Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Debian and Zope
Thaddeus H. Black wrote: Can you tell us who that maintainer is? Luca De Vitis [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Last known Zope activity: 4 Nov 2003. Hmmm, don't know him. Anyone else know him? Oh well, I guess we'll just have to wait for someone with the necessary Zope and Debian Zen to emerge :-/ cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Debian and Zope
Thaddeus H. Black wrote: This question regards the code in Zope's zpasswd.py. If you know zpasswd.py or are involved in Debian, please reply. Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 releases soon. The Debian Zope package (actually the Debian `zopectl' package) has what Debian calls a Release Critical Bug open against it [http://bugs.debian.org/251038]. Normally, Debian's Zope maintainer would handle such a bug, but the maintainer seems to be inactive this year, so it falls to me to fix it. This is okay. The maintainer's work in earlier years is appreciated. The trouble is, I do not use Zope myself, so I am fixing the bug with limited understanding of the potential consequences of the fix. The part of the Debian fix which affects your Zope source is in zpasswd.py. At present, a user can invoke zpasswd in either of two ways: (1) without command-line options, in which case zpasswd prompts the user on tty for username and password; or (2) with username and password supplied on the command line. How the user cannot presently invoke zpasswd is (3) with username supplied on the command line, so that zpasswd prompts the user on tty for a password only. The Zope installation procedure on Debian requires option (3). With (3), I can cleanly eliminate the Release Critical Bug now and prevent Zope from being dropped from Debian 3.1. Thus I am adding (3) to Debian Zope. Question, please. Does my addition create some subtle problem I should know about? If Zope were coded perfectly cleanly, then the addition of option (3) should create no problem; but you and I have both done enough coding to realize that old code can sometimes depend in strange ways on the odd behavior of even older code. With my small addition, zpasswd now correctly handles (3). Is this okay, or can you think of something specific it might break, something I might not have noticed? I have checked everything I know how to check, but I do not know Zope; you guys do. Regrettably, Zope's public SVN seems to be down as I write these words, so in the unlikely event that someone had already added option (3) to zpasswd.py, I would not know about it. I do understand and respect that, like any good free-software developers, you will probably all want me to update Debian Zope now to Zope's latest version! To this, I must plead that such an update far exceeds the limits of my Zope ignorance (also, it would violate Debian Project policy, which permits me minimally to fix a Release Critical Bug for an inactive maintainer but forbids me from unilaterally hijacking his Debian package). The matter at hand now is not how to include the latest Zope (it is not Debian's usual practice to include the very latest software in any event) but rather how to keep Zope in Debian at all. This is a good cause and I am pleased to help. I do not regularly subscribe to zope-dev, so please copy your reply to me and to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the latter automatically attaches your reply to the relevant official Debian bug report, #251038). If there were no reply, this would be okay; I would just assume that my fix were as good as it seems to be, and would proceed accordingly. Please reply by 23 August. If any active Zope developer on this list also happens to be a registered Debian Developer, he is asked to step in and take charge of Debian bug #251038 from here: one can find my full zopectl/zope Debian patch attached to the Debian bug report. Otherwise, thank you for your attention in this matter. If you want my patch to zpasswd.py, here it is. You probably want to apply it to your own SVN Zope source. diff -u zope-2.6.4/zpasswd.py zope-2.6.4.new/zpasswd.py --- zope-2.6.4/zpasswd.py 2004-08-03 20:34:53.0 + +++ zope-2.6.4.new/zpasswd.py 2004-08-03 18:49:11.0 + @@ -87,6 +87,16 @@ import do; do.ch(ac_path, user, group) +def get_password(): +while 1: +password = getpass.getpass(Password: ) +verify = getpass.getpass(Verify password: ) +if verify == password: +return password +else: +password = verify = '' +print Password mismatch, please try again... + def main(argv): short_options = ':u:p:e:d:' @@ -150,7 +160,10 @@ # Verify that we got what we need if not username or not password: -raise CommandLineError +if username: +password = get_password() +else: +raise CommandLineError access_file.write(username + ':' + generate_passwd(password, encoding) + @@ -163,14 +176,7 @@ if username != '': break -while 1: -password = getpass.getpass(Password: ) -verify = getpass.getpass(Verify password: ) -if verify == password: -break -else: -password = verify = '' -
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Debian and Zope
Hi Thaddeus, Thaddeus H. Black wrote: Please let me know if it doesn't show up there... I see your message there [http://bugs.debian.org/251038] presently. Cool, the bug's going to look a bit bloated due to the way the Zope Collector sends mails, but at least everyone will know where things are ;-) might mention to them that Debian Zope has an inactive maintainer and seems ripe for takeover. Can you tell us who that maintainer is? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Debian and Zope
Thaddeus H. Black wrote: This question regards the code in Zope's zpasswd.py. If you know zpasswd.py or are involved in Debian, please reply. I've attempted to add this to the Zope issue tracker and used the Debiuan bug's email address so it can be tracked there too. Please let me know if it doesn't show up there... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Debian and Zope
Chris wrote, I've attempted to add this to the Zope issue tracker and used the Debiuan bug's email address so it can be tracked there too. Thank you for your expert response, advice and intervention. Please let me know if it doesn't show up there... I see your message there [http://bugs.debian.org/251038] presently. It looks good. I and anyone else who reads the #251038 bug log now understand that some form of my zpasswd.py patch is to be considered for the next official feature-adding Zope release. If any Debian guys happen to come around zope-dev in the next six months, if they show a serious interest, and if you think of it, you might mention to them that Debian Zope has an inactive maintainer and seems ripe for takeover. Zope is somewhat a popular package among Debian users. While the Debian Project does not normally take packages away from unreasonable maintainers, it routinely takes them away from missing maintainers who fail even to respond to a takeover-proposing e-mail (but no such e-mail has yet been sent, nor do I myself mean to send one, nor do I call Debian's Zope maintainer unreasonable: he has written me neither rudely nor in any other manner; he has merely been silent). Sometimes sleepy Debian maintainers wake up when a takeover is proposed; more often in experience, they just keep sleeping. I am no Zope user, or I would politely offer to take the Debian package over myself. (If the maintainer reads these words, I hope that he will take no offense. Presumably he has just been busy this year in real life, which is something we all respect. If he would without delay relieve me of handling #251038, I would appreciate it. His active stewardship of the Debian package is welcome.) Am unsubscribing from zope-dev now. Thanks guys. If you should happen to want me for any further purpose, related or unrelated to #251038, please copy your message to me not just to the list. -- Thaddeus H. Black 508 Nellie's Cave Road, Blacksburg, Virginia 24060, USA; +1 540 961 0920, [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp1TXJjLeqDL.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Debian and Zope
This question regards the code in Zope's zpasswd.py. If you know zpasswd.py or are involved in Debian, please reply. Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 releases soon. The Debian Zope package (actually the Debian `zopectl' package) has what Debian calls a Release Critical Bug open against it [http://bugs.debian.org/251038]. Normally, Debian's Zope maintainer would handle such a bug, but the maintainer seems to be inactive this year, so it falls to me to fix it. This is okay. The maintainer's work in earlier years is appreciated. The trouble is, I do not use Zope myself, so I am fixing the bug with limited understanding of the potential consequences of the fix. The part of the Debian fix which affects your Zope source is in zpasswd.py. At present, a user can invoke zpasswd in either of two ways: (1) without command-line options, in which case zpasswd prompts the user on tty for username and password; or (2) with username and password supplied on the command line. How the user cannot presently invoke zpasswd is (3) with username supplied on the command line, so that zpasswd prompts the user on tty for a password only. The Zope installation procedure on Debian requires option (3). With (3), I can cleanly eliminate the Release Critical Bug now and prevent Zope from being dropped from Debian 3.1. Thus I am adding (3) to Debian Zope. Question, please. Does my addition create some subtle problem I should know about? If Zope were coded perfectly cleanly, then the addition of option (3) should create no problem; but you and I have both done enough coding to realize that old code can sometimes depend in strange ways on the odd behavior of even older code. With my small addition, zpasswd now correctly handles (3). Is this okay, or can you think of something specific it might break, something I might not have noticed? I have checked everything I know how to check, but I do not know Zope; you guys do. Regrettably, Zope's public SVN seems to be down as I write these words, so in the unlikely event that someone had already added option (3) to zpasswd.py, I would not know about it. I do understand and respect that, like any good free-software developers, you will probably all want me to update Debian Zope now to Zope's latest version! To this, I must plead that such an update far exceeds the limits of my Zope ignorance (also, it would violate Debian Project policy, which permits me minimally to fix a Release Critical Bug for an inactive maintainer but forbids me from unilaterally hijacking his Debian package). The matter at hand now is not how to include the latest Zope (it is not Debian's usual practice to include the very latest software in any event) but rather how to keep Zope in Debian at all. This is a good cause and I am pleased to help. I do not regularly subscribe to zope-dev, so please copy your reply to me and to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the latter automatically attaches your reply to the relevant official Debian bug report, #251038). If there were no reply, this would be okay; I would just assume that my fix were as good as it seems to be, and would proceed accordingly. Please reply by 23 August. If any active Zope developer on this list also happens to be a registered Debian Developer, he is asked to step in and take charge of Debian bug #251038 from here: one can find my full zopectl/zope Debian patch attached to the Debian bug report. Otherwise, thank you for your attention in this matter. If you want my patch to zpasswd.py, here it is. You probably want to apply it to your own SVN Zope source. diff -u zope-2.6.4/zpasswd.py zope-2.6.4.new/zpasswd.py --- zope-2.6.4/zpasswd.py 2004-08-03 20:34:53.0 + +++ zope-2.6.4.new/zpasswd.py 2004-08-03 18:49:11.0 + @@ -87,6 +87,16 @@ import do; do.ch(ac_path, user, group) +def get_password(): +while 1: +password = getpass.getpass(Password: ) +verify = getpass.getpass(Verify password: ) +if verify == password: +return password +else: +password = verify = '' +print Password mismatch, please try again... + def main(argv): short_options = ':u:p:e:d:' @@ -150,7 +160,10 @@ # Verify that we got what we need if not username or not password: -raise CommandLineError +if username: +password = get_password() +else: +raise CommandLineError access_file.write(username + ':' + generate_passwd(password, encoding) + @@ -163,14 +176,7 @@ if username != '': break -while 1: -password = getpass.getpass(Password: ) -verify = getpass.getpass(Verify password: ) -if verify == password: -break -else: -password = verify = '' -