[Zope-dev] manage_main select ... / don't work with Mozilla

2001-03-15 Thread Cyril Elkaim


   Hi,

   The last builds of Mozilla do not accept anymore this kind of HTML tags:
select  /
   I have discuss with Moz developers and they say it's not in the standard.
So now we must use something like select  All the other tags must follow
the same syntax, of course.

The problem with the management interface of Zope is it uses '/' in many
places. So it's not possible to use Moz for creating new objects for example.

So should it be possible to do something about it :-)

Cyril

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Re: [Zope-dev] manage_main select ... / don't work with Mozilla

2001-03-15 Thread Casey Duncan

Cyril Elkaim wrote:
 
Hi,
 
The last builds of Mozilla do not accept anymore this kind of HTML tags:
 select  /
I have discuss with Moz developers and they say it's not in the standard.
 So now we must use something like select  All the other tags must follow
 the same syntax, of course.
 
 The problem with the management interface of Zope is it uses '/' in many
 places. So it's not possible to use Moz for creating new objects for example.
 
 So should it be possible to do something about it :-)
 
 Cyril
 

So then Mozilla doesn't support XHTML?? That is where that whole
trailing slash
convention is coming from.

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RE: [Zope-dev] manage_main select ... / don't work with Mozilla

2001-03-15 Thread Brian Lloyd

 I have discuss with Moz developers and they say it's not 
 in the standard.
  So now we must use something like select  All the other 
 tags must follow
  the same syntax, of course.
 
 So then Mozilla doesn't support XHTML?? That is where that whole
 trailing slash
 convention is coming from.

I think what he's saying is that Moz used to tolerate a 
form like:

select name="foo" /
...
/select

...which doesn't make much sense (and appeared in the Zope 
UI by mistake). I believe that it is still ok to use the 
XHTML form for non-container tags, e.g.:

hr /

The 'select' tag problem in the Zope UI has since been fixed
and the fix will be in 2.3.1 b2 (out today).

Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Zope-dev] manage_main select ... / don't work with Mozilla

2001-03-15 Thread Cyril Elkaim

Yes, I know, but that's what they say :-). I've already that problem with
the script tag and they refuse to change this behavior, at least for now...

 Cyril

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Re: [Zope-dev] manage_main select ... / don't work with Mozilla

2001-03-15 Thread Cyril Elkaim

   
Matt wrote:
select should have a corresponding /select right?  In which case no,
it should not have a trailing slash.  They are only needed for single tags
that have no corresponding close, eg br / hr / etc.

  I agree but in the management interface of Zope it's not the case. You
have select ... / Some stuff... /select and you should have
select stuff /select. That's the reason why it doesn't work anymore with
Mozilla.

Cyril

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Re: [Zope-dev] manage_main select ... / don't work with Mozilla

2001-03-15 Thread Cyril Elkaim


Brian wrote:

I think what he's saying is that Moz used to tolerate a 
form like:

select name="foo" /
...
/select

...which doesn't make much sense (and appeared in the Zope 
UI by mistake). I believe that it is still ok to use the 
XHTML form for non-container tags, e.g.:

hr /

The 'select' tag problem in the Zope UI has since been fixed
and the fix will be in 2.3.1 b2 (out today).


YES!

Cyril 

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Re: [Zope-dev] manage_main select ... / don't work with Mozilla

2001-03-15 Thread Duncan Booth

On 15 Mar 2001, you wrote in local.zope.dev:

   
Matt wrote:
select should have a corresponding /select right?  In which case
no, 
it should not have a trailing slash.  They are only needed for single
tags that have no corresponding close, eg br / hr / etc.

  I agree but in the management interface of Zope it's not the case.
  You 
have select ... / Some stuff... /select and you should have
select stuff /select. That's the reason why it doesn't work anymore
with 
Mozilla.

It just seems to be one place in zope's code. OFS/dtml/main.dtml, line 43 
needs the spurious slash removing.

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Re: [Zope-dev] manage_main select ... / don't work with Mozilla

2001-03-15 Thread Gilles Durys

Brian Lloyd wrote:
 
  I have discuss with Moz developers and they say it's not
  in the standard.
   So now we must use something like select  All the other
  tags must follow
   the same syntax, of course.
 
  So then Mozilla doesn't support XHTML?? That is where that whole
  trailing slash
  convention is coming from.
 
 I think what he's saying is that Moz used to tolerate a
 form like:
 
 select name="foo" /
 ...
 /select
 
 ...which doesn't make much sense (and appeared in the Zope
 UI by mistake). I believe that it is still ok to use the
 XHTML form for non-container tags, e.g.:
 
 hr /
 
 The 'select' tag problem in the Zope UI has since been fixed
 and the fix will be in 2.3.1 b2 (out today).
BTW, this has been discussed in Bugzilla here:
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71577

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Re: [Zope-dev] manage_main select ... / don't work with Mozilla

2001-03-15 Thread Martijn Pieters

On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 08:32:14AM -0700, Casey Duncan wrote:
 Cyril Elkaim wrote:
  
 Hi,
  
 The last builds of Mozilla do not accept anymore this kind of HTML tags:
  select  /
 I have discuss with Moz developers and they say it's not in the standard.
  So now we must use something like select  All the other tags must follow
  the same syntax, of course.
  
  The problem with the management interface of Zope is it uses '/' in many
  places. So it's not possible to use Moz for creating new objects for example.
  
  So should it be possible to do something about it :-)
  
  Cyril
  
 
 So then Mozilla doesn't support XHTML?? That is where that whole
 trailing slash
 convention is coming from.

Hmm.. I am not sure if the Mozilla people are interpreting this right.

The XHTML spec does say that tags that must have a seperate closing tag
according to the HTML spec (they are not empty, they just don't have
content), are best rendered in XHTML with a closing tag as well.

But, wether or not the Mozilla browser is right in rejecting select /
and p /, if the Zope DTML contains such tags, we are not following the
XHTML recommendation and I consider that as a bug. Could you someone file
a Collector issue?

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Re: [Zope-dev] manage_main select ... / don't work with Mozilla

2001-03-15 Thread Steve Alexander

Duncan Booth wrote:

 On 15 Mar 2001, you wrote in local.zope.dev:

   
 Matt wrote:
 
 select should have a corresponding /select right?  In which case
 no, 
 it should not have a trailing slash.  They are only needed for single
 tags that have no corresponding close, eg br / hr / etc.
 
  I agree but in the management interface of Zope it's not the case.
  You 
 have select ... / Some stuff... /select and you should have
 select stuff /select. That's the reason why it doesn't work anymore
 with 
 Mozilla.
 
 
 It just seems to be one place in zope's code. OFS/dtml/main.dtml, line 43 
 needs the spurious slash removing.

It's always worth looking in the Collector for this sort of thing.

   http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/2020/view

   Submitted On: Mar 4, 2001 5:01 am

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