Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-20 Thread Adrian Hungate
quot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "R. David Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Casey Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-18 Thread Wei He
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Wei He writes: > > ... > > 2. From the website developers' point of view, there are already many > > guidlines on how to create a good webpage. Among them are using the HTTP > > Last-modification header to take the advantages of client cache. > I

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-18 Thread Dieter Maurer
Wei He writes: > ... > 2. From the website developers' point of view, there are already many > guidlines on how to create a good webpage. Among them are using the HTTP > Last-modification header to take the advantages of client cache. I think you overestimate the importance of accurate "Last

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-18 Thread Oliver Bleutgen
Toby Dickenson wrote: >> Rendering may produce side effects. But "HEAD" requests >> are required by HTTP not to have side effects. > > > RFC 2616 section 9.4 states that "HEAD" is identical to "GET" in this respect, > and both should have no side effects. > > > On Tuesday 18 Jun 2002 10:26

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-18 Thread Toby Dickenson
> Rendering may produce side effects. But "HEAD" requests > are required by HTTP not to have side effects. RFC 2616 section 9.4 states that "HEAD" is identical to "GET" in this respect, and both should have no side effects. On Tuesday 18 Jun 2002 10:26 am, Wei He wrote: > I think the last

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-18 Thread Steve Alexander
Wei He wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Oliver Bleutgen wrote: > > >>>Would please go a little bit deeper giving an example what information >>>HEAD requests don't pass to the server, although it's beyond this topic. >> >>HEAD requests are required to have no side effects. On the other hand >>the

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-18 Thread Wei He
On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Oliver Bleutgen wrote: > > > > Would please go a little bit deeper giving an example what information > > HEAD requests don't pass to the server, although it's beyond this topic. > > HEAD requests are required to have no side effects. On the other hand > they are required

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-18 Thread Oliver Bleutgen
Wei He wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Dieter Maurer wrote: > > >>R. David Murray writes: >> > ... >> > Well, there's two aspects to this. The first one is the quesiton of >> > *why* the last modified header is currently that of the outermost >> > page template. That's a [EMAIL PROTECTED] questi

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-16 Thread R. David Murray
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Chris Withers wrote: > Why do you think that? Surely all zope users will care about this? ;-) > Besides, that's not the point, re-read Casey's email more carefully... > > > Although I'm new to Zope, I'm not new to mailing list. I know the > > mailing list rule but I just don't

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-16 Thread Wei He
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Chris Withers wrote: > > > BTW: This list if for development *of* Zope, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list is > > > better for questions bout developing *with* Zope. > > > > > Thanks for your codes indeed. I posted it here because I thought only > > people have high developing skil

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-16 Thread Chris Withers
> > BTW: This list if for development *of* Zope, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list is > > better for questions bout developing *with* Zope. > > > Thanks for your codes indeed. I posted it here because I thought only > people have high developing skill care about whether their web > pages are up-to-dat

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-15 Thread Wei He
On 14 Jun 2002, Casey Duncan wrote: > BTW: This list if for development *of* Zope, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list is > better for questions bout developing *with* Zope. > Thanks for your codes indeed. I posted it here because I thought only people have high developing skill care about whether their

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-14 Thread Steve Alexander
Casey Duncan wrote: > BTW: This list if for development *of* Zope, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list is > better for questions bout developing *with* Zope. > > On to your question: > > There is no automatic way in which DTML can do this for you. This is > simply because doesn't tell Zope what foo is.

Re: [Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-14 Thread Casey Duncan
BTW: This list if for development *of* Zope, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list is better for questions bout developing *with* Zope. On to your question: There is no automatic way in which DTML can do this for you. This is simply because doesn't tell Zope what foo is. Is it a document or a script that

[Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-13 Thread Wei He
Hi all, Say you have 1_html with only one line: When you HEAD http://xxx/1_html, you get Last-Modified refelecting only the last modification time of 1_html, while most people is expecting it to be newer one of 1_html and 2_html. Does anyone know of a walk-around like using the max() of bo