Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-31 Thread Chris Withers
Adrian Hungate wrote: Bottom line, internal bugs to one side, Z2.x works a particular way, and is documented as doing so. This is a powerful and useful feature, and we are likely to severly impact the power and process of Zopeing by removing it. If we are still heading for 10x we should be

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-31 Thread Lennart Regebro
From: Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I'm not so enthusiastic about it. Implicit acquisition in URLs leads to subtle bugs. One thing that just about every Zope site does is acquire images using a simple relative URL, but that makes the images much less cacheable. Not if you do it

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Wei He
On Thu, 30 May 2002, Chris Withers wrote: People will be really confused to see such results: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZopeBook/Documentation http://www.zope.org/Images Why would they see such URLs? Normally would not. But if I know such a site is managed by Zope, I can

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Lennart Regebro
From: Wei He [EMAIL PROTECTED] An object (say index_html) is inherited by child objects of the site say Document to make http://www.domain.com/Document share the upper level index_html. This sounds good but acutally not I think. It not only sounds good, but it is good.No, it' is fantastic.

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Shane Hathaway
Lennart Regebro wrote: From: Wei He [EMAIL PROTECTED] An object (say index_html) is inherited by child objects of the site say Document to make http://www.domain.com/Document share the upper level index_html. This sounds good but acutally not I think. It not only sounds good, but it is

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thursday 30 May 2002 10:29 am, Lennart Regebro wrote: It not only sounds good, but it is good.No, it' is fantastic. Amazing. Totally unbelivingly great! It's one of the best and main features of Zope. Is anyone relying on your site to provide information? How do you test your site to make

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Steve Alexander
Toby Dickenson wrote: My conclusions are: a. implicit acquisition is dangerous b. acquisition that searches outside the containment hierarchy is evil. Im not keeping up with Zope 3 development. how does Zope 3 handle acquisition? There is no implicit acquisition in Zope 3. If

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Adrian Hungate
://www.haqa.co.uk - Original Message - From: Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wei He [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic On Thursday 30 May 2002 10:29 am, Lennart Regebro wrote

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Casey Duncan
] To: Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wei He [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic On Thursday 30 May 2002 10:29 am, Lennart Regebro wrote: It not only sounds good, but it is good.No, it' is fantastic. Amazing. Totally

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-30 Thread Adrian Hungate
, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic The namspace traversal in Zope 2 severely violates the principle of least surprise IMO. Although you can use this to clever ends, it opens up many doors to misuse of a site or even significant security holes. For instance, it used to be possible

[Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-29 Thread Wei He
Hi all, I have tried Zope for a week and found a logic problem. An object (say index_html) is inherited by child objects of the site say Document to make http://www.domain.com/Document share the upper level index_html. This sounds good but acutally not I think. People will be really confused

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope logic

2002-05-29 Thread Chris Withers
Hi, Wei He wrote: An object (say index_html) is inherited by child objects of the site say Document to make http://www.domain.com/Document share the upper level index_html. This sounds good but acutally not I think. So do a lot of other people, but not for your reasons ;-) People will be