Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/ - Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports

2009-05-28 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Roger Ineichen wrote: [snip] The only thing I could say about this concept is that we didn't start to remove #BBB marked imports. Just wait till we start remove the BBB imports and the packages from install_requires ... Since we were hardly in a hurry removing deprecation

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/- Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports

2009-05-28 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Stephan Richter wrote: [snip] I have been following this discussion and just want to mention that I fully agree with Roger. If you release a final version of Zope or a package that spews deprecation warnings or has not fixed the imports, then this should be considered bad releasing.

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/- Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports

2009-05-28 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Martijn Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/- Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports Hey, Stephan Richter wrote: [snip] I have been following this discussion and just want to mention that I fully agree with Roger. If you release

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/- Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports

2009-05-28 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Roger Ineichen wrote: [snip] My fear is that deprecated imports will pull in packages and act as the single point of an egg declaration. If someone removes a dependency during a deprecation import cleanup lets say zope.formlib in z3c.form from version 1.9.0 to 2.0.0 then it's possible

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/- Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports

2009-05-28 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Martjin Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/- Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports Hey, Roger Ineichen wrote: [snip] My fear is that deprecated imports will pull in packages and act as the single point of an egg declaration

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/ - Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports

2009-05-27 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Reinout Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/ - Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports On 2009-05-26, Roger Ineichen d...@projekt01.ch wrote: Some people think it's better to have a nice clean log then deprecation warnings on server startup

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/ - Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports

2009-05-27 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Before we have this discussion yet again, I will record the official stance in the zope toolkit decisions document, and I'll quote it here: * When code moves to a new location to import it from (in the same or another package), use a ``from foo import bar`` statement, with a

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/ - Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports

2009-05-27 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Martijn Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/ - Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports Hi there, Before we have this discussion yet again, I will record the official stance in the zope toolkit decisions document, and I'll quote it here

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/ - Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:06:03PM +0200, Roger Ineichen wrote: I think there is something else wrong if someone is using code with deprecation warnings in a production setup. Do you not use any third-party code? Often, the deprecation warnings are emitted by code not under your control. - PW

Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/- Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports

2009-05-27 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Paul Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] SVN: zope.app.http/trunk/- Replacedthedependency on zope.deprecation with BBB imports On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:06:03PM +0200, Roger Ineichen wrote: I think there is something else wrong if someone is using code with deprecation warnings