Re: [Zope-dev] Github tip to get less github spam:

2013-03-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Mar 13, 2013, at 17:10 , Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: Visit: https://github.com/watching Either unwatch all or selectively unwatch repositories you're not interested in. (If you stop watching all, there's a lot of clicking to then watch repositories again.) Uncheck autowatch

Re: [Zope-dev] Github repo request: zope.tal, zope.testrunner

2013-02-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:53 , Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: Could someone with the magic admin bit please create Github repositories for zope.tal and zope.testrunner? Done. jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 git mirror not updating?

2013-01-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jan 11, 2013, at 14:07 , Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: I noticed that the Zope2 git mirror does not appear to be updating. Looking at https://github.com/zopefoundation/Zope/commits/2.13 it doesn't have any commits after November 15, while subversion has more recent commits

Re: [Zope-dev] Status of github migration

2013-01-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jan 10, 2013, at 11:23 , Patrick Gerken do3cc...@googlemail.com wrote: I wanted to fix some logging in Products.SiteErrorLog, but I am confused where to go to. zopefoundation on github has a small number of repos but not Products.SiteErrorLog. http://svn.zope.org shows me a web view

Re: [Zope-dev] Status of github migration

2013-01-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jan 10, 2013, at 14:37 , Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: For those packages that are fully migrated you will have obvious markers on the package in svn.zope.org, such as the package being read-only. I don't think

Re: [Zope-dev] Status of github migration

2013-01-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jan 10, 2013, at 14:45 , Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: On Jan 10, 2013, at 14:37 , Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: For those packages

Re: [Zope-dev] Status of github migration

2013-01-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jan 10, 2013, at 15:40 , Leonardo Rochael Almeida leoroch...@gmail.com wrote: I took a quick look at the Zope migration now and I think it's excellent. The only thing I'd add is that I'd also migrate branches 2.12 and 2.13 branches since they're all active, even if just for bug/security

Re: [Zope-dev] Status of github migration

2013-01-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jan 10, 2013, at 21:02, Matthew Wilkes matt...@matthewwilkes.co.uk wrote: When Plone did this the people involved wrote some scripts https://github.com/plone/svn-migrate That stuff works only partially. It uses a GitHub API that has been removed months ago. I migrated the Zope package

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: persistent/trunk/ Prep 4.0.4 release.

2012-12-12 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Dec 13, 2012, at 0:30 , Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: Getting distribution for 'persistent=4.0.0dev,4.1dev'. cc1.exe: error: unrecognized command line option '-mno-cygwin' error: Setup script exited with error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 An error occurred when

[Zope-dev] Zope Foundation patch policy

2012-10-09 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Foundation patch policy, binding for all Zope Foundation contributors (PDF alert): http://foundation.zope.org/agreements/ZopeFoundation_Patch_Policy.pdf Jens Vagelpohl -- Jens Vagelpohl Secretary, Zope Foundation Board of Directors [1] http://plone.org/foundation/materials/foundation-resolutions

Re: [Zope-dev] We need to change how code ownership works.

2012-08-20 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 20, 2012, at 8:18 , Wolfgang Schnerring w...@gocept.com wrote: a) Using Github is found to be quite attractive by lots of people. b) We need to be diligent in maintaining the chain of custody of code so the copyright situation is kept clean. As far as I understand it, the legal

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 19, 2012, at 0:01 , Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: Hi Jens, On 2012-08-18 07:49:59 +, Jens Vagelpohl said: Hi Alex, Please revert this checkin. You can't just take core software pieces from Zope Foundation-hosted repositories and move them somewhere else. Thanks! I

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:58 , Alex Clark acl...@aclark.net wrote: IANAL but from my perspective the legitimate issue here is that Domen Ko┼żar has not signed the Zope Contributor's Agreement, but Jim has added him to the Buildout organization on GitHub and he has been committing fixes. If I

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 19, 2012, at 10:17 , Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: And since it becomes ever easier to accept code from unknown sources (e.g. pull requests) legal code ownership becomes an issue again. And that returns me to my first question: Is it really legally different for a

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 19, 2012, at 10:55 , Robert Niederreiter r...@squarewave.at wrote: https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid/blob/master/CONTRIBUTORS.txt btw - pyramid seem to have a very pragmatic approach for the signing process ;) An approach I doubt will hold up in a court of law. We require and have

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi Alex, Please revert this checkin. You can't just take core software pieces from Zope Foundation-hosted repositories and move them somewhere else. Thanks! jens On Aug 18, 2012, at 3:09 , J. Alexander Clark cvs-ad...@zope.org wrote: Log message for revision 127519: Moved to github

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
of the stable branch into the same place. Hanno On 18.08.2012, at 09:49, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: Hi Alex, Please revert this checkin. You can't just take core software pieces from Zope Foundation-hosted repositories and move them somewhere else. Thanks! jens

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 18, 2012, at 12:46 , Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 2012-8-18 10:39, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Hi Hanno, Legally this must be a fork then and I'm not sure it can be released as official Zope Foundation software anymore if you make releases from GitHub. Doesn't the name

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 18, 2012, at 14:31 , Jean-Paul Smets j...@nexedi.com wrote: Hi, I approve your position Jens. Moving to git can make sense. Moving to github as primary platform does not make sense. Hi Jean-Paul, Technical pros and cons are valid arguments, correct, but that wasn't my point

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Aug 18, 2012, at 15:46 , Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: Legally this must be a fork then and I'm not sure it can be released as official Zope Foundation software anymore if you make releases from GitHub

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2012-02-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Feb 1, 2012, at 00:05 , Alex Clark wrote: Bottom line: Zope stands to benefit greatly if the current active developers keep an open mind about how/where/when development of Zope software should occur. There are plenty of people that still think Zope software is cool, and plenty of

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2012-02-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Feb 1, 2012, at 15:53 , Charlie Clark wrote: Currently the hurdle to getting involved is signing and sending the committer agreement. A hurdle which I think is worth keeping. For any code released under the Zope Foundation umbrella that hurdle cannot be removed, anyway. To be frank, I

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2012-02-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi Chris, For what it's worth, in the Pylons Project, we decided to continue requiring the signing of a contributor's agreement (more or less the same contributor agreement as Zope requires). But instead of signing via paper, we ask that folks sign the contributor agreement by adding their

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 WSGI investigation

2012-01-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jan 3, 2012, at 09:34 , Sylvain Viollon wrote: We use Paster as well in the stack, and use it to configure the Python logging process, you can configure there a logging to syslog, and after having a central syslog server. I think it is more professional like this, than using a tool in

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope internals documentation

2012-01-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi Martin, Sphinx on svn.zope.org works for me. :) I have created a simple buildout and put it in SVN: http://svn.zope.org/zope_secrets/ The output is shown at http://docs.zope.org/zope_secrets/ and linked from the front page at http://docs.zope.org/. Every 6 hours, a cron job looks to see

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope internals documentation

2012-01-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Dec 31, 2011, at 20:09 , Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi folks, I have documented some of the darker corners of Zope's internals. I put it in the Plone developer documentation for lack of a better place, but it's not Plone-specific:

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope internals documentation

2012-01-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi Martin, There *is* a better place, docs.zope.org. If you can tell me where the sources are I can put it there. Sure: Clone https://github.com/collective/collective.developermanual/ and get it from source/zope_secrets. Thanks, I'll take a look at it today. Where is docs.zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope internals documentation

2012-01-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:46 , Martin Aspeli wrote: Where is docs.zope.org maintained? On one of the ZF servers. If it's going to go there, I'd like it to (a) be in version control and (b) be somewhere that I can edit it. Is that doable? That's how we do it with almost everything underneath

[Zope-dev] Mailing lists moved

2011-11-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi all, I moved all mailing lists to a newer server this weekend. If anyone is noticing any problems please talk to me off-list. jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 publisher/traversal, sprint topic

2011-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Oct 27, 2011, at 16:07 , Lennart Regebro wrote: Do we really have to call it Zope 4? :-) Yes. jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

Re: [Zope-dev] Conversion old.zope.org to static site

2011-10-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi Tom, Further I have noticed two things: 1) Some pages are not recognized correctly and trigger a download (on Firefox) or show the source code (on IE): http://old.zope.org/Members/pje/Wikis/ZPatterns/HowTriggersWork.1 2) For some locations the folder contents are shown instead of

Re: [Zope-dev] Getting back to green

2011-10-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Oct 17, 2011, at 16:08 , Tres Seaver wrote: I would like to propose that we quit reporting test failures for the unmaintained packages ('zc3.*', for a start. If somebody really thinks there is value in such testing, we could perhaps run those tests only weekly (like the others which have

[Zope-dev] Conversion old.zope.org to static site

2011-10-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
Hi all, Just as a heads-up: Jim Fulton and I have converted old.zope.org to a static website. This allows ZC to decommission the hardware and reduces the maintenance burden for everyone involved. We have tried to keep all URLs intact and the site navigation working at the same time, which

Re: [Zope-dev] Missing Zope2 tarballs

2011-10-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Oct 11, 2011, at 03:33 , Alex Clark wrote: Hi, Anyone notice these missing tarballs? - http://old.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.9.12/Zope-2.9.12-final.tgz/ - http://old.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.13/Zope-2.10.13-final.tgz/ - http://old.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.4/Zope-2.11.4-final.tgz/

Re: [Zope-dev] Missing Zope2 tarballs

2011-10-11 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On Oct 11, 2011, at 17:14 , Alex Clark wrote: On 10/11/11 3:17 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: With the help of Jim, who produced a tarball containing the spidered content of old.zope.org, the site has been converted to a static site. There will inevitably be issues here and there. I'll take

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-06 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 7/6/11 13:41 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Concerning not marketing Zope 2, heh, Zope and marketing strategies? I thought we were going to call Zope 2, Zope now, so people will obviously be curious about this Zope thing... Never make any assumptions about a coherent Zope marketing strategy! I'll

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 7/5/11 11:56 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 5 July 2011 10:31, Hanno Schlichtingha...@hannosch.eu wrote: So we just got ourselves a Zope2 version 3.0. And no, naming it 4.0 or 5.0 or anything else doesn't make it any better at all. So 3.0 is the most sensible one :) Boy, that's going to be

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 7/5/11 14:41 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jens Vagelpohlj...@dataflake.org wrote: On 7/5/11 11:56 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 5 July 2011 10:31, Hanno Schlichtingha...@hannosch.euwrote: I'd actually favour calling it Zope2 4.0 just to avoid any mix-up with

Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net

2011-06-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/11 08:51 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: My question would be: why launchpad? Is anyone expecting launchpad to be a canonical resource for Zope releases? As far as I know none of our documentation refers to launchpad for downloads and launchpad

Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net

2011-06-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/11 10:20 , Andreas Jung wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I kept wondering why Launchpad even came up for Zope2 download resources. I don't recall a discussion where that was decided. PyPI and zope.org are still the canonical locations

Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net

2011-06-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/11 10:34 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: My question would be: why launchpad? Is anyone expecting launchpad to be a canonical resource for Zope releases? As far as I know

Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)

2011-05-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/10/11 07:28 , Alex Clark wrote: - Zope is: a brand, a term for any Zope-related technology, a general term. It no longer refers to anything specific. It is all-encompassing. - Zope 2 is the original web application server. - Bluebream is

Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)

2011-05-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/10/11 11:52 , Martijn Faassen wrote: I'd call 'Application servers', which is mostly a term from Java land, web frameworks instead, because that's what Python developers will understand, and put Zope, BlueBream and Grok under it. If it sorts

Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)

2011-05-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/10/11 22:31 , Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, I found a link off the new site (which looks great, btw) to: http://zodb.zope.org/ ...but this name doesn't resolve for me, does it for other people? The link is incorrect. It should point to

Re: [Zope-dev] beta.zope.org (www.zope.org relaunch project)

2011-05-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5/11/11 02:04 , Alex Clark wrote: Hi, On 5/10/11 5:38 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 09:15, Jens Vagelpohlj...@dataflake.org wrote: I strongly disagree on the term Zope 2. Now is a great time to finally stop the Zope2/3

Re: [Zope-dev] Repository cleanup: ZVSL licensed files?

2011-04-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/19/11 08:52 , Michael Howitz wrote: Hello, while making projects in SVN complying to the repository policy I found files which tell that their license is Zope Visible Source License, Version 1.0 (ZVSL). Is this license a valid license in

Re: [Zope-dev] Repository cleanup: ZVSL licensed files?

2011-04-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/19/11 15:19 , Jim Fulton wrote: On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/19/11 08:52 , Michael Howitz wrote: Hello, while making projects in SVN complying

Re: [Zope-dev] New test summarizer format

2011-04-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/3/11 12:41 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 3/29/11 11:15 , Adam GROSZER wrote: But it seems like it's about bugging Stephan Holek to stop the current one and bugging Jens to start the new one, or? Unless the script is broken. Could you run

Re: [Zope-dev] New test summarizer format

2011-04-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/4/11 08:37 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 4/3/11 12:41 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 3/29/11 11:15 , Adam GROSZER wrote: But it seems like it's about bugging Stephan Holek to stop the current one and bugging Jens to start the new one, or? Unless

Re: [Zope-dev] New test summarizer format

2011-04-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/29/11 11:15 , Adam GROSZER wrote: But it seems like it's about bugging Stephan Holek to stop the current one and bugging Jens to start the new one, or? Unless the script is broken. Could you run that script -- worst case we'll have 2 mails

Re: [Zope-dev] Draft of new aggregator

2010-12-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/1/10 08:59 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2010-12-1 07:43, Christian Theune wrote: Here's the draft we ended up with yesterday: http://dpaste.com/281566/ Can you move the non-OK results above the list of reports received? That way you have

Re: [Zope-dev] Draft of new aggregator

2010-12-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/1/10 09:28 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 12/1/10 09:04 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 12/1/10 08:59 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2010-12-1 07:43, Christian Theune wrote: Here's the draft we ended up with yesterday: http://dpaste.com/281566/ Can

Re: [Zope-dev] Draft of new aggregator

2010-11-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/30/10 16:06 , Christian Theune wrote: Hi, here's a shot at a new format of the aggregated mails. My focus on this draft was: - allow dealing with *lots* of results every day more easily - allow having a graphical overview of how

Re: [Zope-dev] Draft of new aggregator

2010-11-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/1/10 07:43 , Christian Theune wrote: On 11/30/2010 06:04 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Looks good to me, much better than what we have now. I'm guessing the URLs will be fixed to point to http://mail.zope.org... instead of file:///tmp

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - release candidate

2010-10-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/28/10 12:29 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: - zopectl start - doen't work (https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/628448) - Zope2 egg is not available in index (https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/653546) Both of these have been resolved now.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-07 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/6/10 18:33 , Tres Seaver wrote: +1 for dropping the test: if we aren't going to try to fix it to pass, then scrap it. Note that I actually feel the same way about *all* the every-day failures: the value of the every-day mail drops sharply

Re: [Zope-dev] Buildbot status on http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/buildbots.html

2010-10-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/30/10 21:16 , Marius Gedminas wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 03:04:09PM +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 9/30/10 14:37 , Marius Gedminas wrote: Can someone with admin access add a daily cron script to cd /path/to/ztk/doc/sources touch

Re: [Zope-dev] Bug day report

2010-10-01 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/1/10 10:22 , Charlie Clark wrote: Hi, I'll admit to spending most of my time on new CMF stuff but I did close two bugs that I felt comfortable with. Didn't seem anyone else was hanging around on IRC with bugfixing on their mind. I

Re: [Zope-dev] Buildbot status on http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/buildbots.html

2010-09-30 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/30/10 14:37 , Marius Gedminas wrote: http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/buildbots.html shows a very neatly organized overview of the status of various buildbots. There's only one problem: the content is outdated (Last updated on Sep

Re: [Zope-dev] Bug day reports

2010-08-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I worked on the following bugs: Already fixed = https://bugs.launchpad.net/products.zsqlmethods/+bug/440993 Fixed = https://bugs.launchpad.net/products.zsqlmethods/+bug/142689

Re: [Zope-dev] Don't get ZODB 3.10 by installing Zope2.13

2010-08-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/25/10 21:32 , Vladislav Vorobiev wrote: ps: my normal email for this mailings list is **mymir@gmail.com**. I subscribe the list and get emails but I can't send anything. No mail from mymir@gmail.com was accept

Re: [Zope-dev] (Zope2) a proposed tweak to assigning default roles to permissions

2010-08-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/19/10 09:46 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: Can roles currently contain whitespace? Like Awesome People? If so, we should go for nested nodes: permission id=my.NewPermission title=My new permission roleManager/role roleSiteAdmin/role

Re: [Zope-dev] Retire zope3-checkins list

2010-08-09 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/9/10 08:58 , Baiju M wrote: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.com wrote: Hi, What about retiring zope3-checkins list ? I send this sometimes back. What needs to be done to retire this list ? I think there are few

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org

2010-08-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/5/10 00:16 , Willi Langenberger wrote: According to Jens Vagelpohl: before=$(svn info $ROOT | grep ^Last Changed Rev: | cut -d -f 4) svn up -q $ROOT after=$(svn info $ROOT | grep ^Last Changed Rev: | cut -d -f 4) I think svn info

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Chris, I've just been doing some build and release tools for a customer that involve this sort of stuff, I resorted to: snip lots of code Yikes. Maybe the subshell isn't so bad after all :-P jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [Zope-dev] Products in Zope 2.12+

2010-08-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/4/10 10:52 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: I'm in the process of egg-ifying some Zope 2 Products of mine (first up is MailTemplates) and I'm curious as to how

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/4/10 11:33 , Chris Withers wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I've just been doing some build and release tools for a customer that involve this sort of stuff, I resorted to: snip lots of code Yikes. Maybe the subshell isn't so bad after all :-P

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org

2010-08-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/4/10 14:55 , Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 11:09:58AM +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 8/4/10 10:57 , Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello Jens, Something is wrong with the automatic update of http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org

2010-08-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/4/10 17:26 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm wondering: can it be made to skip useless docs such as http://docs.zope.org/zope.hookable/index.html, perhaps by checking for linecount? There are also a lot of packages that only have a changelog

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Brian, Do you have access to an source distribution (tarball or zip) for the package involved? In the source distribution the PKG-INFO file is always at the top level. No, these are trunk checkouts. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/3/10 00:19 , Tres Seaver wrote: The 'pkginfo' utility knows how to extract package metadata from stuff installed on the path: http://packages.python.org/pkginfo/distributions.html#introspecting-installed-packages as well as from

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 15:51 , Stephan Richter wrote: We have put a lot of energy into putting the full documentation of packages into the package's long description and most packages have this layout (I know, because I did it for most. ;-) So it might be

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/3/10 22:59 , Marius Gedminas wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 10:42:42PM +0200, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: listing, like the ZTK list[1]. I had to resort to executing setup.py --long-description in a subprocess, unfortunately. Never found out how

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Martijn, http://docs.zope.org/zope.event/ Really cool! Wouldn't it be good to put this under /package/zope.event to avoid potential naming conflicts? I realize they're rare, but I can imagine that a project foo could exist that wants to

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 75 OK, 15 Failed, 1 Unknown

2010-08-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 14:00 , Zope Tests Summarizer wrote: Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Sun Aug 1 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Mon Aug 2 12:00:00 2010 UTC. There were 91 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 1 from buildbot at enfoldsystems.com, 4

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 15:51 , Stephan Richter wrote: We have put a lot of energy into putting the full documentation of packages into the package's long description and most packages have this layout (I know, because I did it for most. ;-) So it might be

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 16:36 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday, August 02, 2010, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: 'll have to look at that. Currently, the documentation builder does not do any introspection on the package itself, mostly because I do not want to fully

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 16:48 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday, August 02, 2010, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Thanks for the hint, I'll try that. Can you give me a sample package where the long description is supposed to be the main documentation? And what's

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 16:50 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday, August 02, 2010, Stephan Richter wrote: py26 setup.py --long-description | rst2html rst2html have many options that allow you to modify the style, including the ability to specify a stylesheet.

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 17:00 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday, August 02, 2010, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: OK, I'll see what I can do with that. I'll probably end up using the long description as last fallback. So you will see every package linked to *something

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 16:36 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday, August 02, 2010, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: 'll have to look at that. Currently, the documentation builder does not do any introspection on the package itself, mostly because I do not want to fully

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 18:26 , Martijn Faassen wrote: http://packages.python.org/distribute/pkg_resources.html You can probably create a Distribution object somehow (handwave) from a path (whether that's the path of the package or the path the package is

[Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-07-31 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, Here's a followup on a docs.zope.org automation task I took over during one of the Zope developer IRC metings[1]. The task was to provide individual package documentation, if it exists, directly underneath docs.zope.org, e.g.:

Re: [Zope-dev] unit test policy questions

2010-07-29 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/29/10 15:57 , yuppie wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Martin Aspelioptilude+li...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 July 2010 20:14, yuppiey.2...@wcm-solutions.de wrote: Sure. But do you always run all tests it picks

Re: [Zope-dev] IRC meeting summaries from 2010-07-13 and 2010-07-06

2010-07-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
I cannot access the files. Apparently you must have a Google account and log in :-( jens On Jul 17, 2010, at 19:26, Takeshi Yamamoto t...@mac.com wrote: On Jul 16, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Christian Theune wrote: - We need to deal with the fact that some projects in svn.zope.org are likely

Re: [Zope-dev] IRC meeting summaries from 2010-07-13 and 2010-07-06

2010-07-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
tested with different browsers without login and I could download files. Google account should not be required. Do you mean you cannot see the listing of files when you accessed to that URL in your browser? Takeshi On Jul 18, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: I cannot access

Re: [Zope-dev] IRC meeting summaries from 2010-07-13 and 2010-07-06

2010-07-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
of download link. The download link is located just under the file name per file. Takeshi On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:07 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Hi Takeshi, I can see the listing but when I click on a file download link I get a page saying insufficient privileges. You must be logged in to view

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ - LP #143533: Instead of showing 0.0.0.0 as server name when no

2010-07-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/14/10 16:28 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 7/14/10 16:19 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Log message for revision 114741: - LP #143533: Instead of showing 0.0.0.0 as server name when no specific listening IP is configured for the HTTP server

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ - LP #143533: Instead of showing 0.0.0.0 as server name when no

2010-07-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/14/10 17:00 , Andreas Jung wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I don't mind doing this for a SERVER_NAME in the response, but looking at the diff from the commit email you also changed the startup message from Zope 2 with this change. That is

[Zope-dev] Bug day report

2010-07-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I worked on Zope2 bugs today. This is what I managed to get done: Fixed = - https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/143273 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/143564 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/143722 -

Re: [Zope-dev] Invitation to bug day in July

2010-07-06 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/6/10 17:53 , Christian Theune wrote: So, next Wednesday (2010-07-14) is the next bug day. Here's a wiki page so you can also register there to indicate participation: http://wiki.zope.org/ztk/BugDay20100714 I'll not that the simple table you

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests list admin

2010-07-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/4/10 10:41 , Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello Shane, Are you the list admin there or you know who it is? Hi Adam, I just looked and Shane's no longer working zope.com address was listed as the only admin. I put myself in instead. Do you need me

Re: [Zope-dev] New release of z3c.form

2010-07-03 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/1/10 17:36 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 1 July 2010 21:10, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be wrote: http://packages.python.org/z3c.form Who will get rid of http://docs.zope.org/z3c.form/ ? If you do, can you please make it link or

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sendmail and critical transaction errors.

2010-06-24 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/24/10 09:30 , Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: The misconfiguration of the mail host in transactional mode *does* cause the server to go into a lockdown mode (because errors are not supposed to be raised in 'tpc_finish'). There is

[Zope-dev] [alert] domain issues zope.org and zopefoundation.org

2010-06-16 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Unknown to the Zope Foundation and the ZF admins it appears the zope.org and zopefoundation.org domains have expired. The domains were held by Rob Page as Zope Corporation representative. For community members this means services like the

[Zope-dev] Bug day report

2010-06-16 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I worked on Zope2 bugs today. This is what I managed to get done: Fixed = https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/143946 https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/374818 https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/142535

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 36 OK, 8 Failed

2010-06-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/3/10 16:29 , Tres Seaver wrote: Zope Tests Summarizer wrote: Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-osx From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com Date: Wed Jun 2 09:33:54 EDT 2010 URL:

[Zope-dev] REMINDER: Planned server and list outage LATER TODAY

2010-05-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Reminder: Today at 20:00 UTC (less than 12 hours from now) one of the Zope Foundation-maintained servers will be physically moved to a different data center by our hosting provider. The server will be shut down at around 20:00 UTC and, according to

[Zope-dev] NOTICE: Planned server and list outage

2010-05-25 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please note: First of all, apologies for the cross-posting. I wanted to reach as many people as possible. On Thursday, May 27 (2 days from now) one of the Zope Foundation-maintained servers will be physically moved to a different data center by our

[Zope-dev] REMINDER: Planned server outage

2010-05-10 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Reminder: In about 3.5 hours one of the Zope Foundation-maintained servers will be physically moved to a different data center by our hosting provider. The server will be shut down at around 20:00 UTC and, according to the hosting provider, become

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