving the ZTK known good on older, stable versions:  otherwise we might as well[ be

Re: [Zope-dev] Uses of the ZTK and how it relates to management

2010-03-04 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: A thought that came up when reading this paragraph: another option restructuring/grouping to reduce the amount of packages may be to join smaller packages with weird boundaries into larger ones again. (Not that I suggest

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.component.zcml and global registry

2010-03-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Roger d...@projekt01.ch wrote: I like to use getGlobalSiteManager by default because this doesn't force a database access and load the local site manager if the site is a local site. The database access only happens if a local site is set into the corresponding

Re: [Zope-dev] exception views lost context on Zope 2.12

2010-02-23 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: In Zope 2.10 exception views were acquisition-wrapped in the publisher context. In Zope 2.10, exception views didn't exist in Zope2. They were only introduced in Zope 2.11. This appears to have changed in Zope 2.12:

Re: [Zope-dev] Buildout reporting 'Temporary failure in name resolution' - any clue why?

2010-02-20 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Hermann Himmelbauer du...@qwer.tk wrote: The problem seems to be somewhere in between SQLAlchemy and pysqlite (both install, however). It seems it works anyway. But these errors consume quite some time (around 10 minutes), any idea what to do? The problem is

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12 and Globals.DevelopmentMode

2010-02-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Sylvain Viollon sylv...@infrae.com wrote:   Maybe I missed something, but it seems to me that   Globals.DevelopmentMode in Zope 2.12 is always False, even if you   start Zope in fg, or set debug-mode to on in the configuration file. This works for me and

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 ZMI and HTML5

2010-02-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Tom Gross itconse...@gmail.com wrote:  with HTML5 the frame-elements will die. It will probably take some years before the browser-support of HTML4 will stop, but still. Are there any alternative implementations for the Zope2-ZMI? I'd very much expect the

Re: [Zope-dev] Fwd: [Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/ - using a local copy of bootstrap.py

2010-02-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Attila Oláh attilao...@gmail.com wrote: I've just found this old checkin: http://www.mail-archive.com/zope-check...@zope.org/msg04196.html . Can someone please explain me very briefly (or point out some documentation), why is it better to store a copy of

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: BFG uses the ZCA for some implementation details, I'm not sure if that is the same as 'builds on the ZCA'. I don't think you can use the ZTK with BFG - the vast majority of ZTK packages are too tied to concepts that do

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.authentication

2010-01-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Souheil CHELFOUH troll...@gmail.com wrote: I'm coding some stuff, using zope.app.authentication and this package appears to do too many things, in my opinion. Would it be wise to cut off some of the functionalities ? The pure PAU components could go in a

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: I also don't know of any applications running on the other frameworks, which is why it's so empty there. SchoolTool and Launchpad have been mentioned as Zope3 applications in the past. Karl would be an example for BFG.

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: Is Launchpad available as an application you can install and run? For some definition of that, yes: https://dev.launchpad.net/ Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-21 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: So it seems like a good idea to explicitly distinguish the set of packages that BFG uses from the ZTK by giving the bicycle repair toolkit a name and saying that the ZTK depends on that, if only to give another target

Re: [Zope-dev] Where is the position of BlueBream in Zope ecosystem ?

2010-01-20 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote:         I would like to get your opinion about this position statement, as it involve the wider Zope ecosystem.  However, we tried to be diplomatic about other project's relationship with ZTK as we don't want to claim anything

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing coverage support

2010-01-17 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: A couple of questions about zope.testing's --coverage option: I think the standard option is to use something like this buildout snippet: [coverage-test] recipe = zc.recipe.testrunner eggs = ${buildout:eggs}

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope2 releases available

2010-01-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 13.01.2010, 16:58 Uhr, schrieb Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu: Installing Visual Studio Express makes this a whole lot easier. I can provide py2.6-win32 eggs for the following: Most of

Re: [Zope-dev] New Zope2 releases available

2010-01-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: Am 14.01.2010, 17:12 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu: Why are you trying to use that version? Zope 2.12.3 includes zope.container 3.8.2 as defined at http://download.zope.org/Zope2/index

Re: [Zope-dev] vocabularies missing wihtout zope.app.schema

2010-01-11 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Roger d...@projekt01.ch wrote: Which concept should the ZTK use? The plain vocabulary from zope.schema.vocabulary or the enhanced component lookupbased concept defined in zope.app.schema.vocabulary? Any idea how zope.componentvocabulary fits into this? Hanno

Re: [Zope-dev] vocabularies missing wihtout zope.app.schema

2010-01-11 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Roger d...@projekt01.ch wrote: The zope.componentvocabulary package defines some basic vocabulary (factory) classes. Probably we should move the zope/app/schema/vocabulary.py to this package as registry.py. If it doesn't introduce new dependencies, that sounds

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.contenttype on PyPI is messed up

2009-12-31 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Fabio Tranchitella kob...@kobold.it wrote: Can somebody please fix zope.contettype on PyPI? We had a 3.5.0 release, and somebody uploaded a 3.4.3 release which should have been 3.5.1. What makes you think it should have been 3.5.1? The changelog says: Updated

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.contenttype on PyPI is messed up

2009-12-31 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Fabio Tranchitella fa...@tranchitella.eu wrote: ... things changed now: both 3.4.3 and 3.5.0 are visible; this morning when I checked, only 3.4.3 was visible, and thus my buildbot warned me that some dependencies in the ZTK were unsatisfied (and buildout tried

Re: [Zope-dev] [ZODB-Dev] Splitting a large ZODB file storage - any light-weight approach?

2009-12-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: Delete operations will trigger events modifying other global metadata related to the those objects. So this approach requires modification to the application in order to avoid such side effects. But if you do it from a

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing.doctestunit pprint and deprecation warnings

2009-12-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: zope.testing.doctestunit emits a deprecation warning. It also defines a function pprint. How does one use pprint without getting a deprecation warning? It seems impossible now, and an equivalent pprint doesn't

Re: [Zope-dev] Top-level namespace package for Zope 2 ?

2009-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote:    I was going through Zope 2 source code today. There are 20+ top-level packages specific to Zope 2.  Would it be useful if we move those packages to a top-level namespace package.  I mean something similar to: zope.app.*,

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.2 SyntaxError on installation

2009-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
2009/12/29 Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as: I get the following error:    File build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/Zope2/utilities/load_site.py, line 248      body = (htmlheadtitledtml-var title_or_id/title                                                               ^  SyntaxError: EOL while

Re: [Zope-dev] Documentation on the Zope 2 release process

2009-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: I started documenting the Zope 2 release process (Zope 2.12 only for now): svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope2docs/trunk/maintenance/index.rst Hints and feedback appreciated. Cool. Looks quite good already. You could

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.2 SyntaxError on installation

2009-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 03:59:07PM +, Chris Withers wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: It'd be even better if there was a command I could run to generate an up-to-date default zope.conf, like mkzopeinstance does.  Is there

Re: [Zope-dev] removing zope.app from the ZTK

2009-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: And let's please not turn this around: I'm not putting anything *in*. Something was *removed*. Let's remove it responsibly. Not just disclaim responsibility and drop it all. So far I defined the ZTK based on what we

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.2 SyntaxError on installation

2009-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: Ah, but then why The Official Zope 2.12 Installation Guide at http://docs.zope.org/zope2/releases/2.12/INSTALL.html#buildout-instances doesn't even mention plone.recipe.zope2instance? Should it?  The namespace of the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.2 SyntaxError on installation

2009-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: What do y'all Zope-2-maintainer-people think about this patch? [...] Looks good. I'll take that as a +0. Please do. Thanks, Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] removing zope.app from the ZTK

2009-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: I think a zopeapp KGS that will help them transition existing code from Zope 2.12 to Zope 2.13 in working condition would be helpful to Zope 2 users. Not really. Zope 2.12 is exactly that transitionary release

Re: [Zope-dev] removing zope.app from the ZTK

2009-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Not really. Zope 2.12 is exactly that transitionary release defining a KGS for everything that was included in Zope 2.11 (~3.4.1). Ah, I didn't realize Zope 2.12 was already based

Re: [Zope-dev] removing zope.app from the ZTK

2009-12-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Assuming ZTK x.y won't have zope.app packages, this means that those upgrading to Zope 2.13 might be helped by a list of working versions of those zope.app.* packages (such as the one in zopeapp), or am I wrong? Of

Re: [Zope-dev] PyPI access for zope.contenttype

2009-12-28 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Fred Drake fdr...@acm.org wrote: Can someone set me up with PyPI privs for zope.contenttype? Sure, you got it :) Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - packages with zope.app dependencies

2009-12-28 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: The ZTK no longer contains any zope.app packages. I think we should be careful to just remove the zope.app packages from the ZTK entirely. I.e. we should maintain the versions

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - packages with zope.app dependencies

2009-12-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Shane Hathaway sh...@hathawaymix.org wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: It has a dependency on zope.app.publication. Given the central role of zope.traversing I allowed it and zope.app.publication to stay in the ZTK, but moved it to the under-review option

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - packages with zope.app dependencies

2009-12-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: It sounds like it'd be possible to fix these test dependencies in a different way. I agree that the ideal solution is to have a zope.intid with more sane test dependencies. I'm not sure pre-emptive ejection from the

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: Zope/trunk/ Moved zope.formlib / zope.app.form integration into a separate package called five.formlib.

2009-12-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Log message for revision 107134:   Moved zope.formlib / zope.app.form integration into a separate package called five.formlib. YAY!  You rock, Hanno. Thanks, we all did our part to get Zope2

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - packages with zope.app dependencies

2009-12-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Roger d...@projekt01.ch wrote: Just assinged Owner roles for fafhrd and hannosch to zope.initid, zope.catalog and zope.app.testing Thanks! I made new releases of both of them and put them back into the ZTK. Hanno

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: Zope/trunk/ Moved zope.formlib / zope.app.form integration into a separate package called five.formlib.

2009-12-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Is deprecating in 2.13 and removal in 2.14 ok? Or does anyone have a different preference? Is it ok to backport this to 2.12? +1 to dropping it in Zope 2.13:  folks who are using it will just

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: Zope/trunk/ Moved zope.formlib / zope.app.form integration into a separate package called five.formlib.

2009-12-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:43 PM, yuppie y.2...@wcm-solutions.de wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: +1 for shipping Zope 2.12.3 with five.formlib -1 for adding new deprecation warnings in a bugfix release Ok. So I'll backport five.formlib to the 2.12 branch leaving BBB imports

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - packages with zope.app dependencies

2009-12-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: So, ZTK is ready for 1.0 final release ? Far from it. After we managed the huge chunk of technical work, we still need to start working on all the not-so-fun process stuff around it. Typical questions are: - How do we find a

[Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - packages with zope.app dependencies

2009-12-26 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. I allowed myself to work on the Zope Toolkit over x-mas and make some decisions to get some progress ;-) The good news is that all our herculean efforts to unclutter the dependency structures have really payed off. Only very few zope.* packages still have dependencies on zope.app packages. I

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit - packages with zope.app dependencies

2009-12-26 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Good morning :) On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:11 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/27 Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu: The Zope Toolkit is explicitly not a framework or application server - it shouldn't contain any zope.app packages, neither directly nor as test

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.schema

2009-12-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be wrote: Jean-Francois and I made a few improvements to zope.schema. Would it be possible to get a new release ? You have a new 3.6.0 release up on PyPi. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.schema

2009-12-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be wrote: On 22/12/09 15:09, Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be  wrote: Jean-Francois and I made a few improvements to zope.schema. You have a new 3.6.0 release

[Zope-dev] Zope2 and WSGI

2009-12-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Tres, I've seen you started some work on Zope2 and its WSGI publisher. This is awesome :) How does this relate to repoze.zope2? I'd love to have Zope2 actually support WSGI out-of-the-box. It should probably be based on either a simplified repoze.zope2 codebase or simply something that gets

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.schema

2009-12-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be wrote: On 22/12/09 17:23, Hanno Schlichting wrote: I also made the required changes in all the other Zope Toolkit packages to the new testing output, released new versions of them all and updated the ZTK. This is a nice

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.schema

2009-12-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be wrote: Thanks for all details. I dunno if this is documented somewhere else. If it is not, where could that be added to help newcomers ? I didn't find something in the docs that explained this, so I wrote it down :) The

Re: [Zope-dev] New release of zope.interface

2009-12-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Fabio Tranchitella kob...@kobold.it wrote: I fixed the unit tests of the zope.interface package, which were broken by the last release of zope.testing. Can somebody make a release, or give me access to the PyPI package? My nickname is kobold. I'd rather see a

Re: [Zope-dev] New release of zope.interface

2009-12-22 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Fabio Tranchitella kob...@kobold.it wrote: * 2009-12-22 22:54, Hanno Schlichting wrote: Isn't the new release emitting a deprecation warning? In this case, I'd fix zope.interface (and all the other packages). I'm not sure. I only work against the ZTK, which

Re: [Zope-dev] New release needed for z3c.recipe.depgraph

2009-12-21 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Fabio Tranchitella kob...@kobold.it wrote: I've just committed a simple patch to allow extras in the eggs option of a z3c.recipe.depgraph-based recipe. Cool. I properly released 0.5 including your fix :) Hanno

Re: [Zope-dev] Compression format for ZTK packages

2009-12-17 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: Could someone remind me if the bug happens during packing (and breaks the .tgz for everyone, which gets noticed and fixed soon) or during unpacking (and affects only a small percentage of users; those who still use python

Re: [Zope-dev] Compression format for ZTK packages

2009-12-16 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com wrote: I guess which were created by windowze people. It does zips by default. Nope. I only create zips being on Mac OS. With the tarfile module in Python 2.4 being utterly broken, I ran into too much trouble with broken tar.gzips

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 book: who ripped out the docs on using ExternalMethods?

2009-12-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: There used to be a section in the Advanced Zope Scripting chapter which documented using External Methods:  why is it gone now? Looks like Hanno did this in r96569, 2009-02-15.  I'm planning to revert the parts of that

Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-12-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: I'm certainly -1 on using the term in the ZCA. I think changing our nomenclature would be terrible for the same reasons I think changing (as opposed to extending/improving) our API would be terrible. Utilities are in

Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-11-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: We could also say that we will clean up the API when we move to Python 3. That is a natural breaking point anyway, so it will not any extra pain for users of the ZCA. Except that is precisely what the Python developers

Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-11-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote:  * Use a different package name! We don't have that option, as we're talking about changing the behavior of calling IFoo. It's very well possible. You create a new distribution

Re: [Zope-dev] implementing zope.component 4.0

2009-11-28 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Adam GROSZER wrote: I had a feeling that adapter lookup can be alone slowish with lots of registrations. We had a large project that was cut in half and the z3c.form UI, which is rather heavily adaptation based

Re: [Zope-dev] improving the utility and adapter lookup APIs

2009-11-25 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Hmm, I may be missing something here, but if Foo implements IFoo, then the getAdapter lookup for it will short circuit, leading you into infinite recursion.  Except that it doesn't: [snip example] which strikes me as

Re: [Zope-dev] make zope.component.registry.Components inherit from dict?

2009-11-24 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Matthew Wilkes matt...@matthewwilkes.co.uk wrote: But, here is where the ZCA eyes come back into play, I wouldn't add this to the ZCA itself.  One reason being that Hanno's been working on a more useful persistent component root for Zope that brings in bits of

Re: [Zope-dev] Handling instance specific configuration files with buildout

2009-11-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: There is, however, one thing I haven't quite worked out how to do is add stuff to the instance's etc folder. We have some configuration files which are instance specific which we have so far kept in in

Re: [Zope-dev] Setuptools / Distribute

2009-11-17 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Charlie Clark charlie.cl...@clark-consulting.eu wrote: I'm about to migrate my first Zope to project to buildout. Does it matter whether I use setuptools or distribute? And is there any preference for one over the other? Preference comes down to personal

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 6 OK, 2 Failed

2009-11-02 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: I am going one step further and propose to support officially only Python 2.6 (and inofficially Python 2.5). Why? Right now it is possible writing Zope 2.12 compatible add-ons that might use Python 2.6 feature. Another using

Re: [Zope-dev] Small modification about z3c.recipe.depgraph

2009-10-19 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Sebastien Douche sdou...@gmail.com wrote: I use z3c.recipe.depgraph for our projects that use Zope3. The trouble is depgraph use the working set to generate the list of eggs. It's not what I want, (only eggs specified in the recipe and not all Zope3 eggs).

Re: [Zope-dev] five.localsitemanager and unregisterUtility

2009-10-19 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Sylvain Viollon sylv...@infrae.com wrote:  I added test for unregisterUtility, and fix the bug I encounter,  which happens only for utilities which inherit from Aquisition, and  have a physical path.  If you have time, I guess it's ready for a release. I

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.container-3.9.0-py2.6-win32.egg have no configure.zcml

2009-10-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Takayuki Shimizukawa shimizuk...@gmail.com wrote: I want to use zope.container package w/ python-2.6 on Windows. However, there is no configure.zcml (and a constraints.txt) in zope.container-3.9.0-py2.6-win32.egg. Maybe, this has failed in making the egg

Re: [Zope-dev] standard_html_header standard_html_footer in Zope 2.12

2009-10-16 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote:    Is standard_html_header standard_html_footer removed in Zope 2.12 ? It looks

Re: [Zope-dev] standard_html_header standard_html_footer in Zope 2.12

2009-10-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote:    Is standard_html_header standard_html_footer removed in Zope 2.12 ? Yes. I cleaned up the default persistent content in 2.12. There's only an index_html (now a page template instead of a dtml method), the favicon.ico and a

Re: [Zope-dev] Is it all right to merge for unicodeSpliting at ZCTextIndex?

2009-10-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Takeshi Yamamoto t...@mac.com wrote: I would like to make this change effective as soon as possible. So, hopefully to the 2.12.1. There's both a maintenance branch for 2.12 and trunk (which will become 2.13). I'm +1 on merging. It looks simple enough and I know

Re: [Zope-dev] five.localsitemanager and unregisterUtility

2009-10-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Sylvain. I'm including Michael here, who's added the mentioned feature in the first place. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Sylvain Viollon sylv...@infrae.com wrote:   I used to use those features in Silva. It work well with 0.4, but   it's broken in 1.x. (I have tests in Silva testing

Re: [Zope-dev] Removing zope.testrecorder from the ZTK

2009-10-08 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: I know a lot of people are using testrecorder with Plone. That doesn't mean it has to be in the ZTK of course. Never heard of anyone who did. zope.testbrowser is used quite a bit, if that's what you meant. Hanno

Re: [Zope-dev] allow-picked-versions=false in ztk.cfg?

2009-10-08 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: If we do that, I'd also suggest we use the 'buildout.dumppickedversions'   extension. Does that make sense? After all, if we say allow-picked-version is false, there never will *be* any picked

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.security in the KGS

2009-10-08 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:15 PM, John Murphy jac...@zope.com wrote: We recently were bit by a segfault bug in zope.security (https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/181833) when migrating an application from Python 2.4 to 2.6.  The newest zope.security (3.7.1,

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: cleaning up the content-type story

2009-10-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Thomas Lotze t...@gocept.com wrote: So as a first step, I'd like to release the current code of zope.publisher, zope.server, zope.app.authentication and zope.app.i18n. Can somebody please grant me PyPI rights for these packages? Thank you very much. Granted :)

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: cleaning up the content-type story

2009-10-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Fred Drake fdr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: If someone would document srichter's magic grant-all-powerful PyPi script, I'd run it :) That's a horrible thing to do to somebody! Note that I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] allow-picked-versions=false in ztk.cfg?

2009-10-07 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote:   [ztk.cfg] contains a line   allow-picked-versions = false I agree with Thomas that we should remove this from ztk.cfg, as if we publish this for reuse we don't want to impose this policy on everybody who builds

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: cleaning up the content-type story

2009-10-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Thomas Lotze wrote: - zope.contenttype: parsing of MIME-type identifiers, guessing the MIME   type of file contents, preferrably without dependencies within the ZTK Can I suggest that we use a different name?

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.filerepresentation release

2009-10-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: I'd very much like a release of this. :) Would anyone mind making a 3.5.1 release, or else give me PyPI rights so that I can do it myself. I gave you owner rights for this package. Hanno

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.filerepresentation release

2009-10-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Fabio Tranchitella wrote: * 2009-10-05 12:15, Martin Aspeli wrote: Would anyone mind making a 3.5.1 release, or else give me PyPI rights so that I can do it myself. Shouldn't this be 3.6.0? I don't care one way

Re: [Zope-dev] Updating the ZTK KGS

2009-10-05 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Thomas Lotze t...@gocept.com wrote: I see two options: - make ztk.cfg available from zope.org (why docs.zope.org, btw?) under a  versioned URL - release a ztk egg that depends on the exactly versioned packages The latter is probably the more reusable. I'd

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.filerepresentation

2009-10-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Is there any reason to invent a new API and not just use Python's file API? I don't know. IReadFile and IWriteFile have been around for ever and are used by a number of things in Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.0 released

2009-10-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
contributed to this release. Special thanks to Tres Seaver for his tireless efforts in fixing bugs and maintaining the Zope 2 codebase and Hanno Schlichting who worked hard and steadfast on the eggification of Zope 2 and on the cleanup of various dark corners of the Zope 2 codebase. Thank you Andreas

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: cleaning up the content-type story

2009-10-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Thomas Lotze t...@gocept.com wrote: I also wonder whether it might make sense to utilise the /etc/mime.types database (or the system's equivalent) for guessing based on the file-name extension, and libmagic (if available) for magic-number tests based on file

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.0 released

2009-10-01 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Yeah! I added the Windows binary eggs for Python 2.4 to 2.6 to PyPi. Someone still needs to do this for: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ExtensionClass/2.11.3 I would, but I don't have

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.filerepresentation

2009-09-30 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: Here's an initial take on the interfaces: class IReadFile(Interface):     Provide read access to file data         def read():         Return the file data as a str             def size():         Return

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.catalog in ZTK

2009-09-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Albertas Agejevas a...@pov.lt wrote: About a year ago zope.app.catalog as been moved to zope.catalog.  I think during this move there was a unique opportunity to leave these event handlers behind in zope.app.catalog, so that the no .app version is free of these

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK test failures - zope.testing

2009-09-21 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi.  I didn't get it done on the 17th, but I did just make a release with the necessary fixes (or, the tests pass for me on Windows and Ubuntu, at least; they already were passing for me on Ubuntu, but I made the

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Move Products.five.form out to a new package

2009-09-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Most of the remaining zope.app dependencies in the Zope2 trunk are related to Products.five.form.  I propose moving all that code out to a new package, e.g. 'five.forms', which can be included by anybody who uses that

Re: [Zope-dev] Proposal: Determining packages which are in the ZTK

2009-09-18 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Sure:  all the zope.app packages.  They have effectively been in probationary status for a while now;  I'm proposing to remove them completely from the ZTK. I'd like to leave any zope.app.* package in the under-review

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK test failures - zope.testing

2009-09-16 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@gmail.com wrote: The Ubuntu one should be easy to fix. The Windows ones may be tied up with \n \r fun.  It should be trivial too, though I'll need to get a Windows VM back up--or request aid from Sidnei. ;-) I'll address these issues

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 debug-mode vs ZCML dev-mode, ZCML conditionals

2009-09-15 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Thomas Lotze t...@gocept.com wrote: - Is Zope2 debug mode semantically equivalent to ZCML dev-mode, i.e.  should the two be linked to each other in the first place? I don't know what kind of functionality is usually switched on by the zcml dev-mode. Are there

[Zope-dev] ZTK test failures - zope.testing

2009-09-15 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi from the Grok sprint, Jan-Jaap from thehealthagency and myself spent some time on getting extensive buildbot coverage for the ZTK (and many other Zope things) going. It's all three Python versions (2.4 - 2.6) on all major platforms (Windows, Mac OS, 32-bit Ubuntu + 64-bit Ubuntu). You can see

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12.0 final

2009-09-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: My plan is to release Zope 2.12.0 final on October 1st 2009. Sounds good. This will also be the official launch date of the new Zope 2 site. Sounds even better. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.security/trunk/ keep trunk version at 0. Update changes

2009-09-10 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alex Chapmanachap...@zope.com wrote: Log message for revision 103721:  keep trunk version at 0. Update changes I think I've seen the practice of denoting the version on trunk as zero from Jim already. It is in conflict with

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Martijn Faassenfaas...@startifact.com wrote: Christian Theune wrote: However, this requires Subversion 1.5 which we are using on the server already, but I don't know whether we assume clients are 1.5 or higher. I certainly still use a SVN 1.4.x client, being on

Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion externals versus mirroring

2009-09-09 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: On 09/09/2009 05:05 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Okay, no objection to upgrading the server to 1.5 now. That has been done a good while ago already (I was probably ambiguous in my mail). Damn, Jens is just doing too much of

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK version numbering and Zope 2.12

2009-08-29 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com wrote:  - What is the current version of ZTK? 1.0? 1.0-something? 3.5? Note that docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit talks about 3.5. To my knowledge the plan was to name the first ZTK release 1.0, to avoid the confusion of it not

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