Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 5, OK: 8

2013-07-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Jul 17, 2013, at 12:41 , Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that I don't know how to do that. Normally I get setuptools with sudo apt-get install python-setuptools, or by creating a virtualenv. I have setuptools 0.9.1 deb packages if you need them. One

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 14, OK: 7

2013-07-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Jul 12, 2013, at 02:38, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/11/2013 01:05 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: FWIW I tried to upgrade a few projects to zc.buildout 2.2 today but had to revert to a buildout 1.x due to conflicts

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 14, OK: 7

2013-07-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Jul 11, 2013, at 16:44 , Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/11/2013 03:55 AM, Patrick Gerken wrote: now I have to create a virtualenv with --distribute, then I have to upgrade setuptools We should be upgrading all our

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 86, OK: 5

2013-06-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Jun 3, 2013, at 14:37 , Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/02/2013 09:00 PM, Zope tests summarizer wrote: This is the summary for test reports received on the zope-tests list between 2013-06-01 00:00:00 UTC and 2013-06-02

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 1, OK: 13

2013-05-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On May 28, 2013, at 08:19, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 01:00:02AM +, Zope tests summarizer wrote: [1]FAILED winbot / z3c.layer.ready2go_py_265_32 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2013-May/075191.html Looks like a transient

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 10, OK: 12

2013-03-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Mar 15, 2013, at 07:57, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: [8]winbot / zope.app.wsgi_py_265_32 I misunderstood last time. *** empty log message *** does not mean this is a clone of an empty repo. It's *the actual svn commit message* of the last commit:

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK 2.0: Deprecate zope.sequencesort

2013-03-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Mar 1, 2013, at 19:06, Suresh V. suresh...@yahoo.com wrote: On Friday 01 March 2013 02:15 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: I'm sorry, it's early in the morning. It is of course: sorted(sorted(news_stories, key=lambda x: x.publication_date, reverse=True), key=lambda x:

Re: [Zope-dev] ZTK 2.0: Deprecate zope.sequencesort

2013-02-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Feb 28, 2013, at 14:43 , Stephan Richter stephan.rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I would like to deprecate zope.sequencesort in ZTK 2.0, since it cannot properly ported to Python 3, since it depends heavily on the cmp() way of sorting. I am also not a user of the package and I

Re: [Zope-dev] [Plone-developers] Relaxing Zope id rules for Zope 4 / Plone 5

2013-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Feb 21, 2013, at 09:08 , Hans-Peter Locher hans-peter.loc...@inquant.de wrote: In my opinion utf-8 urls are the same kind of evil as having tabs and whitespaces in filenames. Can you explain your reasoning? Wichert. ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] Relaxing Zope id rules for Zope 4 / Plone 5

2013-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:47 , Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 09:57:52AM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I want to propose that we do the following: Allow arbitrary str object ids in Zope 4 based on Dieter's work. Configure standard name choosers, normalizers

Re: [Zope-dev] [Plone-developers] Relaxing Zope id rules for Zope 4 / Plone 5

2013-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Feb 21, 2013, at 09:26 , Christian Ledermann christian.lederm...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Hans Peter, On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On Feb 21, 2013, at 09:08 , Hans-Peter Locher hans-peter.loc...@inquant.de wrote: In my

Re: [Zope-dev] [Plone-developers] Relaxing Zope id rules for Zope 4 / Plone 5

2013-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Feb 21, 2013, at 09:38 , Hans-Peter Locher hans-peter.loc...@inquant.de wrote: In a distributed application, you cannot always ensure that you have each component under control. The url is the most basic interface to a web application. In Plone the id (and therefore the url) is

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 13, OK: 16, UNKNOWN: 2

2013-02-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Feb 22, 2013, at 07:30, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 01:00:02AM +, Zope tests summarizer wrote: [1]FAILED (failures=2) : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.8 : Linux [2]FAILED (failures=2) : Zope-trunk Python-2.7.3 : Linux Same old (menu actions are now

[Zope-dev] Relaxing Zope id rules for Zope 4 / Plone 5

2013-02-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Currently Zope has two rules for object ids: 1) they must be str instances, and 2) they must only consist of alphanumerics and a few extra characters. I have been playing around recently with trying to relax those rules to allow more flexible object ids, specifically allowing UTF-8 object ids.

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 11, OK: 15, UNKNOWN: 4

2013-02-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Feb 20, 2013, at 15:48 , Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 01:00:02AM +, Zope tests summarizer wrote: This is the summary for test reports received on the zope-tests list between 2013-02-18 00:00:00 UTC and 2013-02-19 00:00:00 UTC: I finally got tired

Re: [Zope-dev] when did transaction lose the ability to be usable as a context manager?

2013-02-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Feb 6, 2013, at 11:54 , Duncan Booth duncan.bo...@suttoncourtenay.org.uk wrote: Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote: Hi All, I used to do this: import transaction with transaction: ... print 'hello' ... Traceback (most recent call last): File console, line 1, in

[Zope-dev] Changing id generation in OFS CopyContainer

2013-01-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I want to use INameChooser to select the id of copied content. This is currently not possible since manage_pasteObject does not pass the object to be pasted to _get_id. I added a new wichert-ofs-paste-naming branch to extend _get_id to make that possible. Are there any objections to merging

[Zope-dev] Zope2 git mirror not updating?

2013-01-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I noticed that the Zope2 git mirror does not appear to be updating. Looking at https://github.com/zopefoundation/Zope/commits/2.13 it doesn't have any commits after November 15, while subversion has more recent commits from Hanno and Maurits. Did an updating process break? Or did development

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope2 git mirror not updating?

2013-01-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Jan 11, 2013, at 14:10 , Jens Vagelpohl j...@dataflake.org wrote: On Jan 11, 2013, at 14:07 , Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote: I noticed that the Zope2 git mirror does not appear to be updating. Looking at https://github.com/zopefoundation/Zope/commits/2.13 it doesn't have

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.formlib's action decorator return Action() object, not the decorated function. Why?

2012-09-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Sep 16, 2012, at 07:28, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 01:44:30PM +0200, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote: After years and years of heavily using zope.formlib it suddenly struck me that the zope.formlib.form.action decorator returns an Action() object instead of

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 21, OK: 19

2012-09-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 09/06/2012 10:58 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 01:00:01AM +, Zope tests summarizer wrote: [2]FAILED winbot / z3c.coverage_py_265_32 https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2012-September/067652.html [3]FAILED winbot / z3c.coverage_py_265_32

Re: [Zope-dev] We need to change how code ownership works.

2012-08-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 08/20/2012 12:39 PM, Charlie Clark wrote: Am 20.08.2012, 12:27 Uhr, schrieb Robert Niederreiter r...@squarewave.at: even the linux kernel guys seem to prefer the benefits of github. https://github.com/torvalds/linux Yes, promotional materials would have nothing to do with the commercial

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
. github allows pull requests from a different branch within the same repository which makes this very easy. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zc.buildout/ Moved to github

2012-08-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Foundation one? The author has also never been listed as the foundation but Jim personally, which seems to imply zc.buildout never was Zope Foundation-owned software. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.i18n plural form support

2012-05-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
is supported by xgettext by default. Zope tools like i18nduder have to be adjusted (they don't support ungettext right now). I already adjusted lingua by Wichert Akkerman (https://github.com/tmassman/lingua) - the pull request is still open. If I remember correctly that pull request is waiting

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.i18n plural form support

2012-05-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 05/18/2012 10:07 AM, Thomas Massmann wrote: Hi, I can do it. But I'm not that familiar with Pylons/Pyramid right now. So this will basically take some time. But, yes ;) translationstring is a very simple package that doesn't have any Pylons/Pyramid dependencies itself. It shouldn't be

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 release management

2012-02-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 02/01/2012 02:29 PM, Alex Clark wrote: Actually, they introduced improved Subversion client support late last year: - https://github.com/blog/966-improved-subversion-client-support Unfortunately it is too unstable to be usable. Wichert. ___

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: z3c.form/trunk/setup.py Get ready for 2.6.1 release.

2012-01-31 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On Tue 31 Jan 2012 08:24:24 AM CET, David Glick wrote: On 1/30/12 11:15 PM, Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello, I think we need to automate sdist upload, the .mo files are missing from the release. Any ideas other than patching setup.py to create the .mo files automatically? See zest.releaser [1]

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 WSGI investigation

2012-01-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 01/03/2012 10:04 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Jan 3, 2012, at 09:34 , Sylvain Viollon wrote: We use Paster as well in the stack, and use it to configure the Python logging process, you can configure there a logging to syslog, and after having a central syslog server. I think it is more

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2 WSGI investigation

2012-01-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 01/01/2012 08:39 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi, There are three known WSGI implementations of the Zope 2 publisher. I've had a look at them and made some notes about what I think provides the best story: ## Zope 2.13 WSGIPublisher Pros: * Allows distributed transaction management with

Re: [Zope-dev] Supporting interworking with repository branches on github

2011-11-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 11/24/2011 01:29 AM, Florian Friesdorf wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 09:50:49 -0500, Tres Seavertsea...@palladion.com wrote: Second, it is already feasible to work with modern VCSes against the existing SVN repository: I've been doing it with bzr for literally years now; I know of lots of

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 4 roadmap

2011-11-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 11/22/2011 11:13 AM, Sylvain Viollon wrote: Op 17 nov 2011, om 20:57 heeft Tres Seaver het volgende geschreven: Note that there is a counter-trend here among the Pyramid crew: many developers *want* tight integration of authentication, particularly the login forms. I'm not sure I fully

Re: [Zope-dev] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2011-11-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 11/09/2011 09:57 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Any idea what mx1.emailsrvr.com doesn't like? Is it Bejni's address, the email in question or that isn't coming from server1.simplistix.co.uk? The first - it looks like zope.com email isn't configured correctly. Wichert.

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testrunner and nose count doctests differently

2011-11-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 11/03/2011 11:54 AM, Matthew Wilkes wrote: On 2011-11-03, at 0025, Chris Withers wrote: I'm experimenting with using nose as an alternative to zope.testrunner so I can take advantage of the junit and cobertura compatible xml output offered. Using

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 13, OK: 40

2011-10-31 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/31/2011 07:21 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: These are all failures in the following zopeapp test:: - zope/app/applicationcontrol/tests/test_zope_version.py def test_WrongLocale(self): Demonstrate bug 177733 currentPath =

Re: [Zope-dev] Missing Zope2 tarballs

2011-10-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/12/2011 10:45 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Oct 11, 2011, at 18:38 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: I have a buildout that needs http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.7.8/Zope-2.7.8-final.tgz still.. Jim sent me a tarball containing just the binary files from underneath /Products, such as .tgz

Re: [Zope-dev] Missing Zope2 tarballs

2011-10-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
will require at least the final from each series to continue working. Ultimately, I'd love to be able to access all the old tarballs e.g. similar to: I have a buildout that needs http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.7.8/Zope-2.7.8-final.tgz still.. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2011-7-4 11:59, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 06:10:48PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2011-7-3 17:48, Martin Aspeli wrote: FWIW, we have a high-performance, high-load application in production on Plone 4 with collective.beaker relying heavily on sessions, and I'm

Re: [Zope-dev] direction

2011-07-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
of Zope clients. In my experience it depends highly on the memcache client library you use with beaker. With some the results are disastrous, with other it is stable. Where possible I have switched to cookie-based sessions to prevent stability problems. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich

Re: [Zope-dev] versions on zope.org and launchpad.net

2011-06-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
never been used for anything other than it's bugtracker. I would agree that it would be nice to have a single location that lists historic releases, I would expect that to be on zope.org instead of launchpad or some other random third party website. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich

Re: [Zope-dev] Test fixture concepts

2011-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2011-4-20 21:59, Martijn Faassen wrote: On 03/29/2011 02:43 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 3/29/11 14:40 , Stephan Richter wrote: Yeah, Marius led me recently to that path too. Write a narrative in text files and use doc strings of functions to do edge cases (or when you don't have

Re: [Zope-dev] CSRF protection for z3c.form

2011-04-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
you think authentication has something to do with the z3c.form library? Did I miss something? CSRF has nothing to do with authentication. It has to do with securing forms on websites. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.schema

2011-03-31 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/31/11 08:23 , Jan-Jaap Driessen wrote: Hi, I added nl translations to z3c.schema, could someone grant me ('janjaapdriessen') pypi access so I can release this as 0.7.1? Can you reply to my comment on your translation commit? I don't think the current language used in z3c.schema is very

Re: [Zope-dev] Test fixture concepts

2011-03-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/29/11 14:40 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday, March 29, 2011, Jim Fulton wrote: so I may forgo them. Which is a mistake. You should create separate tests. I typically put large tests, dealing with main use cases where there is a definite flow of activity in '.test' files. I do

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
sounds like exactly that. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/21/11 10:17 , Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote: On 3/20/11 16:12 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Pyramid only does so if you tell it to do so by using config.scan(). You are not obliged to do that, and I have several pyramid projects which do not do any scanning. Not doing scanning has the advantage

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/20/11 16:00 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jim Fultonj...@zope.com wrote: - The mechanism shouldn't require something to grok/analyze the code. The mechanism should be explicit. This is implied by pythonic. I remember Grok being more implicit than

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 3/20/11 16:03 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 3/20/11 16:00 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Jim Fultonj...@zope.com wrote: - The mechanism shouldn't require something to grok/analyze the code. The mechanism should be explicit. This is implied by pythonic

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testbrowser and WebTest (round 2)

2011-01-31 Thread Wichert Akkerman
WebTest wraps the WSGI app object directly and does not require monkeypatching urllib. To send requests to the app under testing you call WebTest post/get methods, which directly call the WSGI app. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.testbrowser/tags/3.10.3/src/zope/testbrowser/tests made room for more tests

2011-01-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 1/24/11 14:03 , Michael Howitz wrote: Log message for revision 119869: made room for more tests Changed: A zope.testbrowser/tags/3.10.3/src/zope/testbrowser/tests/ A zope.testbrowser/tags/3.10.3/src/zope/testbrowser/tests/__init__.py A

Re: [Zope-dev] ConnectionStateError

2011-01-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 1/12/11 14:34 , Godefroid Chapelle wrote: I also wonder what was the reason to deprecate ``zope.thread``. I see it was used by ``zope.component`` to hold thread-safe siteinfo. It has been obsoleted by http://docs.python.org/library/threading.html#threading.local Wichert.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
frequently getting bug reports from users. And it had 742 downloads since July. That is not a huge number, but more than other packages that are not part of the standard Plone/Zope 2/Bluebream dependency tree. If only those bugreports would get some response :) Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2010-12-22 11:13, Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday, December 21, 2010, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I am frequently getting bug reports from users. And it had 742 downloads since July. That is not a huge number, but more than other packages that are not part of the standard Plone/Zope 2

Re: [Zope-dev] Draft of new aggregator

2010-12-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/1/10 09:04 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/1/10 08:59 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2010-12-1 07:43, Christian Theune wrote: Here's the draft we ended up with yesterday: http://dpaste.com/281566/ Can you move the non-OK results above

Re: [Zope-dev] Draft of new aggregator

2010-11-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
/281566/ Can you move the non-OK results above the list of reports received? That way you have the most important information first. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Zope-dev] I want some Python 3 C coding style guidance.

2010-11-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 11/25/10 11:31 , Lennart Regebro wrote: Which style do you prefer? I'll make zope.hookable, zope.i18nmessage and zope.proxy use the same style if we can agree on one. The second. #ifdefs in code make code hard to follow and tend to lead to problems. FWIW the Linux kernel tree has a similar

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zopetoolkit/doc/source/releaseteam/ minutes of ztk releaseteam meeting 11/09

2010-11-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 11/18/10 11:16 , Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote: +The ZTK would like to use distribute by default. Is the distribute project still alive? The reason I ask is that my recent experience is that bugs reported in setuptools are fixed very quickly, while there is no response from the distribute team.

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: zopetoolkit/doc/source/releaseteam/ minutes of ztk releaseteam meeting 11/09

2010-11-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 11/18/10 16:50 , Tres Seaver wrote: I'm -1 on preferring 'distribute' in any overt way in the ZTK. Folks who want it can already use it when bootstrapping a buildout:: +1 (on your -1) Wichert. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] PAS CookieAuthHelper and insufficient privileges

2010-10-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/12/10 02:21 , Laurence Rowe wrote: I'm currently implementing single sign on across Plone sites but have run into a bit of an issue with the CookieAuthHelper. Unauthorized accesses are redirected to its login_path attribute even when a user is already logged in. Plone works around this

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/7/10 08:52 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/6/10 18:33 , Tres Seaver wrote: +1 for dropping the test: if we aren't going to try to fix it to pass, then scrap it. Note that I actually feel the same way about *all* the every-day failures:

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/7/10 11:09 , Patrick Gerken wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:50, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 10/7/10 08:52 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: For me personally the value has dropped so far that I am mostly ignoring those emails. They are hard to parse to begin with and there are

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/7/10 11:26 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net wrote: Perhaps more important is brevity. If the mail was a simple thing with a maximum of 15 lines or so where you can immediately see if something is wrong or not it would be much

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/7/10 11:35 , Patrick Gerken wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:28, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 10/7/10 11:26 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: +1 for a brief summary, the direct links to the build results are still important though and should be somewhere in the mail Please

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.recipe.i18n

2010-10-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/6/10 09:53 , yuppie wrote: Hi! Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote: This afternoon I merged the gary-0.8.0 branch for z3c.recipe.i18n. The recipe now uses and depends on zc.buildout-1.5.1 features. I'd like to release this merge as 0.8.0 as this make it possible to move grok and the

Re: [Zope-dev] Extending Zope2 bin/instance run

2010-09-09 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/3/10 18:21 , Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wichert Akkerman wrote: I have noticed that now that we are almost exclusively using eggs to distribute our software using bin/instance run has become difficult: often the script you want to run is located

Re: [Zope-dev] Extending Zope2 bin/instance run

2010-09-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
are using it for non-Plone systems as well. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https

Re: [Zope-dev] Extending Zope2 bin/instance run

2010-09-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2010-9-5 16:03, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 2010-9-4 00:43, Chris Withers wrote: On 03/09/2010 17:21, Tres Seaver wrote: I am not sure if this is best done in plone.recipe.zope2instance or Zope2.Startup.zopectl. They have differing versions of ZopeCmd. Perhaps the plone.recipe.zope2instance

[Zope-dev] Extending Zope2 bin/instance run

2010-09-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I have noticed that now that we are almost exclusively using eggs to distribute our software using bin/instance run has become difficult: often the script you want to run is located inside an egg which makes to path to it hard to predict. This is not the most user friendly command:

Re: [Zope-dev] Extending Zope2 bin/instance run

2010-09-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/3/10 10:27 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net wrote: I have noticed that now that we are almost exclusively using eggs to distribute our software using bin/instance run has become difficult: often the script you want to run is

Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting today at 15:00 UTC

2010-08-31 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 8/31/10 10:32 , Hanno Schlichting wrote: Hi. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: our weekly meeting is coming up today at 15:00 UTC. I won't make it to todays meeting, so some notes upfront. - Supporting Python 2.7 I thought the current plan is to

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: ETag support for zope.browserresource

2010-08-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
by providing an adapter on the request. I would suggest request and context, so it is more generally useful. I suspect plone.caching already has such an adapter. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org

2010-08-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 8/4/10 17:38 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: IMHO trying to come up with some kind of programmatic algorithm to judge a bit of documentation as good enough to show is insane. I'm not going to attempt it. Fair enough. Maybe shitty (for some definition of shitty, as someone else would say)

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 8/2/10 13:40 , Martijn Faassen wrote: On 07/31/2010 07:22 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Here's a followup on a docs.zope.org automation task I took over during one of the Zope developer IRC metings[1]. The task was to provide individual package documentation, if it exists, directly underneath

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 8/2/10 16:46 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 2 August 2010 22:40, Jens Vagelpohlj...@dataflake.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 16:36 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday, August 02, 2010, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: 'll have to look at that. Currently, the

Re: [Zope-dev] Class advisors in Python 3

2010-07-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/30/10 13:31 , Baiju M wrote: Hi, Does class advisors like 'implements' and 'adapts' are going to work in Python 3 ? If not, should we discourage its usage now ? Regardless if they work or not I would love to have a decorator version of them. Wichert.

Re: [Zope-dev] chinese text and zope.index

2010-07-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/26/10 14:52 , Manabu TERADA wrote: Hi I think zope.index will not work for indexing simplified or traditional Chinese. That is my observation of zope.index when I was working on Plone4 CJK indexing. However by looking at SVN record of zope.indexing, I see some changes. It could be

[Zope-dev] chinese text and zope.index

2010-07-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
better in that I got search results, but there seems to be little relation between my query and the result. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Zope-dev] Help review #181754

2010-07-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
with randomly broken/bit-flipped input to test robustness. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope-dev] Help review #181754

2010-07-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
that the request won't make it to the application. Is that assumption testable? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] Help review #181754

2010-07-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
an unparsable request to the application. I'm not sure I agree. Like everything else servers have bugs, so it can't hurt to test how your application would behave given certain server bugs. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: [Zope-dev] ZEO TempStorage: Odd behavior on ZEO restart

2010-07-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/15/10 17:03 , Dragos Chirila wrote: Hi Sebastian, Why don’t you consider to use memcached for caching the results instead of using sessions? By using this, Zeo server/Zeo clients restart wont affect cached data. or plone.memoize, using either a RAMCache or memcached as backend.

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ - LP #143533: Instead of showing 0.0.0.0 as server name when no

2010-07-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/14/10 16:19 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Log message for revision 114741: - LP #143533: Instead of showing 0.0.0.0 as server name when no specific listening IP is configured for the HTTP server, do a socket lookup to show the current server's fully qualified name. Can I object to

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ - LP #143533: Instead of showing 0.0.0.0 as server name when no

2010-07-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/14/10 16:43 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/14/10 16:28 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 7/14/10 16:19 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Log message for revision 114741: - LP #143533: Instead of showing 0.0.0.0 as server name when no specific

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: Zope/branches/2.12/ - LP #143533: Instead of showing 0.0.0.0 as server name when no

2010-07-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 7/14/10 17:14 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/14/10 17:00 , Andreas Jung wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I don't mind doing this for a SERVER_NAME in the response, but looking at the diff from the commit email you also changed the startup

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 2.7 and the ZTK - three test failures

2010-07-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
in exception formatting. Perhaps a policy to check exceptions using a try/except or self.assertRaises instead of relying on exact formatting would be useful? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.i18messageid

2010-07-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
to allow specifying features to be installed for a given egg. That would be a very welcome change for SQLAlchemy as well: it has an optional C extension to speed of marshalling data from SQL responses. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net It is simple to make things. http

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.sendmail and critical transaction errors.

2010-06-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 6/24/10 09:46 , Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/24/10 09:30 , Chris Withers wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: The misconfiguration of the mail host in transactional mode *does* cause the server to go into a lockdown mode (because errors are not supposed

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form release

2010-05-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/15/10 09:59 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 15 May 2010 15:39, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net mailto:wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 5/10/10 17:24 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: I fixed a few issues in z3c.form today. Can anyone make a 2.3.4 release? Since I got no reaction

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form release

2010-05-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/17/10 15:14 , Gediminas Paulauskas wrote: 2010/5/17 Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net: On 5/15/10 09:59 , Martin Aspeli wrote: On 15 May 2010 15:39, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net mailto:wich...@wiggy.net wrote: On 5/10/10 17:24 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: I fixed

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form issue tracker

2010-05-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/10/10 20:16 , Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wichert Akkerman wrote: Where should bugreports for z3c.form be submitted? Its documentation does not list an issue tracker, and there is no z3c.form project on launchpad. I just created one: https

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form release

2010-05-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/10/10 17:24 , Wichert Akkerman wrote: I fixed a few issues in z3c.form today. Can anyone make a 2.3.4 release? Since I got no reaction I'll repeat this request: can someone please make a new z3c.form release? Looking at the pypi page there is no shortage of people with the ability to do

[Zope-dev] z3c.form issue tracker

2010-05-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Where should bugreports for z3c.form be submitted? Its documentation does not list an issue tracker, and there is no z3c.form project on launchpad. Wichert. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev **

[Zope-dev] z3c.form release

2010-05-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I fixed a few issues in z3c.form today. Can anyone make a 2.3.4 release? Wichert. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists -

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/3/10 12:20 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: Good evening :) If you have a specific issue with me, you might contact me in private. But with your follow-ups this turned into a more general issue. No, I think this needs to be public as the ZTK is a public project that I

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/3/10 12:34 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Hanno Schlichting wrote: I expect us to define the process around package releases and updating the ZTK. It's not entirely clear to me who should and who is allowed to update the ZTK definition. We'll figure things out and once we have I'll

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/3/10 12:52 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I suggest that we wait impatiently for the ZTK steering committee to come up with a useful policy instead of trying to do their work when none of us volunteered for the task. I don't understand your suggestion. Could you

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/3/10 13:07 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 5/3/10 12:51 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Can we please not rehash an old discussion or make this personal? This has all been discussed too often already. As far as I know, I've *never* discussed

Re: [Zope-dev] Hanno, please update the ZTK

2010-05-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 5/3/10 15:41 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 13:22, Martijn Faassenfaas...@startifact.com wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Sorry, my mistake. I meant the ZTK release manage group, not the now defunct ZTK steering group, Well, if it's defunct

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.test.doctest made into monkey-patches (Was: Circular dependency hell.)

2010-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/20/10 13:37 , Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 20 April 2010, Lennart Regebro wrote: It replaces the custom doctest.py with monkey-patches. I will report these to the Python bugtracker as well, although I have no hope of getting them into Python 2.7. But that doesn't matter much. :)

Re: [Zope-dev] Unauthorized handling in Zope2

2010-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/20/10 09:51 , yuppie wrote: Hi! Wichert Akkerman wrote: v is the html as generated by my view. Reraising the exception transfers control to the bare except in ZPublisher.Publish.publish_module_standard, which generates the standard site error page and returns that. Could

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