Dieter Maurer wrote:
Morten W. Petersen wrote at 2006-4-18 16:45 +0200:
I guess the next step is to use pdb og gdb - are there perhaps any
documents out there describing the process?
You use your favorite search engine and search for Zope spinning debug.
Yep. ;)
-Morten
and supported for a period of time. If it isn't,
then this is *definately* a bug.
I agree. I've reported it as a bug:
http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1965
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I wasn't arguing that configure/make was hard to use. I'm arguing
that it's something extra to maintain and is just silly.
It's main benefit is that it leverages a familiar pattern, but
I'm not convinced that it's worth it. Also, as tools like rpm and
deb become more widely used, I'm not
and before returning none, it says 'returning issue' on stdout.
-Morten
Chris McDonough wrote:
Hi Morten,
You'd probably need to show us the implementation of whatever
manage_add_issue is.
- C
On Sep 25, 2005, at 10:09 AM, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
Hi,
I've created a script
Oops, one for the list as well.
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Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Problems adding many objects
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:34:50 +0200
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To: Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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have a note on how I fix it.
Andrew
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I have an application called the Issue Dealer which I'm porting to Zope
2.8. However, whenever I try to access a PageTemplate which makes use
of a page template macro it just hangs and consumes all available CPU.
Any ideas what could be wrong here, or how I could debug it?
Does the server
Hi,
I have an application called the Issue Dealer which I'm porting to Zope
2.8. However, whenever I try to access a PageTemplate which makes use
of a page template macro it just hangs and consumes all available CPU.
Any ideas what could be wrong here, or how I could debug it?
Thanks,
Morten
product name to the new, and
it worked.
Thanks for your help everybody. :)
Regards,
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Hi all,
does anyone know how to rename a product, so that instances of the product
stored in ZODB will work (with the new name) after the rename?
Thanks,
Morten W. Petersen
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On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:17:28PM +, seb bacon wrote:
However, I do build Python with gcc 3.1 (cvs) and Python 2.1.2 and with
various compile options can get a 17% speedup.
Could you share the compile options with us?
BTW seb, I tried compiling Python with the pgcc compiler [1]
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:17:28PM +, seb bacon wrote:
However, I do build Python with gcc 3.1 (cvs) and Python 2.1.2 and with
various compile options can get a 17% speedup.
Could you share the compile options with us?
I'd like to see those compile options as well...
Thanks,
Hi guys,
I've got an issue here, the following traceback can be seen after several
users modify and view the same object in a short (2-3) minute period.
I've tried recataloging the objects but that doesn't help either; this
error is seen every time..
Site Error
An error was encountered while
Hi,
I've been playing a bit with the monitor_client (ZServer/medusa), and it
seems all exceptions aren't raised so it's visible in the client, it's
seen in the debug output from Zope itself.
Has anyone experienced this?
-Morten
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Hi,
after using a module named utils in a Zope product the root management
screen is no longer available (the module is now renamed).
The traceback looks like this:
Traceback (innermost last):
File /home/morten/tmp/Zope-2.4.1-src/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,
line 223, in publish_module
Hia,
While trying to reindex an entire catalog an error is raised, which looks
like this:
Traceback (innermost last):
File
/home/morten/zope_instances/usr2/local/Zope-bcr/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py,
line 223, in publish_module
File
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Paul Everitt wrote:
So, let's begin what I'm sure will be a lively and illuminating
discussion. :^)
First man out? :-)
Will a ZPL-ish license [1] be accepted (declared, ref. paragraph
4 of the Zope Contributor Agreement) by the Zope Corporation?
[1]
On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Remi Delon wrote:
I have a website where users can post messages (using a textarea).
I would like to be able to spell-check what they submit and
notify them of possible mistakes. (much like the online
spell-checker of hotmail that I'm using right now :-))
Has anybody
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Erik Enge wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
How about meta-programming (designing) via the Zope interface, with
UML or somesuch; automatically generating Python code, then enable
designers to use a ZFormulator-ish product to edit the interface
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
Well, it's quite logical: UML can be used to map out both software and
business development (they are, after all, two sides of the same story),
the designer can twiddle-n-polish the interface and the programmer can
take care of 'exceptional
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Stephan Richter wrote:
- A simple DTML Zope programmers costs are okay and maybe below programmer
average.
- A good Zope/Python programmer will cost above average.
- A good Zope/Python System-Designer is very expensive.
Because of that you try to minimize the
On 22 Jun 2001, Simon Michael wrote:
Now here, I have to assume RMS is using combine above to mean
combine and redistribute.
I hope I'm right ? If combine included install zwiki on your zope
installation and use it then everything I know is wrong.. I did
intend for that to be fairly
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Erik Enge wrote:
Now I think I have two different answers to one of my fundamental
questions in this discussion: if I have a GPL-compatible licensed product
and I distribute it with a GPL product, do I need to relicense the former
one to GPL? Because that is what I
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Erik Enge wrote:
Ok, good. Then Thingamy's intermediate solution will be to create a TPL
which is basically the ZPL with the incompatible-clauses ripped out
(number 4 and 7, I think). That way we are compatible with both the ZPL
and the GPL.
Something like that.
On 22 Jun 2001, Simon Michael wrote:
Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One of the consequences being that someone re-distributing zope
zwiki together, under their default licenses, is technically in
violation right now, I think we are all agreeing.
Technically yes, although I
Hi there,
we @ thingamy are considering changing our license to a ZPL-ish one [1] to
better serve our clients' needs. However, some of the (Zope) products
we've developed may need to rely on GPL'ed code, or needs to be
incorporated within it, and the 'obnoxious advertising clause'
seemingly
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Andy McKay wrote:
Ive been successfully finding other things to do other ZPM which is an
attempt to make a package manager for Zope ala RPM, PPM etc. A command line
interface to it would be cool.
Cool. And maybe some apt-get functionality? Like 'zope-apt-get
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Evan Simpson wrote:
Morten W. Petersen wrote:
one of my products landed flat on its face when an ImportError was raised
trying to import VSEval from DocumentTemplate; is there a new class /
function of some sort or simply another name for the class?
See $ZOPE
Hia guys,
running the GUM product on a fresh BerkeleyDB based 2.4.0a1 instance on
Linux raises the following issue for the field index type:
Site Error
An error was encountered while publishing this resource.
Error Type: ('type', 0, type 'string', type 'int')
Error Value: None
Hia guys,
during testing of a mail product I've discovered that the Data.fs file may
bloat considerably after storing 50 messages. Packing the database will
reduce the Data.fs file to 20 MB (from 40 MB). Another thing is that
storing 50 messages takes a *long time* on a 600Mhz 256 MB RAM
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Shane Hathaway wrote:
Did you catalog each message? What version of Zope?
Yes, every message was cataloged. Zope version 2.3.2
3) Manually zap the caches periodically, which is a capability of Zope
2.4.x.
Okay, this is interesting. Any examples on how to implement
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Chris McDonough wrote:
Morten W. Petersen wrote:
Yes, every message was cataloged. Zope version 2.3.2
Were subtransactions in the Catalog turned on (see the Advanced page)?
Yes, and the threshold was at 1.
-Morten
Hia guys,
I was wondering if any of you could give me a couple of hints about how to
make the _.{random,string,range,Datetime} thingies from a tag expression.
I.e. instead of doing this:
dtml-widget select options=[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13]
Hia guys,
A couple of comments and questions about the ZCatalog:
Is it possible to pass an argument to the catalog so that returned brains
would instead be actual objects?
Given that we have to manually join search results, because ZCatalog
doesn't support ORs etc (for FieldIndexes), wouldn't
Hia guys,
the recent changes to the HTTPRequest class breaks some of my
code. I may have missed some notifications, but why wasn't
this made clear as it could obviously break code?
-Morten
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Chris McDonough wrote:
What breaks? There was no intention to break code or change the API.
Code that looked like this:
REQUEST['key_name1']
REQUEST['key_name2']
Now has to be changed to this:
REQUEST.form['key_name1']
Hi guys,
some people have asked me to use INSTANCE_HOME instead of SOFTWARE_HOME,
which breaks their products on debian distros.
Now, I'm not sure that won't break other systems if I change it; anyone
care to share?
Thanks,
Morten
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Hi guys,
I've been trying to ensure that documents from a certain website are
always fresh, that is, every request for a new page must be validated
before the client sees it.
I've tried using these HTTP Cache-control directives:
no-cache
no-store
max-age (1)
Hi guys,
I've got a problem making a version of the DynPersist.dll file work
on windows. The message when trying to load the DynPersist module
says (paraphrasing) "A unit attached to the system doesn't work".
Anyone else experienced this?
Also, I read that users of Zope 2.2.x could skip this
[Steve Alexander]
| Try this one:
|
|http://www.cat-box.net/steve/DynPersist-0.4.3b1.dll
|
| I've had this one working on Windows 2000, Zope 2.3.
Yep, this works. On Windows 98 with Zope 2.3.0.
Thanks again,
Morten
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| Note that the algoritm is simple - for each index, compare the what exists
| in the index to what is to be put in. If they're the same, do nothing. If
| they're different, reindex. I wasn't able to understand completely from
| your description whether the object method
Hi guys,
I've got a problem with ZCatalog. I've got plenty of large
objects, ranging from 100KB to 100MB in size. Needless to
say, these take up a lot of processor time when indexed by
the ZCatalog.
Now, these object have to be moved from time to time, only
moved, so that one or two of the
[Casey Duncan]
| Actually what I wrote assumes you are passing a Catalog not a ZCatalog.
| So you will need to change it for a ZCatalog to:
I figured that out. :-)
There is one problem, the uids stored in the Catalog are based on the path of the
object, so I guess I'll have to make a copy of
[Valérie Aulnette]
| Did someone try ? And how ?
You can't synchronize at this point. It's a planned feature, but
don't hold your breath. :-)
Cheers,
Morten
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Hi guys,
I'm having trouble making ZCatalog work. The problem is that
there are 29 objects of a given meta type, with the same
booleans that should be returned for an iteration; but only
20 are. Is this a result of caching perhaps? Or lazy
results?
Thanks,
Morten
[Tim McLaughlin]
| Anybody know how to catalog the object "owner"? I can't seem to find a
| property to catalog the value of getUserName(). (of course I could always
| kludge it with a property in the constructor, but I would prefer use what is
| already there).
I'll second that, the ability
[Chris McDonough]
| I'll second that, the ability to catalog values returned by method calls
| would be sweet..
|
| Not sure what you mean, this works now.
Aha? So if I specify a field index of, get_parent_node_id, which is a
function call on all objects that are to be indexed, this would
[Steve Alexander]
| But it's not just characters. A field index indexes an object, and uses
| the overloaded comparison operators for that object to put it in an
| appropriate place. So, you can index DateTime objects, tuples, strings,
| numbers, floats...
Could a field index succesfully
[Erik Enge]
| Can't you just subclass the BTree Folder as you would with OFS.Folder?
|
| I think you might be confusing the Zope BTree implementation with the
| BTree Folder Product?
I've tried subclassing BTreeFolder, but then, whenever the object is
accessed, zope falls flat on its face.
Hi zopers,
I've been wondering what may be causing the REQUEST object to
store form values in the other dictionary. Is this a new
feature or simply a bug?
Cheers,
Morten
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Hi guys,
I've been struggling with a problem, namely ConflictErrors.
At times, a long-running process may add 100, 1000, 1
objects to a single folder. Under this process, several
ConflictErrors may be raised, but they are captured, and
the transaction committed again. Problem solved.
[Cyril Elkaim]
|Hi all,
Hia Cyril,
[snip]
| Aside from my problems Zope rocks really.
Yes it does. And you can find usable information in
$ZOPE_INSTANCE/lib/python/OFS/ZDOM.py .
Hope this helps,
Morten
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[Tim McLaughlin]
| Is this true on windows too? I saw some mention of this limit be lifted,
| but if so, in what version?
It's not a problem on Windows, AFAIK. It's a problem with Linux, if
you want to be able to use databases 2GB in size on Linux, a
kernel = 2.4.0 is required.
Hope this
[Andy McKay]
| Yes, you will hit this limit. Windows uses a 32 bit integer for file size...
| No matter what MS says, Ive hit it on Win2k.
Interesting. Are you sure the problem lies with Win2K and not Python or
something else?
Cheers,
Morten
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[Erik Enge]
| [Morten W. Petersen]
|
| | It's a problem with Linux, if you want to be able to use databases
| | 2GB in size on Linux, a kernel = 2.4.0 is required.
|
| Nope. First, the limit is at file-level, not database-level (mind
| you, a problem with the filesystem, not Linux per se
[Erik Enge]
| [Morten W. Petersen]
|
| | BTW, there is a list called [EMAIL PROTECTED], for ZODB specific
| | questions.
|
| Actually, I think its called ZODB-Dev; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I stand corrected.
Cheers,
Morten
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[Erik Enge]
| What happens if you run this with ZEO? Will the file be kept «in
| sync» with all ZEO Clients?
Good point. I don't think so. It could be that it is kept in sync
with one Zope instance "being responsible" and the others calling
it via XML-RPC.
Cheers,
Morten
[Wolfgang Strobl]
| Doesn't even install on Windows, because it imports and uses fcntl.
|
| From the fcntl docs: "Availability: Unix".
Well, the download page says "Platform: Generic UNIX-like", doesn't it?
-Morten
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[Andy McKay]
| I released FSPoll recently and was going to combine the two into one
| FSCountThing with FSPoll and FSCounter subclassing of it, so maybe we could
| co-operate on ThreadSafeCounter and FSCounter?
The ideal solution would be to use an object that lives in the ZODB, I wonder
if
[Erik Enge]
| Forget it. My fault. *shame, shame*
*chuckle* :-)
-Morten
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[Chris Withers]
| So would a counter such as:
|
| class PersistentCounter(Persistent):
|
| # create the counter
| def __init__(self, value=0):
| self._value = value
|
| # get the value of the counter without incrementing
| def getValue(self):
| return
[Jon Franz]
| I had this problem in the past and hacked the mysql DA to fix it, then
| dicovered to my dismay I was using an out-of-date mysqlDA and it had already
| been fixed... Which DA are you using?
Using Python 2.0 could solve this problem, as longs are no longer rendered
with the L
Hi guys,
There's a new product available, which enables unique ids in a given context,
take a look at url:http://www.zope.org/Members/morphex/ThreadSafeCounter.
Cheers,
Morten
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Hi zopistas,
I've managed to build a product called ValueChecker which when installed
hooks into the prosessing of form input.
It's basic at this point, a mere proof-of-concept, but I can think of
so many uses!
Cheers. :-)
-Morten
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Hi guys,
IIRC, there was some talk about modularizing the field
converters (checkers) so that they could be easiliy modified
and added to. Is there currently any efforts to solving
this problem? If not, there's definently a need for it,
IMO..
Thank you for your time.
-Morten
On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Steve Alexander wrote:
Sounds to me like your needs would best be served with two
related products: a TTW ZClass product and a Python Product.
Each ZClass is derived from an associated Python base class.
You get to keep you flexibility, but also get the advantages
of
Hi guys,
I'm wondering about creating IMAP and SMTP services for Zope.
Someone mentioned to me that extending (using?) the ZServer
could be a Good Thing (tm).
Could anyone point me in the right direction?
Thanks.
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Hi fellow zopers,
I don't know if it's a bug or feature, but whenever I try
to access parental objects from a user object in python
code, I can't seem to find anything.
That is, whenever I call acl_users.getItem('user123').getParentNode()
(the acl_users is a LoginManager instance) it returns
Hi zopers,
I'm having problems with a product I'm developing. The product is part of the
ZopeGUM package, the GUM product. If you have a look in gum.py in that
product, you can see a method named _retrieve_messages, which can at
times store enourmous amounts of objects and data in one
[Chris Withers]
| Please check that both rfc822_message and message_container subclass
| Persistence.Persistent.
They do. *ponder*
-Morten
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Hi guys,
I have a problem with a product. This product, let's call it product
SuperSecret, adds a number of folderish objects to the new instance
when it is created. Now, if we name the SuperSecret product instance for
a, and the class instance that raises the AttributeError b, I
will show you
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(Bug in the encoding of the message, MHA)
| path = string.split(relative_url, '/')
| path = filter(None, path)
| new_path = '%s' % path[0]
| path = path[1:]
|
| for element in path:
|
| new_path = new_path + "['%s']" % element
|
| return eval("self%s" % new_path)
[Steve Alexander]
| Have you seen the methods restrictedTraverse and unrestrictedTraverse in
| lib/python/OFS/Traversable.py ?
Exactly what I needed. Thank you.
-Morten
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Hi,
I'm having difficulties calling an HTML file from python..
Here's the code:
[...]
from events import conflicting_events
calendar_event_add_redirect = HTMLFile('calendar_event_add_redirect',
globals())
manage_add_calendar_event_form =
Is there anyone who could try to give an estimate of how long it would
take to add fuzzy logic (regexp-like) searching capability to the
ZCatalog?
And reasoning as to why would be appreciated. ;)
-Morten
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[Steve Spicklemire]
| does that help?
Yep.
Thanks Cheers,
Morten
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Hi guys,
I previously posted a couple of functions that enables users to
login at a lower level in the tree-structre than where the actual
user folder is.
I.e.,
a user could enter username and password at
/a
and get redirected to
/a/a/a/a/b
(the acl_users folder would be
I think I read somewhere that it was, from version 2.2
of Zope, possible to 'subclass' products. Is this
just somebody janking my chain, or is it actually possible?
If it is possible, would someone care to explain?
Thanks.
-Morten
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[Morten W. Petersen]
| Any suggestions?
Found the problem. There needs to be a method called user_names
in the acl_users folder, which returns all the user ids:
"""
paramsself/params
user_ids = self.UserSource.getPersistentItemIDs()
user_ids2 = []
for id in user_ids:
[Magnus Heino]
| I'd appreciate to be able to download some code from zope.org :-)
Uhmm. Yeah. http://www.zope.org/Members/morphex/ZopeGUM -- guess
you don't know about the /Product and search facilities.. ;)
Cheers,
Morten
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For the last couple of months I've been working on a groupware
package for Zope, named ZopeGUM. It has reached version
0.1.63 now, and it's in steady progress.
All the planned components, like messenger, address book,
calendar, todos, etc. are there and working now; though
it's definently not
[Brian Lloyd]
| This comes up often enough that I'm inclined to do
| something about it for 2.3. I propose that objectIds
| (and objectValues) will not be directly accessible
| via the Web in 2.3. For xml-rpc applications, it should
| be a simple enough task to create a Python Script (or
|
[Veiko Schnabel]
| how do i check out if any of my fields are arrays or strings
| is there a function like php: is_array()
I can't think of any clean way to do this; zope developers, why isn't
the type() function available from DTML?
On the other hand, you can explicitly cast all your form
[Andy McKay]
| Is it possible to print unbuffered html output to the user from an external
| method. It looks to me like I can't, output occurs upon the return and I
| cant see a way of getting around that.
Try hacking the BaseResponse, located in lib/python/ZPublisher.
(implement the flush
[Phillip J. Eby]
| I uploaded the beta 2 release on October 31, but it has strangely
| disappeared from Zope.org, along with changes I made to other items that
| evening, so I have uploaded it again today. The DynPersist you posted
| should still work, since there were no changes to
I'm having trouble with the adding of new objects; specifically
it's adding of rfc822_address objects (contained within the
ZopeGUM distribution, http://www.zope.org/Members/morphex/ZopeGUM).
I haven't really got a clue what's wrong, have any of you?
-- Start debugging session
How do I construct a method of an object, so that whenever that method
is called, the current namespace is passed with it?
I.e.:
class myclass:
[...]
def myfunc(self, context):
if context['sequence-index'] == 10:
raise 'sequence-index is
When using the monitor_client, I do this:
-- Start monitor_client usage
python monitor_client.py localhost 8099
Enter Password:
warning: unhandled connect event
Python 1.5.2 (#1, Mar 11 2000, 13:03:53) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)]
Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum,
[Yves-Eric Martin]
| - Zope.app() gives you a *copy* of the *real* application object.
| - app._p_jar.sync() reloads your copy with the real (losing your changes)
Ah, there it is; sync discards the changes made from the monitor, and then
reloads...
An extra thanks for the thorough
How do I authenticate myself when using the Zope debugger?
(I've seen this before I think, but I couldn't find it)
Thanks.
-Morten
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| btw how is GUM going?
It's ZopeGUM now.. =)
It's coming along; I'm planning on releasing a stable version of it available
within a week.
(CVS will be available soon from SourceForge).
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When I'm building a class which inherits from the OFS.Folder.Folder, how
do I exlude the meta_types it brings with it (if it's there they come
from).
In other words, if I have a class, with meta_type 'MessageFilterFolder',
which should only be able to contain instances of meta_type
I've been fiddling a bit with the LoginManager; but can't seem to make
it work.
The product versions are ZPatterns 0.3.0 and LoginManager 0.8.6.
(Downgraded the ZPatterns product because the LoginManager couldn't
find a class named .. SheetProviderContainer, I think).
When adding a
Is there a method available that'll return a nested list of ids (or
something similar) of the current object?
-Morten
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[Erik Enge]
| On 15 Oct 2000, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
|
| Is there a method available that'll return a nested list of ids (or
| something similar) of the current object?
|
| "current object"? You probably mean objects?
No, the current (containing) object.
| Could
[Phillip J. Eby]
| 0.8.6 won't work with 0.3.0 ZPatterns, IIRC. I'm pretty positive it
| requires one of the 0.4.x releases, but I'm not positive which one. You
| might be better off with the latest (current) releases of both.
Okay, I tried different ZPattern versions against the most recent
Is this behavior correct?
See http://www.zope.org/Members/paulabrams/howto_deleteundeadzclassprops
for help.
It is not a bug per se, Python (upon which ZOPE is based) is built this
way, i.e. if you create a class with certain attributes, every instance
will keep those attributes, even if they
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
It is not a bug per se, Python (upon which ZOPE is based) is built this
way, i.e. if you create a class with certain attributes, every instance
will keep those attributes, even if they are deleted from the class
itself, and new instances
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