Hi!
I am aware that I am adding another 2-3 man years to the wishlist, but here
are some ideas I had lately:
A Zope IDE should be much more than just a programming IDE adapted offer
highlighting etc. for Zope's languages. It should be an RAD tool similar to
what MS Access does for
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are positioning Zope 3 against? I've never seen an
answer to that quite important question ...
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application?
Is there any written documentation on how to hook up the error log?
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Hi!
WRT the Zope 2.7 timeline: Couldn't we just get a new beta that includes
the most critical bug fixes very soon? If 2.7 doesn't get deployed on
almost production systems there will not be too much further testing I
guess. And currently most non-experts will not even be able to get a
Zope
Chris McDonough wrote:
2.7.0b2 was released yesterday with both of these bugs fixed. Is that
soon enough? ;-)
Yes it is ;-)
Sorry, I didn't check before ...
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is not a firewall. If you don't take care there is some chance
of DOS attacks. On the other hand I am quite positive that Zope is very
secure in terms of preventing unauthorized access to the system (root
exploits etc.).
Joachim
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of browsing the
source code?
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calling a
variable or so. Errors in the ZPT syntax and some runtime errors are
raised properly, but others just cause a white page to be rendered,
which is very hard to debug without using a debugger.
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Toby Bologna schrieb:
Hi,
I'm a programmer but new to Zope. I'm developing a text markup language
like Structured Text that better suits my needs outside the Zope/Python
world. Would I be able to incorporate it within Zope, i.e., so I could
edit the new format in the edit window and have it
http://david.tribble.com/text/misspell.htm
Could we add that to the Zope 3 styleguide? ;-)
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So there are probably two solutions:
a) DO NOT delete the owner
b) Let somebody else take over the ownership
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? At least
as an option that can be activated when needed?
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Hi,
I'd just like to know when can we expect a 2.6.1b2. It would be nice to
have a new release where we don't have to patch just to get ZClasses to
work.
Yes, it IS indeed a problem if there is no single Zope version out there
that can be used without patches. 2.6.0 has the DateTime bug, the
and
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to happen even if the Zope server runs
locally!
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Hi!
We've talked a lot about that when we discussed Zope I18N some time ago.
Most of this is relatively easy to accomplish even now.
Regarding language negotiation: Both Localizer and ZBabel do this. The
problem in my practical experience is that most people do not configure
their browsers
Hi!
Please note that former Zope versions already include a dedicated
unicode-aware
splitter that is already usable with the old TextIndex and maybe with
ZCTextIndex.
TextIndexNG resolves all these issues by doing the complete internal
processing by
converting the data into unicode. Every
I must've missed the start of this thread (I only just signed up for
this list). I didn't see any patch -- I thought it was just a gripe
about ZCTextIndex. Of course patches are welcome -- where can I find
this particular patch?
Hi Guido!
I don't know where you would expect a patch to be
Hi!
Some additional remarks: While making the splitting dependent on the locale
settings (as done in the old TextIndex) helps with most use cases, I'm not
sure if that is the right thing to do in the long run. Locale settings are
good for client software, i.e. if you want to have a program behave
be replaced by
TextIndexNG?
Does it make sense to get ZCTextIndex fixed (there seems to be a patch in
the collector already) or should I go with TextIndexNG? If yes, is it ready
for production environments?
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I won't look into the DTML Parser code right now. Don't need no headache ;-)
But this is my first guess:
dtml-if getEasyLanguageService
DTML looks at getEasyLanguageService and does an implicit
getEasyLanguageService(). So now getEasyLanguageService (as an attribute
in the DTML namespace)
Hello!
I am getting multiple identical entries in the Add menu of the indexes page
of my ZCatalogs with Zope 2.6.1 b1. Is it just me?
Could be a minor bug with filtering the all_meta_types or
filtered_meta_types ...
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- Use grown-up language in log messages rather than Aiieee! and
Houston, we have forked
I think you are right, but from an emotional point of view, I'll be missing
Houston very much. This kind of stuff gave Zope a personal note.
Hi All,
I'm interested in starting to maintain Xron, if it has potential to be a
stable products.
From the code it doesn't seem to do any strange things, but I would
like to know if anybody has experience of using it in a production
environment, or any other experiences and that would
Hi!
OT: I am going to switch to some other mail client soon. It's unbelievable
that Outlook Express still doesn't do the thing right :-(
- Xron just runs on one server, e.g. the one that is on the fastest
machine;
this is useful for cases where you need the events to be executed on the
same
Hi!
I could comment for hours on the postings in this thread (after rereading
what I've just written below I actually did ;-)). But let me just take this
to say what is most important to me:
In the world of Zope 3, this distinction will be even more clear. Zope
2 unfortunately tried too much
. run fstest.py and/or
fsrecover.py? It's quite unlikely that you'd loose a whole tree, as the data
is not physically stored in trees, but added sequentially. You might have
deleted a tree, but that can be rolled back by getting rid of the ZODB
transaction that did the delete.
Cheers
Joachim Werner
Hi!
I have a really large Data.fs file (1.3 GB) that has a number of errors.
When I run the fstest.py script, I get this:
Problem: 109963117 object serialno 0x034573c4b6a2cb6e does not match
transaction id 0x034573c55c8c0dbb
How can I fix the Data.fs file? It should be possible to scan the
I have a Zope 2.5.1 using ZEO on Linux, with Apache as proxy server.
The two
ZEO clients run fine for a couple of hours, and then suddenly one of
them
stops responding. It's the type of Zope hangs when all processes are
fine,
but ZServer just doesn't respond (load is very low, with
Hi!
I have a Zope 2.5.1 using ZEO on Linux, with Apache as proxy server. The two
ZEO clients run fine for a couple of hours, and then suddenly one of them
stops responding. It's the type of Zope hangs when all processes are fine,
but ZServer just doesn't respond (load is very low, with the CPU
Hello!
Suddenly I am getting massive problems with Zope 2.5.1 sessions. The Zope
instance was upgraded from 2.5.0 to 2.5.1 and has a lot more load now as it
is in production. Nothing else has changed I guess.
The problems:
Frequent duplicate key errors, and now a new one when I try to enter
Hi!
Barry A. Warsaw writes:
concerns. After talking with Fred, I came to understand that much of
the code's current obscurity is due to optimizations to make TAL
perform at least as fast as DTML.
Well, faster than it used to. We need to spend time on performance.
Indeed. All my
Hi!
I am getting the following results from an ab (Apache benchmark) run against
a Zope site:
Concurrency Level: 20
Time taken for tests: 11.862 seconds
Complete requests: 40
Failed requests:23
(Connect: 0, Length: 23, Exceptions: 0)
Total transferred: 1517831 bytes
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Hi!
I tried with more verbosity. The result is that the headers'
Content_Length
differs.
I
Hi!
I finally got it:
It's not Zope that causes any trouble, it's ab. It seems to expect identical
sizes for the pages retrieved. What I checked was commit a change to a test
page (which was absolutely static) in the middle of an ab run. The result
was almost 55% failed requests ...
Cheers
OrderedFolder is not about having an ordered default view in the management
interface. The point is that people want to build menus or web pages that
consist of several objects in a folder, using objectValues()/objectIds().
Without OrderedFolder or a similar approach it is very hard to position
I don't know OrderedFolder very well but it'd be very useful in several
of my projects, so I can volunteer a bit of time in helping to get it
in Zope 2.6 as well.
Hi Martijn!
If you do so, please check with me for the newest version of Ordered Folder.
I have added a few features to
Hi!
That is Stephan's product, not mine, and it *may* have some issues in
certain OS distributions (based on my experiences and another user's).
So,
it cannot be added itself without some work--further testing work if
nothing
else.
What kind of problems does OrderedFolder have? There is no
Hi!
I think the problem is more severe. IE 6 has obviously changed behaviour
compared to IE 5.5. I'd call it a bug. It now always calculates 100% with
the right-hand bar's width INCLUDED, so there are other side-effects than
the one you are describing, like the last tab on the right being
Hello!
Has anyone done any performance comparisons between DTML and ZPT yet? The
reason I'm asking is that we did some first(completely unscientific) tests
and had the impression that ZPT were actually quite a bit SLOWER than DTML -
and I just can't believe that ...
Joachim
Hi!
I remember that someone posted that question before, but I didn't find it.
So here it is again:
In the latest Zope versions, if a user has no rights to see a certain
management tab in the ZMI, it is shown anyway. If he clicks on it, he'll get
an authentication request, so the method behind
Hi!
I have a problem concerning using versions and sessions together in Zope 2.5
beta 3:
As the Temporary Storage is incompatible with versions, it seems to me that
I can not at all use any session manipulating code in a method that might be
called under version control. This is very disturbing
: As of Zope 2.5 b3, you can
either use versions OR sessions. If you try to combine them, you'll get into
big trouble. This is a major bug, right?
Cheers
Joachim
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I have a slight correction to make (which doesn't change the message of this
posting):
- As the new sessioning code seems to be working within the transaction
machinery, the SESSION.set action causes the mere display of an index_html
page (that includes a session initialization method) to be
Hi!
This is my first post in the new year, so best wishes for 2002 from Germany!
And on we go with my problem:
I have a ZClass-based Class derived from File. It holds PDF documents. SOME
(not all) of them do not auto-open in Acrobat Reader as they are supposed to
if MS IE 5.x is used. Opera
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Martijn fixed that problem some weeks ago. The fixes
Hi!
Just to answer my own question and complete the mail archive:
If you have problems with downloads that make use of the HTTP range
functionality (e.g. with the latest Acrobat Reader in MS IE), Zope 2.5 fixes
the problem (for me).
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Hi!
I have tried to compile psycopg on a SuSE Linux 7.0 system, but it I simply
cannot get it done. Do you have some precompiled binaries you could post?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Joachim Werner
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Hi!
I don't have the resources to start something like that NOW, but I'd really
like to see work on an OpenOffice integration:
has anybody integrated/plans on intragration/experimented with
OpenOffice and Zope ?
YES.
- OpenOffice as a HTML Editor / Web-Frontend for Zope
I don't like that
Hi!
I finally managed to compile that beast. So I'll probably be the one to post
binaries ASAP ...
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Hi!
I have two Zope 2.5 b2 installations on two seemingly identical machines,
both with PostgreSQL, ZPsyCopDA, and DBObjects. In the DBObjects demo, I am
getting THIS (see below) on one of the machines (the one with the slightly
older installation).
Very strange for me. What the hell is
Hi!
This time I need some specialists to help ...
Here is some code from ZBabel Objects. ZBabel objects are folders that hold
localized versions of anything you want to internationalize and pass getting
attributes and calling objects to one of these localized versions depending
on your language
Doesn't seem to make any difference :-(
What does that option do?
class Rewrapper(Base):
def __init__(self, path):
self._path = path
def __of__(self, parent):
ob = parent
for p in self._path:
ob = getattr(ob, p) = HERE WE GET A
Hi!
Any ZCatalog experts out there?
I am suddenly getting this with a ZCatalog (it is actually a subclassed
version of the ZCatalog, almost a one-to-one copy of the CMF Catalog tool):
--
Zope Error
Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
Error Type: KeyError
Error
Hi!
This isn't a Catalog error, it's a ZODB error. It appears that your
ZODB data has beome inconsistent. You might want to try to run
fsrecover.py against it after making a backup to see if it detects any
errors.
I don't think so:
- fsrecover doesn't find anything
- the error occurs on
Hi!
This is a totally different business model than the one Zope Corp. is
using
right now, but it might help refinancing the overhead a good community
needs
to have ...
Would it have to be done by ZC?
No, of course not.
And there could be more than one of course (though we'd need a
The second is pretty exciting as well. I saw a presentation in Paris by
Juan David Palomar, of Localizer fame. (The presentation is now up at
http://estce.act.uji.es:9673/localizer). The presentation impressed me
on the need to get someone into the core of Zope that knows all these
Of course there are hot spots. I have asked multiple times for help on the
mailing
lists and the Eurozope site to identify such related hot spots.
Also I had expect some input of the community regarding at unicode support
inside Zope. But there has been no feedback. It looks like no one
Hi!
To be honest i would be happy for Zope 3 not to be backwards
compatible. Tidy it up, delete the unless code, dare i say it -
refactor. Yes so my products will break, well half a days refactoring
myself and i have a tidier more understandable project anyway.
YES, we need a new start.
Noone from Zope Corp seems to monitor the list to help out.
That is not my experience at all. I have received answers from Zope corps
several times. But sure, most of the answers you get come from the
community
members. Thats what a community is all about, and thats the hallmark of a
good
Does the fishbowl process address this for you?
http://dev.zope.org/Fishbowl/Introduction.html
From me, that'll be a resounding no.
Every single idea I've had for Zope has died somewhere in the fishbowl,
and not because people have turned round and
gone no, that's a crap idea. That
I seem to have to comment on most of the mails in this thread. Sorry for
that ;-)
Personally, I think ZC are trying very hard, but are not getting it
right. I'm also very sure they are taking this conversation
seriously. Brian responded very quickly to the userfolder 'api'
issues. They
Hi Paul!
I don't want to replace one group of people with a busy agenda with
another group of people with a busy agenda. We need a small group of
people that are willing to make a long-term commitment to
responsibility. These people can then tap into others that can commit
on an as-needed
IMO, Bugzilla won't fix these kinds of problems. I think the first step
is to refine what we have while finding better ways to work together.
We definitely need a ZOPE-based approach. What I really don't get is this:
We all seem to be building Zope-based systems for communities, public
Notification, which bugzilla offers, MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE!!
Email notification is good enough, if I want that to beep my cellphone, I
just
send it to me genie.co.uk email address...
Yet another comment: That translates to We finally need MAILMAN integration
into Zope!
I mean,
I think there's another problem here: possibly the community isn't
large enough yet. There's already been a discussion on zope-coders
about how little those with commit priviledges are actually
committing, and the main reason is simply that no-one has enough
time.
This might be a bit
Where's the $99 version of Zope? The $499? The $1499? The
$25999? Zope Corp hasn't pulled that card out like many other
vendors have. There are actually many pieces of Zope that were
initially commercial add-ons (or intended to be) that are now all
open source.
I sometimes have the
When we first opened the fishbowl, it was with the certainty that we
wouldn't get it right immediately. That's why we went with the intentially
low-tech approach of a pile of Wikis. That first step actually worked
pretty well for a while until we hit critical-Wiki-mass and there were
Hi!
Has anyone out there tried this already? Last we heard, Mailman was
a standalone CGI program, and in order to make it work with Zope you
had to run both Mailman and Zope behind another web server (such as
Apache).
Yes, but if you control the Mailman from Zope, you will of course not
By default, Zope adds the title and version properties, for which it
gets the value from version.txt and meta_type,
but does anyone know a way to add more?
This is only half an answer, but maybe it helps:
I am not quite sure if you can do that the easy way from Python. (I.e. just
define a
I'm not entirely sure why the idea of ZTables went away so completely.
Python tables in the ZODB combined with the catalog should make for an
interesting system to play with. Though perhaps there are products
out there that actually do this. Come to think of it, MetaPublisher
(not to be
Hi!
Stephan Richter has started to re-implement DateTime using mxDateTime a
couple of weeks ago. That should fix all the various problems with DateTime.
At Zope Corporation, Andreas Jung took care of that. So if you complain loud
enough, I guess the fix could go into the 2.5 release. It just
Hi!
Has anybody also had that with a Zope 2.4.1 instance (Linux)? It happens not
only with Metapublisher (as in the example), but seems to occur quite
randomly. It might be a problem with my local install, but even if it is, it
should not happen (as I just have some custom Products installed)
I imagine that the group will decide rules on peer reviewing. For
comparison, the Mozilla group has very elaborate rules for checkins,
while Python has pretty much an innocent until proven guilty culture.
(That is, you check something in, and if somebody complains, it gets
removed.)
I
Vulnerability: attacking can get file list and directory
Tested on Win32 platform
Example:
telnet zopeserver 8080
PROPFIND / HTTP/1.0
enter
enter
enter
list files and directory
This tested on my site:
security.instock.ru 8080
This one really seems to be the old WebDAV is not
Hi Paul! Hi list!
In the last couple of weeks I have really looked forward for the CVS to be
finally opened. Not that I would be the first to be accepted as a
contributor (my Python is still lousy, as Stephan Richter could tell you
...), but I read things from ZC like We are too busy to get
Question :
When I access to my folder by webdav protocol (win98 webfolder), I can
list
the folder content, but when I want to access to a file inside, Zope asked
to
me another authentification, then I can access to my file (wordd file
(.doc))
but only in read only mode.
This seems to be a
/
Transparent_A
Method_A
Folder_B
Transparent_B
Method_A
Folder_C
Folder_B and Folder_C are non-transparent, Transparent_A and
Transparent_B are transparent.
The problem is when i say dtml-var Method_A in a Document which is in
Folder_C i got
Maybe you search python.org for Guido's metaclasses article.
It tells that a Python class can be both a class and an instance
and that this view has interesting applications.
You focus on the class aspects of a ZClass (a pattern for creating
instances providing them with basic common
I do not agree with you:
a ZClass is both an instance (you can manage, modify, delete)
and a class (you can use as blueprint for object creation).
O.k., I CAN manage/modify/delete a ZClass, but it still is (conceptually) a
class, and only a class. You can manage/modify/delete Zope
Transparent Folders are used very often at iuveno. And we would like to do
so in the future because they really provide an easy way to structure
objects in folders. But with Zope 2.3.3 we get errors like that when we
start an instance that uses Transparent Folders:
Traceback (innermost last):
Tomorrow I hope to release a version of TransparentFolders that works
around the problem, so you can wait for that instead if you like.
Cool! Could you maybe put the patch that currently is applied in
OFS/__init.py__ into a Hotfix? This would make it easier to use Transparent
Folders together
Is there any good reason why a Product inside the ControlPanel is the only
place a ZClass can exist? Why can't I have one in any folder?
I think it is perfectly logical that ZClasses are located in the Products
area. A folder is for instances of classes, and a ZClass is a class, not an
dtml-tree made me look good today :). Thanks DC!
But still it urgently needs a rewrite ;-)
Some issues:
- Only one tree per page (it should be an option to use core session or
unique cookies to enable more than one tree per page)
- The open/close icons are hard-coded
- A general one that
That's not the behaviour I'd expect. Can anyone confirm this is a
bug?
As LEE Kwan Soo has already said, it is not a bug, but a clever (too
clever?) feature that should maybe not be enabled by default. Every second
week or so somebody runs into this and thinks it is a bug.
To the DC people:
Has anybody seen a product that lets you make the equivalent of a symbolic
link in unix in the Zope DB?
http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/Symlink
(VERY experimental ...)
Joachim
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this distinction so that all components can be edited via the
filesystem
and
live in the object database.
This does worry me. I think I understand at least one motivation (ZEO),
but...
Well, as long as it doesn't compromise my ability to write Zope python
code
using filesystem tools,
Hi!
We see FTP and especially WebDAV as the best fit technoligies for the
content owners; we spent a good deal of effoert on cleaning up
FTP/WebDAV
for yesterday's CMF release, for instance.
I think you are misunderstanding what I mean with enabling power users:
With WebDAV and FTP one can
Coincidently, I was just trying to edit a file on the filesystem with an
FTP
client going thru Zope/FTP and a LocalFS. It didn't work. The LocalFS
instance didn't look like a directory to FTP so FTP could neither read nor
write to the directory.
Does that throw a monkey wrench into your
Do you mean generating Python code from ZClasses? For example making and
editing a Product over the web?
Kind of. Probably not full-fledged Products, but ZClass-like Classes that
define values for property sheets, include Methods, inherit from certain
base classes etc. ... well, maybe I'll end
Error Type: TypeError
Error Value: unsliceable object
Have you tried to use the newest Zope version? In 2.3.0 or so there was a
bug that gave us the unsliceable object error for ZClasses that are based
on Image or File (which should be similar to the DTMLDocument case).
Newer versions work
dtml-let data=SESSION.getSessionData()
manage=REQUEST.get('manage_content') or
data.get('manage_content')
dtml-unless manage
dtml-call data.set('manage_content','NO')
/dtml-unless
dtml-in data.keys()
dtml-let si=sequence-item
dtml-call REQUEST.set(si, data[si])
What we experience with CoreSessionTracking:
We have a manage mode in the Kontentor CMS hacky thing (no, it is NOT a
product yet ;-)). It works well for some time (i.e. if I click on it, the
system switches to manage mode and stays in manage mode until I click
again), but from time to time it is
However, a much more helpful report would be
one which provides a repeatable test case which invariably reproduces
the problem instead of one which states the symptoms and effects of the
problem.
I know, but that's why the errors are called random: They are not easy to
replicate ...
Now, it may be useful to provide a management interface for defining the
schema mapping. I haven't approached that yet; AFAICT this is where the
work done on SmartObjects and DBObjects would be very useful. Initially
I was planning for people to code the mapping purely in Python so we
My thought on this, is that you will be forced to explicitly consider the
nature of this relationship and its storage at the application level. If
you write explicitly for ZODB, you might use a BTree, for example. Or
perhaps you'd have some kind of global container for the Tasks, with a
My thought on this, is that you will be forced to explicitly consider the
nature of this relationship and its storage at the application level. If
you write explicitly for ZODB, you might use a BTree, for example. Or
perhaps you'd have some kind of global container for the Tasks, with a
This is true in the ZODB, but can be complicated by acquisition. If an
object can acquire itself, it can cause issues. Plus it becomes
difficult to know whether objects are clones or just identical
instances, although this can be mitigated by exposing their Python
instance id.
Acquisition
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