[Zope-dev] zc.async versus Zope 2 SIGTERM

2012-03-01 Thread Christian Theune
The first issue (fast shutdown) you can avoid by simply not sending SIGTERM and switching to always use SIGINT. (For some reason zdaemon seems to do that by default when sending SIGTERM to the daemon manager.) The second issue seems like a bad thing. Right? Any comments? Christian -- Christian

[Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
could leverage right away. Especially as multiple orthogonal components (like: your application and the ZMI) need to leverage this plugin point, I'd rather have this provided by the framework. I couldn't find an argument anywhere why ++skin++ should be gone. Christian -- Christian Theune · c

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
into the new ZMI project I find it to be the most light-weight approach without adding an extra dependency. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
application that runs in a separate skin. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting, development, hosting, operations

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting, development, hosting, operations ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting, development, hosting, operations ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] Revert removal of ++skin++ in Zope4?

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
On 11/16/2011 11:30 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I'd like to revert the removal of the ++skin++ traverser in Zope 4. As we're working on a replacement ZMI at a sprint currently (more details about that in a bit) we'd like to leverage this feature. From my perspective, I value

[Zope-dev] Zope 4 ZMI sprint report

2011-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
. Cheers, Christian Theune (and Charlie Clark, Veit Schiele, Yvo Schubbe, Jens Vagelpohl) [1] In case you haven't heard, we're in the process of renaming this to Python Software Verband - Germany's Python Software Foundation. So PySV will be showing up instead of DZUG in the future. [2

Re: [Zope-dev] Please, if you port to Python 3, port to 23

2011-05-08 Thread Christian Theune
on the Python 3 port of zc.buildout at the last Sprint we didn't even find it overly challenging to also keep Python 2.4 in the loop. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0

Re: [Zope-dev] [buildout] private releases

2011-03-30 Thread Christian Theune
required. So those solutions then require you to put the password for accessing it somewhere during deployment ... where is that for you? -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49

[Zope-dev] 1st DZUG Sprint 2011

2011-03-25 Thread Christian Theune
information in English, feel free to respond to this post or contact me personally. Best regards, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone

Re: [Zope-dev] We need to get the board green

2011-03-23 Thread Christian Theune
change my lair now ... -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting, development, hosting, operations

Re: [Zope-dev] Sprints at PyCon

2011-03-18 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On 03/18/2011 04:47 AM, Chris McDonough wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 09:13 +0100, Christian Theune wrote: Hi Guys, On 02/10/2011 07:07 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I'll be at PyCon during the sprints. As promised from the tasks last year, I'd be happy to organize Zope sprinting

Re: [Zope-dev] proposed ZNagios changes

2011-03-14 Thread Christian Theune
don't have any relevant opinion on the changes ;) Same here - specifically for the Munin stuff. P.S. I use http://pypi.python.org/pypi/munin.zope these days. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel

Re: [Zope-dev] Sprints at PyCon

2011-03-13 Thread Christian Theune
Hi Guys, On 02/10/2011 07:07 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I'll be at PyCon during the sprints. As promised from the tasks last year, I'd be happy to organize Zope sprinting activity. Who's coming? Who's interested? Any topic suggestions? Sorry for not updating earlier - I was recovering

Re: [Zope-dev] Sprints at PyCon

2011-02-16 Thread Christian Theune
to make changes! Cool, thanks! -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope

[Zope-dev] Sprints at PyCon

2011-02-09 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I'll be at PyCon during the sprints. As promised from the tasks last year, I'd be happy to organize Zope sprinting activity. Who's coming? Who's interested? Any topic suggestions? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale

Re: [Zope-dev] adduser command: give feedback about success

2011-01-08 Thread Christian Theune
. Is it okay if I do this? Sounds bearable given what we have. :) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

[Zope-dev] Stopping weekly meetings, moving towards sprints

2010-12-21 Thread Christian Theune
that are interesting to people. Our current goal is to get together during March for 3 days, probably in Berlin. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889

Re: [Zope-dev] Stopping weekly meetings, moving towards sprints

2010-12-21 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On 12/21/2010 10:05 PM, Chris McDonough wrote: Thanks for giving it a shot Christian! I always read the meeting notes, if I didn't participate. Thanks, good to know that. :) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http

[Zope-dev] Weekly meeting

2010-12-20 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I'm back from vacation (for a few days until the holidays kick in). :) I'm still getting back on track and I'll be online tomorrow but won't be able to prepare much. Whatever you want to talk about I'll be happy to discuss. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co

Re: [Zope-dev] Draft of new aggregator

2010-12-01 Thread Christian Theune
list should stay as it is. +1 Perhaps even a blank line between groups would help accentuate the groupings. I thought about that, too. However, there's no homogeneous syntax currently in place that defines the groups. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg

[Zope-dev] Bug day and IRC meeting

2010-11-30 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, today is bug day and I've been hacking away on the nightly test result aggregator script a bit to make the output more readable for the large number of results we get every night. Also, I'll be around for the 3pm UTC IRC meeting today. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com

[Zope-dev] Draft of new aggregator

2010-11-30 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, here's a shot at a new format of the aggregated mails. My focus on this draft was: - allow dealing with *lots* of results every day more easily - allow having a graphical overview of how broken something is (group builders by prefix) - have a stable sorting so you can quickly pin-point

Re: [Zope-dev] Bug day and IRC meeting

2010-11-30 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On 11/30/2010 02:43 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, today is bug day and I've been hacking away on the nightly test result aggregator script a bit to make the output more readable for the large number of results we get every night. Also, I'll be around for the 3pm UTC IRC meeting today

Re: [Zope-dev] Draft of new aggregator

2010-11-30 Thread Christian Theune
On 11/30/2010 06:04 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/30/10 16:06 , Christian Theune wrote: Hi, here's a shot at a new format of the aggregated mails. My focus on this draft was: - allow dealing with *lots* of results every day more easily

Re: [Zope-dev] Draft of new aggregator

2010-11-30 Thread Christian Theune
On 11/30/2010 06:04 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/30/10 16:06 , Christian Theune wrote: Hi, here's a shot at a new format of the aggregated mails. My focus on this draft was: - allow dealing with *lots* of results every day more easily

[Zope-dev] Bug day: Tuesday 2010-11-30

2010-11-22 Thread Christian Theune
...@freenode. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev

[Zope-dev] Doodle for bug day

2010-11-16 Thread Christian Theune
-- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev

[Zope-dev] Developer IRC meeting on Tuesday 15:00 UTC

2010-11-12 Thread Christian Theune
script supposed to appear ... ;) - summit goals We'll probably not be able to touch all of that, so I suppose we pick the issues depending on who participates. See you next week at 15:00 UTC (watch your local winter time adjustments!) on #z...@freenode. Christian -- Christian Theune · c

Re: [Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-11 Thread Christian Theune
a brief README.txt to show how it's used; there's a more extensive doctest inside the package. Cool, thanks! -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-10 Thread Christian Theune
for - would be great if you found the time to release it. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-10 Thread Christian Theune
zope.exceptions.log.Formatter max-size 50MB old-files 5 /logfile I'd like to keep this out of the server: rotation is a system administration task where I'd like to rely on the policies and tools provided by the system environment. Christian -- Christian Theune · c

[Zope-dev] logrotation/logreopening in ZTK-based applications

2010-11-09 Thread Christian Theune
.) Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC

2010-11-04 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On 10/29/2010 03:26 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, for next week's meeting (#zope on freenode, as always) I propose to hear from the PloneConf, check with the summit goals, and follow up on the bicycle toolkit again (Charlie, you coming?) Hmm. It's either been DST confusion or Plone

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.18n:translate() keyword arguments versus MessageID attributes

2010-10-29 Thread Christian Theune
On 10/29/2010 08:26 AM, Michael Howitz wrote: Am 27.10.2010 um 08:52 schrieb Christian Theune: On 10/27/2010 08:44 AM, Michael Howitz wrote: [...] +1 But the `mapping` attribute should update the existing mapping of the message ID as this would allow to have a partial mapping stored

[Zope-dev] Sprints in 2011

2010-10-29 Thread Christian Theune
/ZopeSprints2011 If you're interested in anything related to Zope software that you'd like to work together with other people during the next year, then please talk to me, tell me what the topic is and when and where you'd prefer a sprint. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC

2010-10-29 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, for next week's meeting (#zope on freenode, as always) I propose to hear from the PloneConf, check with the summit goals, and follow up on the bicycle toolkit again (Charlie, you coming?) Christian ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.18n:translate() keyword arguments versus MessageID attributes

2010-10-27 Thread Christian Theune
On 10/27/2010 08:44 AM, Michael Howitz wrote: Am 26.10.2010 um 16:13 schrieb Tres Seaver: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/26/2010 09:36 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I've fiddled a bit with https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zope.i18n/+bug/592753 and ended up

Re: [Zope-dev] Bug day and developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-10-27 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On 10/26/2010 09:14 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Today is a bug day and the weekly developer meeting. I haven't managed to write up the log from last week, but basically Jim, me, and some others talked about about the need for being able to communicate/document architecture/design

[Zope-dev] Bug day and developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-10-26 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Today is a bug day and the weekly developer meeting. I haven't managed to write up the log from last week, but basically Jim, me, and some others talked about about the need for being able to communicate/document architecture/design decisions well - we didn't find the grand solution,

[Zope-dev] zope.18n:translate() keyword arguments versus MessageID attributes

2010-10-26 Thread Christian Theune
documentation that explains the situation (what is happening and why) or - make the parameters take precendence over the message id attributes So - why not do the latter? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http

[Zope-dev] My bug day wrap-up

2010-10-26 Thread Christian Theune
to have happened during the large rename/restructure back in 2003. So, what's up for everyone else who joined the bug day? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345

[Zope-dev] Bug day next tuesday, 2010-10-26

2010-10-19 Thread Christian Theune
to be able to contribute something if you don't try to fit the whole day into your probably busy schedule. We'll hang out, as always, on IRC at #z...@freenode. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel

[Zope-dev] My plans for bug day: zope.i18n

2010-10-19 Thread Christian Theune
on this? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting TODAY at 15:00 UTC

2010-10-15 Thread Christian Theune
discussion/explanation it will help you actually achieve something on the bug day if you understand what's going on and what needs to be done - that's going to be much more satisfying. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC

2010-10-15 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, here's the reminder and agenda for next week's meeting: We'll meet, as always, in #z...@freenode at 15:00 UTC. Topics will be: - Follow-up on summit goals - Planning the next bug day - The bicycle toolkit I hope you enjoy your weekend and see you next week, Christian

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Toolkit 1.0 release

2010-10-14 Thread Christian Theune
the door. Indeed. I'm happy to see this happen. :) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting TODAY at 15:00 UTC

2010-10-12 Thread Christian Theune
Gah. Editing old posts ... :) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-07 Thread Christian Theune
- UNKNOWN Status details can be found here: http://example.com/zopetests/2010-01-12-00:30:15.html \= SNAP -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC

2010-10-05 Thread Christian Theune
hope I am back in time but if not can I ask Adam to step in? Sure thing. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC

2010-10-04 Thread Christian Theune
Sigh, On 10/01/2010 03:50 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Good afternoon, another developer meeting is coming up next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC. Me bad. My scheduling isn't good enough it seems. I need to be on the road at 3pm UTC today and won't be there. :/ Charlie? -- Christian Theune · c

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC

2010-10-01 Thread Christian Theune
Good afternoon, another developer meeting is coming up next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC. As the discussion about the goals that were established during the last meeting didn't get a conclusion last time, I'll pick it up again. I'd also like to review the bug day as it seems there was only little

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC

2010-09-30 Thread Christian Theune
if they seem AWOL). Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC

2010-09-28 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On 09/24/2010 07:56 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Good evening, another developer meeting is coming up next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC. During the meta-discussion this week Charlie mentioned that we really need to keep following up on the issues/goals/topics that were identified during

Re: [Zope-dev] Good news: ZODB will work with Python 2.7 (was Re: Heads up: ZODB probably won't work with Python 2.7)

2010-09-24 Thread Christian Theune
On 09/24/2010 05:16 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: Thanks to Tim Peters for helping me figure out the fix. Cheers for Tim! :) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1

[Zope-dev] Summary from the summit

2010-09-24 Thread Christian Theune
into more of the patterns and DDD community and I'm hoping to explore some of their good ideas (not the architecture astronaut ones) but that's a separate story from this post ... -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC

2010-09-24 Thread Christian Theune
Good evening, another developer meeting is coming up next Tuesday at 15:00 UTC. During the meta-discussion this week Charlie mentioned that we really need to keep following up on the issues/goals/topics that were identified during the summit. So, before returning to pure maintenance topics

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-09-20 Thread Christian Theune
the meeting itself. See you later, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

[Zope-dev] No weekly meeting today, summary of summit

2010-09-14 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, there's not weekly meeting today where Charlie or I will attend as most of us are at the (closing) summit and move to the DZUG conference afterwards. I'll post a summary of the summit in the near future. :) Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg

Re: [Zope-dev] September bugday

2010-08-31 Thread Christian Theune
Hi there, On 08/24/2010 05:34 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, and here's the Doodle for the next bug day. I've moved it further away than 4 weeks as many people seem to join us at the summit and the conference and we figured we don't want this to overlap and give people a quiet week

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-31 Thread Christian Theune
Hi again, our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC. I'd like to catch up with topics that have been in limbo for a while: - Supporting Python 2.7 - Abandoned projects - Windows compiler licenses Does anybody else have other topics? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.appsetup and RootErrorReportingUtility

2010-08-31 Thread Christian Theune
=False, that means if your app is *really* hosed you don't get the error logged to the usual error.log or event.log and are also *unable* to access the UI of the utility. Anyone objects a change to copy_to_zlog=True as default? +1 -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-31 Thread Christian Theune
be there either, but I'll ask Charlie whether he can take over. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-24 Thread Christian Theune
Hi again, our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC. I had a request that we talk about the buildbot organization and I'd also like to review the bug day. Does anybody else have other topics? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29

[Zope-dev] Bug day reports

2010-08-24 Thread Christian Theune
Hi everyone, last week was a bug day and I'd like to repeat the exercise from last time: it would be nice if everyone who was involved in some way to speak up and say what they worked on. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-18 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, looks like my announcement was too late already. Hanno was there and we chatted a bit, one of the outcomes was his update mail which you already received. See you on the bug day tomorrow, or next week at the weekly meeting! Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-18 Thread Christian Theune
of the week. Ouh! Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-17 Thread Christian Theune
Hi again, late, but here it is: We have an IRC meeting coming up in about an hour. Topics, if nothing else comes up, will be - upcoming bug day - test noise reduction - how to choose topics for the weekly meeting Hope to see you later, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-08-10 at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-11 Thread Christian Theune
Hi there, On 08/10/2010 02:16 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi everyone, today's another meeting coming up. and here's the notes from yesterday's meeting: The DZUG conference will get some more announcements through the Python conference advertisement channels. The summit preparation

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: ETag support for zope.browserresource

2010-08-10 Thread Christian Theune
/caching/IOPS. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.i18nmessageid 3.5.3 released (windows binaries needed)

2010-08-10 Thread Christian Theune
. Would someone be kind enough to build and upload new Windows binaries? Hmm. There should be dragons here that take care of that automatically if I understood the wineggbuilder correctly. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-08-10 at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-10 Thread Christian Theune
minutes): http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100810.html Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-08-02 at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-05 Thread Christian Theune
it. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-08-02 at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-02 Thread Christian Theune
://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100803.html Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-08-02 at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-02 Thread Christian Theune
On 08/02/2010 04:51 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi everyone, tomorrow's the weekly IRC meeting. That's 2010-08-03 of course ... -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49

Re: [Zope-dev] unit test policy questions

2010-07-29 Thread Christian Theune
the test_suite function in many cases. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-27 at 15:00 UTC

2010-07-28 Thread Christian Theune
! Is there a list of talks online where we can get the links to the Zope-related ones, maybe even slides, from? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone

[Zope-dev] EP reports

2010-07-28 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Charlie already send a report from his EP visit. If anybody else visited and found something relevant for the rest of us (talks? sprints? interesting discussion topics that popped up?) then I'd like to invite you to share your thoughts! Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-27 at 15:00 UTC

2010-07-28 Thread Christian Theune
. No decisions were made but we can probably use some of it as an input for the summit. See the IRC log if you're interested in the full 20 minutes. http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100727.html Cheers, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-27 at 15:00 UTC

2010-07-27 Thread Christian Theune
. Just to make sure: I want us to take 10-15 minutes to review new bugs and either reject them or accept them as valid bugs signalling the reporters that we have seen them (and will deal with them eventually). Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29

Re: [Zope-dev] Doodle for August bug day

2010-07-23 Thread Christian Theune
On 07/20/2010 05:13 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi everyone, here's the Doodle for our next bug day: http://www.doodle.com/6gydequztpac3xud Wow! 9 people doodled and there's a day that seems acceptable to everyone: Thursday, 2010-08-19 will be our next bug day. I'm excited already about

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-20 at 15:00 UTC

2010-07-23 Thread Christian Theune
idea to spend 15 minutes together triaging some bugs to get the languishing bug reports down. The full report is here: http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100720.html (pending SVN update) See you next week, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg

Re: [Zope-dev] Help review #181754

2010-07-21 Thread Christian Theune
On 07/21/2010 09:17 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2010-7-21 07:32, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: * Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net [2010-07-20 19:28]: On 2010-7-20 18:15, Christian Theune wrote: At least, WRT this bug, I don't think it's a good idea to ask explicitly for bad requests to go

[Zope-dev] Doodle for August bug day

2010-07-20 Thread Christian Theune
Hi everyone, here's the Doodle for our next bug day: http://www.doodle.com/6gydequztpac3xud I'd like to see many people there, so if you have any questions that need answering before you can join us on the bug day: ask them! Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg

[Zope-dev] Help review #181754

2010-07-20 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I just rejected issue https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zope.app.testing/+bug/181754 There might be room for different oppinions and if anyone would like to veto the decision, I'd welcome a discussion. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29

Re: [Zope-dev] Help review #181754

2010-07-20 Thread Christian Theune
On 07/20/2010 06:01 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2010-7-20 17:39, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I just rejected issue https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zope.app.testing/+bug/181754 There might be room for different oppinions and if anyone would like to veto the decision, I'd welcome

Re: [Zope-dev] Help review #181754

2010-07-20 Thread Christian Theune
On 07/20/2010 07:28 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2010-7-20 18:15, Christian Theune wrote: At least, WRT this bug, I don't think it's a good idea to ask explicitly for bad requests to go to the application as the test layer should model real server behaviour as closely as possible. And again

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing / zope.testrunner path forward:

2010-07-20 Thread Christian Theune
and runs on Python 3 already. It's purely a question of if we want both changes at once or not. :-) I myself prefer having more releases. I like Marius' idea: 3.10 would be good for removing the test runner then 4.0 can be Py3 compatibility. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-20 at 15:00 UTC

2010-07-19 Thread Christian Theune
are, as always, welcome. See http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100720.html (should be available in a few minutes). Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 47 OK, 17 Failed

2010-07-17 Thread Christian Theune
demotivating. Ack. -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist

[Zope-dev] IRC meeting summaries from 2010-07-13 and 2010-07-06

2010-07-16 Thread Christian Theune
://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/index.html Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

Re: [Zope-dev] Invitation to bug day in July

2010-07-06 Thread Christian Theune
On 06/28/2010 06:33 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi everyone, our bug day in July needs scheduling and we'd like you to tell us which day works best for you if you want to participate: http://doodle.com/akd2f59kdadp86r2 Ok, so although Charlie indicated that his doodle is wrong, I'll take

[Zope-dev] Reminder: doodle your bug day participation

2010-07-05 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, I'd like to close the Doodle (see link below) tonight and have only had 4 responses so far, so, if you only forgot about it, please go ahead and indicate what day is best for you. Christian On 06/28/2010 06:33 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi everyone, our bug day in July needs

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting in IRC tomorrow at 15:00 UTC

2010-07-05 Thread Christian Theune
://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100629.html -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting, week 27

2010-07-05 Thread Christian Theune
another 4 weeks down the road and we agreed last time to spend some time in meta mode every now and then. So, independent of what we talk about in the 30 minutes of the meeting, please bring an additional 15 minutes for talking about the meeting itself. Christian -- Christian Theune · c

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting in IRC tomorrow at 15:00 UTC

2010-06-28 Thread Christian Theune
On 06/21/2010 05:59 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, I'd like to invite to the next developer meeting on IRC (#z...@freenode) which happens tomorrow at 15:00 UTC. And here's the report. Sorry for the delay. http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100622.html (Might take a minute

[Zope-dev] Invitation to bug day in July

2010-06-28 Thread Christian Theune
to improve Zope software, feel free to step by on #z...@freenode and join us! The last bug day got a lot of work done, see the summarized reports in the wiki: http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/BugDay20100616 Hope to see you during the bug day in July, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept

Re: [Zope-dev] Invitation to bug day in July

2010-06-28 Thread Christian Theune
On 06/28/2010 06:33 PM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi everyone, our bug day in July needs scheduling and we'd like you to tell us which day works best for you if you want to participate: http://doodle.com/akd2f59kdadp86r2 PS: Deadline for doodling is Monday 2010-07-05 Christian -- Christian

[Zope-dev] Developer meeting in IRC tomorrow at 15:00 UTC

2010-06-28 Thread Christian Theune
of this as the preliminary brainstorming to figure out what we want to talk about at the summit. If nothing else, I'd be happy to get a list of ideas what people think would be worthwhile to talk about. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112

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