Re: [Zope-dev] Any thoughts on when Zope 2.7 beta1 might beavailable?

2003-03-21 Thread Chris McDonough
Craeg -

The safest thing to do is to build Zope from source using Python 2.2.  I
do not recommend replacing the binary distro's Python with Python 2.2
(using C extensions compiled with earlier versions of Python will at
least generate warnings and may actually cause problems).  

This is obviously going to be a problem Windows. I don't have any
answers for you there.  This is one of the reasons that Zope is 'not
officially supported' under Python 2.2.  There are no Py22/Zope2.6.X
binary distros available and no step-by-step upgrade procedures to
retrofit an existing 2.6 binary installation with Python 2.2.

About the best you can hope for is to persuade someone to compile Zope
on Windows under Python 2.2 for you, and even then it's not clear that
Zope will be guaranteed to run as a service (the Wise installer script
ZC uses to make binary Windows releases does all of this magic and is
not distributed with Zope).  Or wait for 2.7.

- C

PS - this is a good excuse to ditch Windows. ;-)

On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 12:23, Craeg K Strong wrote:
> Thanks much for the quick response.   And good news, too!
> 
> Hum.  In your opinion, what is the best way to do this?   My constraints:
> 
> - I use both windows 2000 and Red Hat Linux 8
> - I do *not* have a C/C++ compiler on Windows
> 
> Do I need to build Zope from source in order to use Python 2.2? 
> Or can I simply get rid of $ZOPE/lib/python2.1 and replace it with
> $ZOPE/lib/python2.2  (retrofit)?  What are the ramifications of this choice?
> 
> Sorry for so many questions; I am trying to get the most stable setup I can,
> while doing the least amount of setup work :-)
> 
> Thanks very much!
> 
> --Craeg
> 
> BTW, The answers to these questions should probably be on zope.org
> or in a wiki somewhere, do you agree?
> 
> Chris McDonough wrote:
> 
> >Hi Craeg,
> >
> >2.6.X appears to work great with Python 2.2.  We even removed the
> >startup warning lately.  I'd go this way were I you as 2.7 is probably
> >still some time away and you almost certainly don't want to be tracking
> >the trunk, as its relatively volatile at the moment.
> >
> >- C
> > 
> >
> >On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 02:42, Craeg K Strong wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Hello:
> >>
> >>I am using multiple third party Python libraries with Zope, and they are 
> >>no longer
> >>supporting Python 2.1.X at all.  I am forced to upgrade to Python 2.2.X
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Zope-dev] Any thoughts on when Zope 2.7 beta1 might beavailable?

2003-03-21 Thread Chris McDonough
Hi Craeg,

2.6.X appears to work great with Python 2.2.  We even removed the
startup warning lately.  I'd go this way were I you as 2.7 is probably
still some time away and you almost certainly don't want to be tracking
the trunk, as its relatively volatile at the moment.

- C
 

On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 02:42, Craeg K Strong wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I am using multiple third party Python libraries with Zope, and they are 
> no longer
> supporting Python 2.1.X at all.  I am forced to upgrade to Python 2.2.X
> 
> As I see it, my options are:
> 
> 1- try to recompile Zope 2.6.1 from source using Python 2.2.2 (and cross 
> my fingers)
> 2- wait for the Zope 2.7
> 
> I think Python 2.2.2 support is the most important feature for me in 
> Zope 2.7 --
> frankly I wouldn't care if that were its *only* new feature beyond what 
> 2.6.1 supports
> 
> Can anyone over at ZC give a rough ballpark estimate for when we might 
> see a first beta
> of 2.7?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --Craeg
> 
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Re: [Zope-dev] Any thoughts on when Zope 2.7 beta1 might beavailable?

2003-03-21 Thread Andreas Jung


--On Freitag, 21. März 2003 2:42 Uhr -0500 Craeg K Strong 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello:

I am using multiple third party Python libraries with Zope, and they are
no longer supporting Python 2.1.X at all.  I am forced to upgrade to
Python 2.2.X
As I see it, my options are:

1- try to recompile Zope 2.6.1 from source using Python 2.2.2 (and cross
my fingers) 2- wait for the Zope 2.7
I think Python 2.2.2 support is the most important feature for me in Zope
2.7 -- frankly I wouldn't care if that were its *only* new feature beyond
what 2.6.1 supports
2.7alpha had been planned for February  however there seems to be a delay
(maybe because of the new-install-branch which seems to be a very
important improvement). Feel free to work with the CVS head. And maybe
anyone from ZC should update the 2.7 wiki.
-aj







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