Re: [Zope-dev] I smell commercial interest: PLOPE

2002-10-04 Thread Nils Kassube

Andy McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 We thought Plop was a better name that Plope btw ;)

This would only cause confusion with Plob. All the good names are
already taken :-)

http://lki-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~kirschke/diplom/




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[Zope-dev] I smell commercial interest: PLOPE

2002-10-03 Thread Diogenese Teufelsdrockh
I agree with you James. To anyone who considers the plausibility of Zope and Plone merging; consider these facts:

As they look over the world's painful panorama of war and terror, some people conclude that it is too late, that no amount of information or activity could possibly break the mold and stray from the path of conventional wisdom. But those who take that pessimistic view understand neither PLOPE Corporation nor its current rung on the ladder to total power. In the text that follows, I won't bother discussing the flaws in PLOPE Corporation's logic, because it certainly doesn't use any logic. If our goal is to discuss the relationship between three converging and ever-growing factions -- lackluster, feckless devotees of conspiracy theories, jejune, childish ethically bankrupt-types, and rash lunatics -- then we must consider various means to that end. Because "epididymodeferential" is a word that can be interpreted in many ways, we must make it clear that the biggest difference between me and PLOPE Corporation is that PLOPE Corporation wants to make bribery legal and part of business as usual. I, on the other hand, want to sound the bugle of liberty. 
This is sufficiently illustrated by the ridicule with which PLOPE Corporation's ethics are treated by everyone other than the worst types of mean-spirited deadbeats I've ever seen. That, in itself, will condemn us to live with the most imperious yobbos you'll ever see in the coming days. I don't need to tell you that most of us are now painfully aware of PLOPE Corporation's batty slogans. That should be self-evident. What is less evident is that PLOPE Corporation wants nothing less than to develop a Pavlovian reflex in us, to make us afraid to shatter the adage that freedom must be abolished in order for people to be more secure and comfortable. Its shills then wonder, "What's wrong with that?" Well, there's not much to be done with bitter Machiavellians who can't figure out what's wrong with that, but the rest of us can plainly see that you don't need to be a rocket scientist to detect the subtext of this letter. But just in case it's too subliminal for some, let me thrust it into your face right here: If PLOPE Corporation continues to drag everything that is truly great into the gutter, crime will escalate as schools deteriorate, corruption increases, and quality of life plummets. PLOPE Corporation pompously claims that all major world powers are controlled by a covert group of "insiders". That sort of nonsense impresses many people, unfortunately. This is equivalent to saying that many people are shocked when I tell them that we must speak neither of the past nor of the far future but rather focus on the here and now, specifically on the daunting matter of PLOPE Corporation's quasi-unstable, churlish treatises. And I'm shocked that so many people are shocked. You see, I had thought everybody already knew that if you read between the lines of PLOPE Corporation's canards, you'll unmistakably find that PLOPE Corporation's apparatchiks maintain that "PLOPE Corporation is the one who will lead us to our great shining future." First off, that's a lousy sentence. If they had written that PLOPE Corporation has an utter disregard for human life, then that quote would have had more validity. As it stands, PLOPE Corporation's cop-outs are continually evolving into more and more dishonest incarnations. Here, I'm not just talking about evolution in a simply Darwinist sense; I'm also talking about how PLOPE Corporation's lapdogs allege, after performing shoddy research and utilizing threadbare scholarship, that a number of their enemies are planning to infringe upon our most important constitutional rights. Don't make the mistake of thinking otherwise. PLOPE Corporation does, and that's why in order to solve big problems with it, we must first understand these problems, and to understand them, we must end its control over the minds and souls of countless people. 
Speaking of which, PLOPE Corporation says that the rest of us are an inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at the whim of our betters. That's a stupid thing to say. It's like saying that women are crazed Pavlovian sex-dogs who will salivate at any object even remotely phallic in shape. I'm not the first to mention that to believe that PLOPE Corporation answers to no one is to deceive ourselves. So you see, PLOPE Corporation couldn't encourage every sort of indiscipline and degeneracy in the name of freedom if its life depended on it, which it doesn't.
Yours,
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Re: [Zope-dev] I smell commercial interest: PLOPE

2002-10-03 Thread Andy McKay

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We thought Plop was a better name that Plope btw ;)
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From: Diogenese Teufelsdrockh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 10:33 AM
Subject: [Zope-dev] I smell commercial interest: PLOPE


 I agree with you James.  To anyone who considers the plausibility of Zope
and Plone merging; consider these facts:
 As they look over the world's painful panorama of war and terror, some
people conclude that it is too late, that no amount of information or
activity could possibly break the mold and stray from the path of
conventional wisdom. But those who take that pessimistic view understand
neither PLOPE Corporation nor its current rung on the ladder to total power.
In the text that follows, I won't bother discussing the flaws in PLOPE
Corporation's logic, because it certainly doesn't use any logic. If our goal
is to discuss the relationship between three converging and ever-growing
factions -- lackluster, feckless devotees of conspiracy theories, jejune,
childish ethically bankrupt-types, and rash lunatics -- then we must
consider various means to that end. Because epididymodeferential is a word
that can be interpreted in many ways, we must make it clear that the biggest
difference between me and PLOPE Corporation is that PLOPE Corporation wants
to make bribery legal and part of business as usual. I, on the other hand,
want to sound the bugle of liberty.

 This is sufficiently illustrated by the ridicule with which PLOPE
Corporation's ethics are treated by everyone other than the worst types of
mean-spirited deadbeats I've ever seen. That, in itself, will condemn us to
live with the most imperious yobbos you'll ever see in the coming days. I
don't need to tell you that most of us are now painfully aware of PLOPE
Corporation's batty slogans. That should be self-evident. What is less
evident is that PLOPE Corporation wants nothing less than to develop a
Pavlovian reflex in us, to make us afraid to shatter the adage that freedom
must be abolished in order for people to be more secure and comfortable. Its
shills then wonder, What's wrong with that? Well, there's not much to be
done with bitter Machiavellians who can't figure out what's wrong with that,
but the rest of us can plainly see that you don't need to be a rocket
scientist to detect the subtext of this letter. But just in case it's too
subliminal for some, let me thrust it into your face right here: If PLOPE
Corporation continues to drag everything that is truly great into the
gutter, crime will escalate as schools deteriorate, corruption increases,
and quality of life plummets. PLOPE Corporation pompously claims that all
major world powers are controlled by a covert group of insiders. That sort
of nonsense impresses many people, unfortunately. This is equivalent to
saying that many people are shocked when I tell them that we must speak
neither of the past nor of the far future but rather focus on the here and
now, specifically on the daunting matter of PLOPE Corporation's
quasi-unstable, churlish treatises. And I'm shocked that so many people are
shocked. You see, I had thought everybody already knew that if you read
between the lines of PLOPE Corporation's canards, you'll unmistakably find
that PLOPE Corporation's apparatchiks maintain that PLOPE Corporation is
the one who will lead us to our great shining future. First off, that's a
lousy sentence. If they had written that PLOPE Corporation has an utter
disregard for human life, then that quote would have had more validity. As
it stands, PLOPE Corporation's cop-outs are continually evolving into more
and more dishonest incarnations. Here, I'm not just talking about evolution
in a simply Darwinist sense; I'm also talking about how PLOPE Corporation's
lapdogs allege, after performing shoddy research and utilizing threadbare
scholarship, that a number of their enemies are planning to infringe upon
our most important constitutional rights. Don't make the mistake of thinking
otherwise. PLOPE Corporation does, and that's why in order to solve big
problems with it, we must first understand these problems, and to understand
them, we must end its control over the minds and souls of countless people.

 Speaking of which, PLOPE Corporation says that the rest of us are an
inferior group of people, fit only to be enslaved, beaten, and butchered at
the whim of our betters. That's a stupid thing to say. It's like saying that
women are crazed Pavlovian sex-dogs who will salivate at any object even
remotely phallic in shape. I'm not the first to mention that to believe that
PLOPE Corporation answers to no one is to deceive ourselves. So you see,
PLOPE Corporation couldn't encourage every sort of indiscipline and
degeneracy in the name of freedom if its life depended on it, which it
doesn't.

 Yours,

 Diogenese Teufelsdrockh