Re: [Zope-dev] Unique and Contant object IDs

2000-10-24 Thread Steve Waterbury

Ty Sarna wrote:

> Unfortunately there are a lot of things that Zope just can't do because
> there is no way to get a persistent "ticket" for an object that can be
> handed out to some external system, and then later redeemed for the
> (properly wrapped) object. Pathnames are not useful, because they don't
> last for the object's lifetime.

Hmmm ... what you describe sounds a lot like an ILU "string 
binding handle" -- see

http://www-db.stanford.edu/~testbed/ilu/ilu20doc/manual_1.html#SEC10

ILU does have a Python binding, and I've been thinking that ILU 
and Zope might have a lot of potential if used together ... it 
could make Zope "multi-lingual"  :^)  Has anyone thought of 
doing anything with the two together?  

Cheers,
-- Steve.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Meaning :-S

2000-10-23 Thread Steve Waterbury

Chris Withers wrote:
> 
> Ken Manheimer wrote:
> >
> > Python Zopelet
> > Perl Zopelet
> > XSLT Zopelet
> >
> > Zope-specific, runs on the server, shows the implementation language,
> > won't be confused with non-remotely-editable functions, methods, scripts,
> > code in general.
> 
> ... Zopelet means absolutely nothing, and will just add to
> confusion :-(

I agree with Ken: I think it's a good choice because it *is* 
Zope-specific -- I think Zope should be in the name.  If you 
are using Zope, it will be meaningful; if not, it won't -- and 
shouldn't be.  

I also think "Zopelet" does not "mean absolutely nothing" 
in terms of connotation -- it carries the connotations that 
Ken mentioned, which is good.  

My $0.02.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Python and Perl scripts

2000-10-20 Thread Steve Waterbury

Michel Pelletier wrote:

> 



> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > descriptive.  Widget has technical meaning.  Perhaps task or job are
> > suitable, as in
> > Safe Python Task
> > Safe Python Job
> > Safe Python Subtask
> > Safe Python Function
> > Safe Python Script
> >
> > Then external methods, which are often also not methods, can become
> > Flexible Python Task
> > Flexible Python Job
> > Flexible Python Subtask
> > Flexible Python Function
> > Flexible Python Script
> >
> > But if you really want to use
> > Tame Snake Thingy, and
> > Wild Snake Thingy,
> > go ahead, but please do not credit me in the documentation!

> Documents, Templates and Scripts
> or
> Documents, Templates and Methods

I REALLY like Thingy!  And a very Pythonesque choice it would 
be ... :^)  Python Thingies and Perl Thingies.  How nice to be 
so connotationless!  ... but maybe not so connotationless ... 
recalling the usage of "thingy" in the Python, Monty oeuvre 
("YOU know ... THINGY!!") ... you might want to consider

Tame Snake Sex, and 
Wild Snake Sex, 

so then you have 
Documents, Templates, and Sex

Python Sex vs. Perl Sex? ... wow, just think of it!  
Of course, alibis about working late would have to be 
carefully worded ...

Sorry ... it's late on a Friday ... but I DO like Thingy!  :^)

Cheers,
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