Re: [Zope-dev] TypesTool speedup

2007-03-05 Thread Tres Seaver
-Zope2-specific package with an 'Extensions' directory!), then make it a product, dangit. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Tres Seaver
restrictions, even for the superuser) Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

[Zope-dev] Re: mvcc related error?

2007-03-13 Thread Tres Seaver
, in _load_before_or_conflict Module ZODB.Connection, line 814, in _setstate_noncurrent AssertionError This is on Zope 2.9.4. Any ideas? Have you looked at the code? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL

[Zope-dev] Announcing the Release of Zope version 2.8.9.1

2007-03-29 Thread Tres Seaver
2.4 and can cause trouble when using Python 2.4. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

[Zope-dev] Re: Sessions and long requests = conflicts? Mcdutils?

2007-04-11 Thread Tres Seaver
causes conflict errors in such situation). I found 'mcdutils' too. Tres Seaver said on zope-dev (a long time ago) that it is supposed to have no conflict errors: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2006-May/027555.html Mcdutils: http://agendaless.com/Members/tseaver/software/mcdutils

[Zope-dev] Re: Sessions and long requests = conflicts? Mcdutils?

2007-04-12 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: unit tests

2007-04-12 Thread Tres Seaver
is likely that they are real unit tests, and therefore don't depend on having the product's 'initialize' method run (if they did, they would be *integration* or *functional* tests). Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999

[Zope-dev] Re: ZClassNG proposal makes Archetypes Easy.

2007-04-23 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: many conflict errors

2007-05-25 Thread Tres Seaver
: are you sure you are using the faster machnery? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

[Zope-dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-06-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joachim Schmitz wrote: Tres Seaver schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Not if the sessions being used are from 'faster' -- it doesn't use IOBTree. The major application use of that module is in the catalog. you correct see

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-06-01 Thread Tres Seaver
then inspect the state and do more aggressive conflict resolution than the stock implementation allows (see my other post). Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence

[Zope-dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-06-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joachim Schmitz wrote: Tres Seaver schrieb: BTrees._IOBTree.IOBTree object at 0xb562fadc DateIndex at created Products.ZCatalog.Catalog.Catalog object at 0xb12d622c CatalogTool at portal_catalog CPSDefaultSite at uniben Application

[Zope-dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-06-01 Thread Tres Seaver
then inspect the state and do more aggressive conflict resolution than the stock implementation allows (see my other post). any other shortterm suggestions. QueueCatalog? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL

[Zope-dev] Re: [Bug] ZODB invalidation processing

2007-06-01 Thread Tres Seaver
tasks). How many of the front-end servers do writes? Or are all your visitors potential writers? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp

[Zope-dev] Re: QuequeCatalog and GenericSetup

2007-06-19 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: State of 'Zope211-3.4-integration' branch

2007-06-21 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: Resolution of issue #2333 before next maintenance release(s)?

2007-06-25 Thread Tres Seaver
. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG

[Zope-dev] Re: State of 'Zope211-3.4-integration' branch

2007-06-25 Thread Tres Seaver
? And won't we therefore get Jim's fix? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6

[Zope-dev] Re: Resolution of issue #2333 before next maintenance release(s)?

2007-06-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tres Seaver wrote: Tim Hicks wrote: Hi, Apparently a maintenance release for 2.10 is imminent. Would it be possible for someone to review the report for issue #2333 @: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2333. The fix provided there comes

[Zope-dev] Re: State of 'Zope211-3.4-integration' branch

2007-06-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: --On 25. Juni 2007 12:56:08 -0400 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: --On 25. Juni 2007 13:00:38 +0200 Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6

[Zope-dev] Re: State of 'Zope211-3.4-integration' branch

2007-06-26 Thread Tres Seaver
3.3 branch then? Don't we need a released 3.3.x? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

[Zope-dev] Re: Fix for request must be post at Take Ownership

2007-07-05 Thread Tres Seaver
/Zope/tags/2.10.3/lib/python/AccessControl/Owned.py Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

[Zope-dev] Re: vulnerability in zope 2.10.4

2007-07-11 Thread Tres Seaver
was added to Zope). The model you have in mind governs untrusted (through-the-web) code, whether ZPT, DTML, or Python Script, and isn't relevant to Five views. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL

[Zope-dev] Re: compiling intSet.c on Zope 2.8.8

2007-08-09 Thread Tres Seaver
' directory from a Zope 2.7 checkout into your $SOFTWARE_HOME/lib. Copy the 'setup.py' from Zope 2.7, and hack it apart to include only the bits which built the old BTrees. Then run that new setup_old_btrees.py script. Tres. - -- === Tres

Re: [Zope-dev] Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad

2007-08-13 Thread Tres Seaver
redirected automagically to the corresponding launchpad URL: there are too many changelog entries, etc., which refer to the current collector URLs. It should be possible to do this with some kind of traversal hook. Tres. - -- === Tres

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-25 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: --On 25. August 2007 12:33:41 -0400 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, perhaps the sun burned too long on my brain today but I investigated some

[Zope-dev] Re: More resilient indexes

2007-09-17 Thread Tres Seaver
instead? Check out QueueCatalog, which batches up indexing changes for processing within a single thread. svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Products.QueueCatalog Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED

[Zope-dev] Re: security problem in an monkey-patch

2007-09-19 Thread Tres Seaver
', with the value being a tuple, ('Manager',) (unless you want to figure out how to create a PermissionRoles object yourself). Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence

[Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope (2) collector to launchpad.

2007-09-27 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] Re: Moving the Zope (2) collector to launchpad.

2007-09-27 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: --On 27. September 2007 10:07:06 -0400 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have lost some history in there, at least for recent updates to the Zope2 version: - http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2287, which I accepted

[Zope-dev] Re: Changing DateTime to use pytz

2007-10-04 Thread Tres Seaver
to the older code) is a sensible compromise. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6

[Zope-dev] Re: I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-08 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: Any objections? This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. +1. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver

[Zope-dev] Re: zcml entry points

2007-10-17 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: zcml entry points

2007-10-18 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: zcml entry points

2007-10-18 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: I may not *want* the other package's ZCML to be loaded: some of its policies may not be appropriate for my application. I think that the library vs. pluggable application distinction is valid here

[Zope-dev] Re: zcml entry points

2007-10-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: [snip] So I turned things around: if I state in my egg information that I require another package that means I need to have that package available and functional. Which suggests

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/ Moved two implements declarations from Five into the proper classes.

2007-10-21 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: zcml entry points

2007-10-22 Thread Tres Seaver
') ... xmlconfig(stream) [1] http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#dynamic-discovery-of-services-and-plugins [2] http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PythonEggs#accessing-package-resources Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/DateTime/ tidy up legacy time zones

2007-10-23 Thread Tres Seaver
misses; otherwise we risk breaking old pickles. Amos, can you confirm? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: zope.app.dependable/trunk/setup.py Silly version bump.

2007-10-23 Thread Tres Seaver
', author_email='[EMAIL PROTECTED]', description='Simple Dependency API', Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN

[Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] zcml entry points

2007-10-24 Thread Tres Seaver
out, is what is left policy-heavy or policy-light? I don't want to have to override *any* policy imposed by a library, unless I specifically choose to enable that policy in the first place. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1

[Zope-dev] OFS.Image.File thrashes ZODB Connection Cache

2007-10-25 Thread Tres Seaver
this problem (assuming that OFS.Image.File is updated to take advantage of blobs). Also, as I note in the issue, the fix doesn't help the thrashing of the disk-based cache used by ZEO client connections. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/DateTime/tests/testDateTime.py Fix test. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

2007-10-27 Thread Tres Seaver
be reverted to preserve the old behavior, which may be relied on by third-party applications. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/trunk/lib/python/DateTime/tests/testDateTime.py Fix test. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

2007-10-30 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Laurence Rowe wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: --On 27. Oktober 2007 18:01:25 -0400 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DateTime('2006-01-01')._tz 'US/Eastern' Yeah, that's completely odd. But standards compliant. The previous behaviour

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope on Python 2.5?

2007-11-01 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: Zope on Python 2.5?

2007-11-02 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zope.file/trunk/ Make a good package out of this package.

2007-11-02 Thread Tres Seaver
'setup.py test'. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: zope.file/trunk/ Make a good package out of this package.

2007-11-02 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.i18n/trunk/setup.py vb

2007-11-04 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-08 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: bug in ZopePageTemplate.py?

2007-11-09 Thread Tres Seaver
your file before calling the 'super' version, and pass its contents through as 'text', along with your desired 'content_type'. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software

[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-09 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: AW: Re: Grok 0.11 released!

2007-11-10 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: A KGS needs to have the following properties: - The generation zero of any KGS is an empty set of revisions. - By default, any revision N of a KGS starts out as a draft version which

[Zope-dev] Re: Hivurt code hosting

2007-11-12 Thread Tres Seaver
to add new committers at all. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU

[Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-12 Thread Tres Seaver
transaction: the 'index_url' setting in a pacakge setup.py only governs where setuptools goes to find packages which are dependencies of that package. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED

[Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-13 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: If I specify index as above, how do I get other packages which may not appear in that index? You install them in a separate transaction: the 'index_url' setting in a pacakge setup.py only governs where

[Zope-dev] Re: why external version indexes don't fulfill all use cases for development

2007-11-14 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: I've never known of transactions in anything to do with setuptools... I wasn't literally referring to a transaction, in the ZODB sense -- I meant, install using a separate run of easy_install'. Unless I'm

[Zope-dev] Re: mapping from collector numbers to launchpad numbers?

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Gr. I find setup.py test to be really annoying as it requires meta data that is available only to that command. Not after running 'egg_info', or any other setuptools-aware

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Chris is not advocating switching away from zc.buildout for the *development* of the packages; he is arguing that we can't force people who *use* the packages to stop using

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tres Seaver wrote: You are correct: I was misled by the presence of the section for the 'tests' extra. Attached find a patch against the setuptools-0.6 branch which addes a 'tests_require.txt' file entry point. I will propose that the patch

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
, that is what 'tests_require' is for; buildout doesn't (yet) have such a spelling (I think). In order to succeed here, we are going to have to quit releasing packages without more careful thought, testing, etc. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver

[Zope-dev] Re: KGS Site Updated

2007-11-19 Thread Tres Seaver
produce as download.zope.org/zope3.4. But I have explained this multiple times before, so I am not going to repeat the argument any more. Please try buildout and see for yourself. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999

[Zope-dev] Re: KGS Site Updated

2007-11-19 Thread Tres Seaver
the corresponding distributiongs and make a package index via: $ bin/compoze fetch --fetch-site-packages --path=/tmp/kgs \ index --path=/tmp/kgs Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED

[Zope-dev] Re: does zope 3 still have a restricted python environment?

2007-11-19 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: KGS Site Updated

2007-11-19 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: It's a limitation of buildout, perhaps. It is possible to use setuptools with multiple indexes: 'compoze' allows spelling multiple '-index-url' items on the command line. E.g

[Zope-dev] Re: zope.traversing dependencies

2007-11-20 Thread Tres Seaver
? And then change 'zope.applicationcontrol' to register such a utility? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP

[Zope-dev] Re: zope.traversing dependencies

2007-11-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Lotze wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: +100 to shedding the dependencies. Could we have the conditional import work as a fallback to a utility lookup? And then change 'zope.applicationcontrol' to register such a utility? This should

[Zope-dev] Re: zope.traversing dependencies

2007-11-22 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Lotze wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: zope.app.applicationcontrol.interfaces.IApplicationControl which may not be available either after the dependency on zope.app.applicationcontrol has been lifted. Hmm, I guess I hadn't realized

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: z3c.discriminator/ Initial import.

2007-11-24 Thread Tres Seaver
-24 22:46:56 UTC (rev 81979) @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +[egg_info] +tag_build = dev +tag_svn_revision = true Please *don't* check in this file -- we do not want to encourage making or releasing 'dev.-r' eggs. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver

[Zope-dev] Re: Additional locales for zope.i18n.locales.data?

2007-11-28 Thread Tres Seaver
the dependency problem from NIH: in this case, zope.i18n predates the NIH package by *years* (the i18n support was the topic of the *first* extra-mural Zope3 sprint, in January of 2002). Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: ZODB/branches/3.8/src/ZODB/Mount.py Removed untested, unused, and obsolete Mount module.

2007-12-19 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: Should zope.annotation.factory send ObjectAddedEvent?

2007-12-21 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: five.customerize

2007-12-21 Thread Tres Seaver
which already has that package as a dependency. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.11] KGS incomplete (Was: Stepping forward and going beta)

2007-12-24 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/branches/ajung-2-11-prep-branch/lib/python/

2007-12-24 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: Log message for revision 82431: pinning zdaemon package to r40972 (as used on the current HEAD) Why wouldn't we move to using the 2.0.1 tag? - -- === Tres

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: Zope/branches/ajung-2-11-prep-branch/lib/python/

2007-12-24 Thread Tres Seaver
:-) I'll see if I can't hack it up, then. I'll make the ZODB externals point to the release candidate tag, while I'm at it. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.11] KGS incomplete (Was: Stepping forward and going beta)

2007-12-27 Thread Tres Seaver
to the global regsitries maintained by the Python logging module. I *strongly* doubt that test for emptying those registries is sane, at this point (those registries are insane, to start with). Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.11] Stepping forward and going beta

2007-12-28 Thread Tres Seaver
of a different solution for merging or going forward with the aq_vs_parent branch. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope 2.11] KGS incomplete (Was: Stepping forward and going beta)

2007-12-28 Thread Tres Seaver
errors go away: essentially, one test was leaving garbage log handlers around. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Tests: 4 OK, 1 Failed

2007-12-29 Thread Tres Seaver
; patches have been sent to the mechanize project. Benji, do you think we could get a 3.4.3 (or 3.5, if that is what is needed) released to include that fix? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL

[Zope-dev] Re: five.customerize

2008-01-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn Faassen wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: That said, I suppose this should be either a conditional import or moved to a higher level altogether. - -1 to the conditional import; + 1 to moving the code. Agree

[Zope-dev] Re: zope2 webdav memory usage...

2008-01-14 Thread Tres Seaver
/VolatileAttributeLifetimeGarantee Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux

[Zope-dev] Re: Acquisition in Python2.5

2008-01-21 Thread Tres Seaver
with the recommended version Python 2.4.4. Andreas, Nikhil is the person working on 2.5 compabibility: don't blow him off! Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence

[Zope-dev] Re: Acquisition in Python2.5

2008-01-21 Thread Tres Seaver
2.5 define new rich comparison slots, or something? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Acquisition in Python2.5

2008-01-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: --On 21. Januar 2008 14:29:39 -0500 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: --On 21. Januar 2008 11:44:28 +0530 Nikhil N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello

[Zope-dev] Re: Acquisition in Python2.5

2008-01-21 Thread Tres Seaver
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[Zope-dev] Re: Acquisition in Python2.5

2008-01-21 Thread Tres Seaver
during the test. QED. The Python 2.5 release notes don't talk about any changes to comparison slots for C extensions: I'm not sure what could have changed. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL

[Zope-dev] Re: Acquisition in Python2.5

2008-01-21 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tres Seaver wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Two wrappers compare equal, so the code comparing an AQ wrapper with something different should be the one with the problem. I'd look into Wrapper_compare in _Acquisition.c. Under 2.5, that function

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-egg to stitch together their own packages. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-02-01 Thread Tres Seaver
-egg to stitch together their own packages. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope Tests: 5 OK, 1 Failed

2008-02-02 Thread Tres Seaver
]) I can't reproduce that on my 2.0 branch checkout. A transient failure in the Transience product tests? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp

[Zope-dev] Re: pinning, nailing and kgs'ing

2008-02-03 Thread Tres Seaver
scripts (I normally use a virtualenv, which means I don't need to worry about munging the path in each script). Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Design

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 3 without ZODB

2008-02-15 Thread Tres Seaver
://svn.repoze.org/repoze.kiss/trunk/ [3] http://svn.repoze.org/repoze.zope2/trunk/ Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN

[Zope-dev] Re: Removing ThreadedAsync from ZODB

2008-02-18 Thread Tres Seaver
dependent applications should be able to use it without problems. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

[Zope-dev] Re: SVN: zope.server/trunk/ Removed the dependency on ZODB3 (and zope.thread).

2008-02-18 Thread Tres Seaver
'], + 'ZODB3', +], include_package_data = True, zip_safe = False, entry_points = Looks like the dependency is still there. ;) Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1

[Zope-dev] Backporting Zope3 bugfixes

2008-02-22 Thread Tres Seaver
with these backports should be simpler: only the package requiring the backport should need to be re-released. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp

[Zope-dev] Re: Mailinglists on Launchpad

2008-02-24 Thread Tres Seaver
). - The switching cost problem is still not solved for the collectors, either, Note that I'm not bashing the choice to move the collectors: I do want us to think harder about going further down that path, however. Tres. - -- === Tres

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout-based buildbot back

2008-03-04 Thread Tres Seaver
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