[Zope-dev] Re: zope.fssync in Zope 2.11

2007-10-02 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Thomas Lotze wrote: I just realized that Zope 2.11.0-a1 contains zope.app.fssync but not zope.fssync. This doesn't make much sense to me given that the former depends on the latter. Is there a good reason for it, should both be included, or none of the two? Probably an oversight.

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/branches/2.10/ Merge r80451 from trunk

2007-10-02 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
According to CHANGES.txt, you're fixing a bug. Where's the test that exercises that the bug fix code? (Yes, I'm going to get anal about this.) To anybody, the fix will look a bit dubious. At least I personally am wondering how simply changing the datatype in the ZConfig schema will work... A

[Zope-dev] Re: I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-04 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jim Fulton wrote: This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. +100 -- http://worldcookery.com -- Professional Zope documentation and training ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-04 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:57, Jim Fulton wrote: This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. -1. I do not follow zope-dev at all and the traffic is pretty high there. If you do not follow it at all,

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: AW: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-06 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 06 October 2007 13:14, Andreas Jung wrote: You are using 7 times the term Zope2 and 9 times Zope 3 and also Plone 3.0 in this small text. Can you try to describe this without 2 or 3 in Zope *? I guess not, right? s/Zope 2/Zope application server s/Zope 3/Zope

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: AW: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martijn Faassen wrote: Zope 3 is a bunch of technologies for building (web) applications in the form of an integrate set of Python libraries. Let's call those the Zope Libraries. Because by now we have far more than just the ones that came from exploding Zope 3 (e.g. all the ones from the

Re: [Zope-dev] AW: I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-08 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Dieter Maurer wrote: David Pratt wrote at 2007-10-8 00:21 -0300: Zope 2 is one application among many dependent upon zope 3. Zope 3 is different software than zope 2. I do not argue with you that Zope3 is different software than Zope 2. What I argue about is Zope 2 is an application. I have

[Zope-dev] Re: zope.app.error 3.5.1 not listed on distribution list

2007-10-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Uli Fouquet wrote: during grok development we recently experienced some trouble with the zope.app.error package. We distribute the list on `http://download.zope.org/distribution` as sources list for grokproject, so that projects created with that tool, by default lookup this list for available

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/ Moved two implements declarations from Five into the proper classes.

2007-10-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Log message for revision 80945: Moved two implements declarations from Five into the proper classes. I object to this change. HTTPRequest does not really fulfil the IBrowserRequest interface, and ObjectManager isn't a real IContainer either. I understand that

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope on Python 2.5?

2007-11-01 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Baiju M wrote: Hi Limi, Alexander Limi wrote: Sorry if this has been asked hundreds of times before — I couldn't find any info on this apart from the Summer of Code project related to Zope 3. Now only the packages under `zope` `zope.app` packages works using Python 2.5 . I don't know

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope on Python 2.5?

2007-11-01 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Alexander Limi wrote: Will Zope 2 ever run on Python 2.5, or is that postponed indefinitely? It will run on Python 2.5 when somebody makes it run. We see an increasing amount of users trying to use Zope 2 with their systems that have Python 2.5 as default. Then I suggest you do something

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007, Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Tres Whoever released those two eggs (the '.dev-r#' ones) need to release real updated packages, and then grok 0.11.1 should be released using them. DEATH TO FAUX PACKAGES! As far as I understand, this does not

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: It can't because you guys broke a dozen packages when you split up some of the zope.app.* packages. I'm going to fix this now. Can we stop pointing fingers, please? Sorry for not sugar coating the facts. I

[Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.securitypolicy/trunk/setup.py This package doesn't just work with any versin of zope.i18nmessageid, it needs

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Modified: zope.app.securitypolicy/trunk/setup.py === --- zope.app.securitypolicy/trunk/setup.py 2007-11-09 13:08:59 UTC (rev 81634

[Zope-dev] Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Nov 9, 2007 4:06 PM, Roger Ineichen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Create our own locked down index? I think so because, Surely there must be a way to say I want to use THAT KGS over there. Except for this module, that should hav this version. And of course, all these

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Roger Ineichen wrote: Before KGS there was no concept for keep the eggs in sync. Each project has to do it by itself. KGS at least is something that helps to manage the zope eggs. Everything outside this has to be done by the release manager of the project. And before the KGS, the cheesshop

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.securitypolicy/branches/3.4/CHANGES.txt Bring over changes from the trunk

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 9 Nov 2007, at 16:51 , Lennart Regebro wrote: On Nov 9, 2007 4:06 PM, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 09 November 2007, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: -Version 3.4.0 (2007/9/25) -- +- Reverted the premature split away of core components

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.securitypolicy/branches/3.4/CHANGES.txt Bring over changes from the trunk

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 9 Nov 2007, at 17:11 , Lennart Regebro wrote: On Nov 9, 2007 5:02 PM, Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but other packages in the current KGS have already been converted to use zope.securitypolicy, so reverting the split-up would cause more trouble than I thought

[Zope-dev] RFC: Packages should load configuration they depend upon

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/PackagesShouldLoadConfigurationTheyDependUpon Comments appreciated. Otherwise, silence is treated as assent. I'm planning on starting with this tomorrow as part of the Boring Sprint we're having in Tübingen right now. ___

Re: AW: [Zope-dev] RFC: Packages should load configuration they depend upon

2007-11-09 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 9 Nov 2007, at 20:15 , Roger Ineichen wrote: Betreff: [Zope-dev] RFC: Packages should load configuration they depend upon http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/PackagesShouldLoadConfigurationThey DependUpon Comments appreciated. Otherwise, silence is treated as assent. I'm planning on starting with

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: A KGS needs to have the following properties: - The generation zero of any KGS is an empty set of revisions. - By default, any revision N of a KGS starts out as a draft version which is an empty layer over version N-1. Changes to the draft then shadow any versions

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 10 Nov 2007, at 14:06 , Tres Seaver wrote: If we have software which can generate the pacakge index at a URL for a KGS, then it could certainly generate a 'version.cfg' as well, to support buildout. We already do. Stephan's zope.release does that already. The file is actually available

[Zope-dev] Re: Egg install bot results

2007-11-14 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris McDonough wrote: - Institute a policy that all distributions that are released to the cheeseshop should be installable via easy_install. IMO, if they are not installable this way, they should not be released to the cheeseshop, given the larger Python community's

[Zope-dev] Re: release checker bot results (11/17/2007)

2007-11-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris McDonough wrote: Attempting to easy_install all 'zope'-related releases using the script at http://svn.repoze.org/playground/trunk/chris/zopesvnchecker/releasechecker.py , the results were: 8 failures, 183 successes. See http://www.plope.com/static/misc/rcresults-2007-11.17.txt for

[Zope-dev] Re: KGS Site Updated

2007-11-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: I just updated the Zope 3.4 KGS with some new features. 1. You only need to upload the controlled-packages.cfg file now; all other files are generated. 2. The controlled-packages.cfg file now supports a name and version option. Thus, all generated files are versioned

[Zope-dev] Re: RestrtrictedPython vs zope.security.untrustedpython

2007-11-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Both are. RestrictedPython is still used in Zope2. Ah, so RestrictedPython is actually what's used for Script (Python)'s in current Zope 2 releases? Yes, it's a low-level compiler for Python code that replaces certain operations such as getattr

[Zope-dev] Re: RestrtrictedPython vs zope.security.untrustedpython

2007-11-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 19 Nov 2007, at 20:26 , Chris Withers wrote: So, I'm guessing RestrictedPython is the one to aim for? No idea what you need... http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2007-November/466438.html It seems like zope.security does exactly what you need (e.g. user code shouldn't have to

[Zope-dev] Re: RestrtrictedPython vs zope.security.untrustedpython

2007-11-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 20 Nov 2007, at 00:15 , Chris Withers wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 19 Nov 2007, at 20:26 , Chris Withers wrote: So, I'm guessing RestrictedPython is the one to aim for? No idea what you need... http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2007-November/466438.html It seems

[Zope-dev] Re: request.get vs request.form.get

2007-11-24 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Maurits van Rees wrote: I have been busy with zope.formlib. See this weblog entry for some background: http://maurits.vanrees.org/weblog/archive/2007/11/search-forms-with-zope-formlib-and-batching This is Plone 3 with Zope 2.10.4 btw. I discovered there is a difference between getting a

[Zope-dev] Re: unregistering components?

2007-11-24 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Ross Patterson wrote: Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, Does the component architecture support un-registering adapters and the like? From zope.component.interfaces: class IComponentRegistry(interface.Interface): Register components

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: unregistering components?

2007-11-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 25 Nov 2007, at 13:37 , Chris Withers wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: class IComponentRegistry(interface.Interface): I think you should use zope.component.getGlobalSiteManager() for this. So getGlobalSiteManager returns a component registry? Yes. It returns the one and only

[Zope-dev] Re: deferredimport?

2007-11-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Is deferredimport handy for dealing with circular import problems, Sure. or was it targetted at solving another problem? From zope.deferredimport/trunk/src/zope/deferredimport/README.txt or its PyPI page (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.deferredimport/3.4.0):

[Zope-dev] Re: zopeproject and eggs lead to wrong zopeversion

2007-11-26 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Christophe Combelles wrote: Hello, An full-egg zope 3.4 buildout installed with zopeproject tells me the zope version is 3.3.1 (in /++etc++process/): - I have a fully eggified zope 3.4 installed with zopeproject. - I also have a zope 3.3.1 installed on the system python. When I start the 3.4

[Zope-dev] Re: unregistering components?

2007-11-26 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 25 Nov 2007, at 13:37 , Chris Withers wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: class IComponentRegistry(interface.Interface): I think you should use zope.component.getGlobalSiteManager() for this. So getGlobalSiteManager returns

[Zope-dev] Re: Additional locales for zope.i18n.locales.data?

2007-11-27 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Nathan Yergler wrote: I've run into a problem this morning with i18n in Zope3, and I'm not exactly sure what the appropriate approach is. We have a set of South African translations, paticularly Zulu (zu) and Sotho (st) that are getting picked up correctly. Upon some inspection it appears that

[Zope-dev] Re: unregistering components?

2007-11-27 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 26 Nov 2007, at 19:22 , Chris Withers wrote: (and I'm guessing there is an ISite somewhere, as I could find no definition of setSiteManager, but how does IComponentArchitecture's getSiteManager relate to that of ISite?) zope.component.getSiteManager() will return whichever component

[Zope-dev] Re: Bug in AbsoluteURL Adapter

2007-11-27 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Sebastian Wehrmann wrote: while using the AbsoluteURL Adapter in a view, By the way, you're using Five's AbsoluteURL adapter. (It's different from the one in Zope 3). Also, the patch below seems to be for Five. Would be good to mention that :). it only returns the path of the object, not

[Zope-dev] Re: Bug in AbsoluteURL Adapter

2007-11-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 28 Nov 2007, at 11:45 , Sebastian Wehrmann wrote: Can you round up a test that demonstrates how the current implementation fails to cover your case and how your suggestion change fixes that? While trying to write a test it turned out, that it's not a problem in Five but in the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Bug in AbsoluteURL Adapter

2007-11-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 28 Nov 2007, at 12:54 , Daniel Havlik wrote: Am 28.11.2007 um 12:01 schrieb Philipp von Weitershausen: The problem we tried to solve was: We have a structure of Plone content objects. We wanted to access a particular one in a view which can be called anywhere. Therefore we registered

[Zope-dev] Re: Additional locales for zope.i18n.locales.data?

2007-11-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martijn Pieters wrote: On Nov 28, 2007 12:29 AM, Nathan Yergler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you follow the wink, http://www.unicode.org/cldr/repository_access.html has the details to the files. Currently the latest is at http://unicode.org/Public/cldr/1.5.0/core.zip. Zope at this point still

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: [Checkins] SVN: z3c.jbot/ Initial import.

2007-11-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Malthe Betreff: [Checkins] SVN: z3c.jbot/ Initial import. Log message for revision 81997: Initial import. [...] + from Products.Five.browser.pagetemplatefile import + ZopeTwoPageTemplateFile I really like what you are doing, cool ideas! But I also have a

[Zope-dev] Re: Frustrated with Python and Frameworks. Zope, Grok, , Django, CherryPy

2007-11-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, On Nov 28, 2007 12:16 AM, Martijn Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could also consider putting them in some kind of collective-like SVN repository so that people can make changes when they need to. I think this is a great idea as it works

[Zope-dev] Re: Frustrated with Python and Frameworks. Zope, Grok, , Django, CherryPy

2007-11-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
sorry, meant to CC [EMAIL PROTECTED], not zope-dev@zope.org Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, On Nov 28, 2007 12:16 AM, Martijn Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could also consider putting them in some kind of collective-like SVN repository

[Zope-dev] Re: getting RestrictedPython working on Python 2.5

2007-12-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, I'm looking to get RestrictedPython working in Python 2.5. Has any work been done on this so far? My first question is about the right way to get a checkout that I can develop in now. In years gone by, I would have created a branch of the whole of zope 3, checked

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: getting RestrictedPython working on Python 2.5

2007-12-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 5 Dec 2007, at 15:46 , Chris Withers wrote: There's python setup.py develop, which will also install the checked out thing as a development egg, What does that mean? Which python files would I edit to make changes in this case? The ones you checked out. This isn't rocket science, you

[Zope-dev] Re: getting RestrictedPython working on Python 2.5

2007-12-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: $ svn co $z/RestrictedPython/trunk RestrictedPython (or a branch) $ cd RestrictedPython $ /your/development/python bootstrap.py $ bin/buildout $ bin/test ($z refers to svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main on my system) Where does this put

[Zope-dev] Re: zopeproject and external apidocs

2007-12-14 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Christophe Combelles wrote: Hi, When creating a buildout with zopeproject, the site.zcml puts the package registration before the apidoc registration: include package=${package} / !-- Remove this reference to disable the APIDoc tool. You should do this for production -- include

[Zope-dev] Missing zope.sendmail changelogs

2007-12-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hi there, zope.sendmail is missing changelog entries for the last two releases. As far as I can tell from the checkins list (which isn't always accurate), these people have last worked on zope.sendmail: * Marius Gedminas * Benji York * Albertas Agejevas It would be cool if they and

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.11] Stepping forward and going beta

2007-12-23 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 18. Dezember 2007 21:53:55 +0100 Hanno Schlichting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: the Zope 2.11 beta phase has been delayed for while. The reason for holding but the release was Philipps and Hannos work on the

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.11] KGS incomplete (Was: Stepping forward and going beta)

2007-12-24 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 24 Dec 2007, at 16:32 , Andreas Jung wrote: WARN: KGS incomplete - zope.app.content_types not found WARN: KGS incomplete - zope.app.event not found WARN: KGS incomplete - zope.app.filerepresentation not found WARN: KGS incomplete - zope.app.location not found WARN: KGS incomplete -

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.11] KGS incomplete (Was: Stepping forward and going beta)

2007-12-26 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 25 Dec 2007, at 10:58 , Andreas Jung wrote: /opt/python-2.4.4/bin/python /Users/ajung_data/sandboxes/Zope/ ajung-2-11-prep-branch/test.py -v Running tests at level 1 Running unit tests: Running: .. rror in test testSetupConfiguredLoggers

[Zope-dev] Re: proxies

2008-01-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, I saw the zope.proxies module and wondered if it might be able to help me with two problems I need to solve: - can these proxies be used to keep track of a traversal path in much the same way (although no seperate containment and context chains needed) as the

[Zope-dev] Re: proxies

2008-01-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
P.S.: This is explained in detail in my book, chapter on containers. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/zope/app/ added various zope.app packages for backward compatibility

2008-01-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Jung wrote: Log message for revision 83064: added various zope.app packages for backward compatibility Wrong branch :/. It's fine for those to be missing from the *trunk*, since they were scheduled for removal for Zope 2.12 anyway. They just need to be there on the 2.11 branch.

Re: [Zope-dev] more on stacked component registries

2008-02-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 5 Feb 2008, at 19:23 , Chris Withers wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Chris Withers wrote: For what I'm after, I need to have a more dynamic buildup of registrations based on which objects have been traversed through. Right. I think the component architecture is not

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.12] Eggification of Zope 2 - pros and cons?

2008-03-24 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Jung wrote: during the latest 'zope.publisher' thread on zope-dev I came up with the proposal to eggify the Zope core for the Zope 2.12 release. I would like to start a discussion about the pros and cons, risks and advantages of any eggification effort. Chris favors a 'big' Zope egg

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.12] Eggification of Zope 2 - pros and cons?

2008-03-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm not sure this is all that useful. For Plone 4, we're just going to have a number of plone.*, plone.app.* and Products.* (and a few others, like kss.*) eggs that we can put in a KGS or version pin in a single Plone egg. For Plone 4

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.12] Eggification of Zope 2 - pros and cons?

2008-03-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: during the latest 'zope.publisher' thread on zope-dev I came up with the proposal to eggify the Zope core for the Zope 2.12 release. I would like to start a discussion about the pros and cons, risks and advantages of any eggification effort

[Zope-dev] Re: Five and browser-oriented components

2008-04-14 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Malthe Borch wrote: On Z2, certain imports need to come from Products.Five, to play nicely with ZPublisher and friends. Not really. You can inherit from zope.publisher.browser.BrowserView and Five's browser:page / directive will magically slap Acquisition.Explicit into a newly-created

[Zope-dev] Re: Five and browser-oriented components

2008-04-14 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: Technically, I think that this is going to be hard. You'd need to patch in the magic acquisition base class. Acquisition is the main reason that some of the code needed to be

[Zope-dev] Re: AQ-Parent branch test failues was: Re: Five and browser-oriented components

2008-04-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Thanks for looking into this, Hanno! Here's my feedback: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: I kept my promise and added the simple tests for the first two issues I found while doing testing against Plone. I have meanwhile fixed the first trivial issue (conflicting argument

[Zope-dev] Re: AQ-Parent branch test failues was: Re: Five and browser-oriented components

2008-04-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: ViewPageTemplateFile etc. are only meant to be used as class attributes, never as instance attributes. This statement is also true for the current, acquisition-based one from Five. Is that documented anywhere? I can't seem

[Zope-dev] Re: Proposal: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk

2008-04-17 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Timeline: I would like to do the merge as soon as possible, so people can easily test it against all their applications and report back problems. Merging it into Zope trunk will get it into the Zope 2.12 release which is at this point not scheduled yet, but is

[Zope-dev] Re: Proposal: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk

2008-04-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: The second problem that might arise, is that the implicit assumption that every object inside Zope 2 inherits from Acquisition base classes no longer holds. Code that relies on the various aq_* attributes to be there need to be adjusted to use the Acquisition methods

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2 eggification [was: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk]

2008-04-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris McDonough wrote: I wonder if Philipp would be amenable to writing a proposal on this, and get Chris McDonough's input. IMO, a Zope2 egg release should depend on the following packages: - 'ZODB3' (already packaged) - 'transaction' (depended on by newer ZODBs) - 'ZConfig' (also depended

[Zope-dev] Re: Proposal: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk

2008-04-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martijn Faassen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: [snip] The second problem that might arise, is that the implicit assumption that every object inside Zope 2 inherits from Acquisition base classes no longer holds. Code that relies on the various aq_* attributes to be there need to be adjusted to use

Re: [Zope.org Redux] Re: [Zope-dev] Let's fix the damned website

2008-04-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 21 Apr 2008, at 11:53 , Martin Aspeli wrote: - Projects gives an explanation of how the different Zope projects fit together (Zope 2, Zope 3, Grok, CMF, ZODB). Each is then given a subfolder that contains a standard structure: A front page that explains the project in more detail, Get

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2 eggification [was: Merge philikon-aq branch into Zope trunk]

2008-04-21 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 19 Apr 2008, at 22:39 , Chris McDonough wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: I wonder if Philipp would be amenable to writing a proposal on this, and get Chris McDonough's input. IMO, a Zope2 egg release should depend on the following packages: - 'ZODB3

[Zope-dev] Re: Why I dislike narrative doctests

2008-04-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - If a file is documentation and a test, make sure it is good documentation. In that case, documentation comes first. Don't add so many tests that it ruins the documentation. - Test edge cases in

[Zope-dev] Re: NotFound

2008-05-13 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Roger Ineichen wrote: Is there a reason why zope.publisher.interfaces.NotFound is not locatable? class NotFound(LookupError, TraversalException): implements(INotFound) def __init__(self, ob, name, request=None): self.ob = ob self.name = name Why should a NotFound

[Zope-dev] Re: i18nmessageid has a broken link

2008-05-13 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Sebastian Wehrmann wrote: the zope.i18nmessageid package has a broken link on http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/zope.i18nmessageid/ . The 'zope.i18nmessageid-3.4.3-py2.4-linux-i686.egg' does not exist any more on pypi. Right. It was deliberately removed because binary eggs should never ever

[Zope-dev] Re: i18nmessageid has a broken link

2008-05-13 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Maurits van Rees wrote: Without having tried pure Zope 3, only Grok --- I have been working on grokproject during the Grokkerdam sprint --- the following in buildout.cfg should work just as well: find-links = http://download.zope.org/distribution/ extends =

[Zope-dev] Re: zope.testing console script

2008-05-15 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tarek Ziadé wrote: If nothing exists, I would like to suggest adding a setuptools console entry point in zope.testing setup.py file, to get a python script in the $PYTHON/bin folder, exactly like what zc.recipe.testrunner does. +1 It could be called zope.testrunner maybe ? (nose= nostests,

[Zope-dev] Re: Five registerPackage results in unresolved ConflictError

2008-05-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Believe something very very rotten in Five's registerPackage was fixed by Rocky in r72986 [1]. As far as I can tell this was never merged to the 1.4 branch, but I could we wrong. [1] http://svn.zope.org/?rev=72986view=rev Sasha Vincic wrote: Forgot to say that this is Zope 2.9.8, Five 1.4

[Zope-dev] Re: Buildout parameter parsing

2008-06-03 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Malthe Borch wrote: I think a valuable extension to the parameter parsing in buildout's configuration language would be to allow += and -= operators, which would append and remove items, respectively. Example: [instance] eggs += Products.PDBDebugMode Singular or plural arguments would be

[Zope-dev] Re: Deciphering Zope Comments

2008-06-04 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Shane Hathaway wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get a handle on Zope 3. I plan to take a bunch of Zope 3 modules and combine them in a new way. The goal is to create for myself a comfortable working environment that lets me run simple code in a small mod_wsgi environment with easy reloading

[Zope-dev] Re: buildbot failure in Zope on zope.pagetemplate

2008-06-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
These failures are due to recent changes to zope.tal (3.5.0) in which the TAL interpreter no longer emits a trailing newline character (and thus finally complies with its own spec). I've fixed this on the zope.pagetemplate trunk now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buildbot has detected a new

[Zope-dev] Re: buildbot failure in Zope on zope.app.twisted

2008-06-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
zope.app.twisted was missing a test dependency (zope.testbrowser) for a level 2 test. Fixed now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buildbot has detected a new failure of zope.app.twisted on Zope. Full details are available at: http://zopebuildbot.whq.gocept.com/zope.app.twisted/builds/97

[Zope-dev] Re: buildbot failure in Zope on zope.app.zptpage

2008-06-07 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Here, the same thing as with zope.pagetemplate happened. zope.tal no longer emits a trailing newline character. Fixed on the trunk. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Buildbot has detected a new failure of zope.app.zptpage on Zope. Full details are available at:

[Zope-dev] Re: git mirror of svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main ?

2008-06-12 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jeff Kowalczyk wrote: I was going to ask this question anyway, but perhaps it's more timely with the scheduled server move: Has anyone made a git clone of svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main suitable for public mirroring on github, etc.? Not that I know of, but there's a read-only SVN mirror:

[Zope-dev] Re: View component registration

2008-06-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jim Fulton wrote: On Jun 18, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Malthe Borch wrote: Currently views are registered as components providing zope.interface.Interface; this is unfortunate since other kinds of components may use the same specification, namely (context, request). Right. This is a historical

[Zope-dev] Re: View component registration

2008-06-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Malthe Borch wrote: Currently views are registered as components providing zope.interface.Interface; this is unfortunate since other kinds of components may use the same specification, namely (context, request). An example of this is ``IAbsoluteURL``; it clashes with the resources view*.

[Zope-dev] Re: View component registration

2008-06-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
David Glick wrote: On Jun 18, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Malthe Borch wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: There's one major problem that I see. What's the backwards compatibility story? I'm sure there are a lot of cases in lots of code where people look up views with a getMultiAdapter, and if we started

[Zope-dev] Re: View component registration

2008-06-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martijn Faassen wrote: One question is what to do for persistent registrations in local sites. I don't imagine they're used a lot, but it'd mean a content upgrade to re-register them, right? The only piece of software that, to my knowledge, can actually *make* local view registrations is

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout on Windows

2008-06-20 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Hey All, I'm trying to run a plone-ish buildout on Windows for a customer, currently getting this: creating zope.proxy copying zope/proxy\proxy.h - zope.proxy error: Python was built with Visual Studio 2003; extensions must be built with a compiler than can generate

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout on Windows

2008-06-22 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 21 Jun 2008, a las 20:15 , Chris Withers escribió: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: This isn't a matter of a binary zope.proxy egg. If you look at the 'zope2' part of your buildout.cfg, you'll see it's actually trying to compile Zope 2 itself (which happens to contain the zope.proxy

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout on Windows

2008-06-22 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martin Aspeli wrote: Chris Withers wrote: Hey All, I'm trying to run a plone-ish buildout on Windows for a customer, currently getting this: creating zope.proxy copying zope/proxy\proxy.h - zope.proxy error: Python was built with Visual Studio 2003; extensions must be built with a compiler

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope3 installation on windows - how?

2008-07-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: And there's once again this mingw32 problem. 4) Next, I tried zopeproject: $ easy_install zopeproject $ zopeproject HelloWorld First, zopeproject does not install the packages into the Python site-packages, That's *intended*. That's, in fact, much better than

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Florian Friesdorf wrote: Hi *, within the scope of google summer of code I am integrating zope 3's PAU with Plone's PAS and further enable (non-AT) content objects as source for users and groups. All functionality is developed in pure zope3, the plone

[Zope-dev] Re: PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-10 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Florian Friesdorf wrote: Hi *, within the scope of google summer of code I am integrating zope 3's PAU with Plone's PAS and further enable (non-AT) content objects as source for users

[Zope-dev] Re: how many checkin lists?!

2008-07-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, Just me, or is it excessive that we have: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-checkins/ This one is obsolete now. http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-checkins/ This one is for Zope 2 only. http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/checkins/ This one covers the

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] PAULA: bringing Zope 3's authentication to Plone and beyond

2008-07-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: Mark Hammond wrote: Well, Zope moved onwards from PAS to PAU I doubt that seriously: I would venture that there are two orders of magnitude more users of PAS than PAU in production deployments. PAU was an attempt to port the PAS to a component-centric implementation, but

[Zope-dev] Re: No events in zope.annotation

2008-07-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: Hi everyone, I just tried to create a catalog for an annotation and noticed that it does not get filled. Digging around in the zope.annotation package, I noticed that the zope.annotation package does not send out any object events. This sucks. ;-) Thus I propose: -

[Zope-dev] Re: No events in zope.annotation

2008-07-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Fred Drake wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus I propose: - Add ObjectCreatedEvent event notification to zope.annotation factory call. By this, I presume you mean the stuff in

[Zope-dev] Please use 'svn mv'

2008-07-18 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
I would like to remind everyone that when you do refactorings and move code around, to please use 'svn mv' or 'svn cp'. For instance, when you split a large file into two smaller ones, use 'svn cp' to create the second file and then remove stuff from it that doesn't go there. That way, version

[Zope-dev] Re: Utility factory handling for zope.component

2008-07-23 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 23 July 2008, Wichert Akkerman wrote: If there are no objections I intend to merge the branch to trunk in a few days I am uncomfortable with the way you approached this. I think there are at least two other possibilities

[Zope-dev] Re: Running the 3.4 KGS tests: 9 fail, 6 errors

2008-07-27 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Shane Hathaway wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: I think I'll run the test suite again on a 64-bit Linux machine, for extra fun. And maybe do that for Python 2.4 as well. zope.proxy and related modules failed badly under 64 bit Python 2.5 until I fixed the C code on the trunk 2 weeks ago,

[Zope-dev] Re: bad zope.size to remove from PyPI

2008-08-01 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Christophe Combelles wrote: could someone remove this package from the PyPI : http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.size/3.4dev-r73090 This is an empty development version, considered more recent by PyPI than the latest released version 3.4.0. (which is r78211) Done. In case anybody's wondering

[Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zope.release/branches/3.4/ * Added latest version of zope.app.security to avoid deprecation

2008-08-01 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Christophe Combelles wrote: Stephan Richter a écrit : On Friday 01 August 2008, Christophe Combelles wrote: Did you miss the CHANGES.txt in zope.release ? We have two histories now. Nope, but that file tracks the package -- source code -- changes of zope.release. I wanted a separate file

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: bad zope.size to remove from PyPI

2008-08-02 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
El 2 Aug 2008, a las 17:45 , Chris Withers escribió: Benji York wrote: In case anybody's wondering how this complies with our no removal of any release whatsoever policy [1], be assured that a 3.4dev-r73090 thing isn't a release by our standards. This version number not only contains the

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