[Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, so, we've been running with the steering group for a few weeks now and I'm losing track of things, because we're letting the mailing list do the job of an issue tracking system. (And the one document in SVN.) We need to start using Launchpads tracking mechanisms for issues, filing bugs or

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Theune wrote: We need to start using Launchpads tracking mechanisms for issues, filing bugs or blueprints much earlier and much more often than having threads just sit around in the zope-dev archive and *maybe* get picked up. Can someone document how they work? I have

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Christian Theune
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 09:01 +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Christian Theune wrote: We need to start using Launchpads tracking mechanisms for issues, filing bugs or blueprints much earlier and much more often than having threads just sit around in the zope-dev archive and *maybe*

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi Christian Betreff: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more Hi, so, we've been running with the steering group for a few weeks now and I'm losing track of things, because we're letting the mailing list do the job of an issue tracking system. (And the one

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, I'm okay with using launchpad more, though I do think we shouldn't underestimate the power of a mailbox (I use gmane and a newsreader myself :) and a document with decisions recorded. People can simply bring up an issue again if it hasn't resolved itself, after all. I really don't want

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Sidnei da Silva
Hi Martijn, On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: One question is what launchpad project we should use. The current launchpad is for Zope 3. The steering group isn't about Zope 3. It's about a whole bunch of libraries. Creating a separate launchpad

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Gary Poster
On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: Hi Martijn, On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: One question is what launchpad project we should use. The current launchpad is for Zope 3. The steering group isn't about Zope 3. It's about a

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Christian Theune
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 15:54 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, I'm okay with using launchpad more, though I do think we shouldn't underestimate the power of a mailbox (I use gmane and a newsreader myself :) and a document with decisions recorded. People can simply bring up an issue again

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Baiju M
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Sidnei da Silva sidnei.da.si...@canonical.com wrote: Hi Martijn, On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: One question is what launchpad project we should use. The current launchpad is for Zope 3. The steering group

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: If possible, I think it is better to rename current 'zope3' as 'zope-framework', then create another 'zope3' project.  So that we will get all bugs and blueprints as part of 'zope-framework'. If 'zope-framework' is a project

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Baiju M
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Sidnei da Silva sidnei.da.si...@canonical.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: If possible, I think it is better to rename current 'zope3' as 'zope-framework', then create another 'zope3' project.  So that we will get

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Sidnei da Silva wrote: Hi Martijn, On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: One question is what launchpad project we should use. The current launchpad is for Zope 3. The steering group isn't about Zope 3. It's about a whole bunch of libraries.

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Baiju M wrote: [snip] If possible, I think it is better to rename current 'zope3' as 'zope-framework', then create another 'zope3' project. So that we will get all bugs and blueprints as part of 'zope-framework'. I don't think that's correct at all, as Zope 3 isn't the Zope Framework.

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 19:21 +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: Why would the steering group be a project as part of the Zope Framework? The steering group isn't a project? I'm all for setting something up, but I'm still not clear on what you'd set up. A Zope Framework project group with what

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Baiju M wrote: [snip] But making 'zope3' as a part of 'zope-framework' is not not good idea. Agreed. It's more likely the other way around, but I'm not going to suggest any alterations to the Zope 3 project, as I'm not involved in steering that. :) Regards, Martijn

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Gary Poster
On Mar 25, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Sidnei da Silva wrote: Hi Martijn, On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote: One question is what launchpad project we should use. The current launchpad is for Zope 3. The steering group isn't

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Martijn Faassen
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: If possible, I think it is better to rename current 'zope3' as 'zope-framework', then create another 'zope3' project. So that we will get all bugs and blueprints as part of 'zope-framework'. If

Re: [Zope-dev] Please use launchpad bugtracking/blueprints more

2009-03-25 Thread Tim Cook
Good analysis Gary, Though I would tend to see Zope3 as the umbrella and the various projects (components) under it. Is there REALLY too much bad press vs. good press about Zope3? I don't think so. I think inventing a new name ala, Zope Umbrella is a bad thing. Presenting Zope3 as the