[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-13 Thread whit
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: yuppie wrote at 2007-2-3 11:44 +0100: ... Unfortunately integrating a product into the Zope core means more than just adjusting the coding style: - As already mentioned in this thread, monkey patches and code like fixPluginIndexes.py

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Dieter Maurer wrote: You fetch it from my Zope page and put it into a subversion repository (perferably on a vendor branch) of your choice. Hanno imported it at http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/AdvancedQuery two days ago. We'll try to keep that synchronised with your work.

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-05 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:22 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Some of the holdup is in the bylaws. The bylaws were, simply put, rather overengineered, and we've been struggling to cut them down so we can actually work with them. This is holding up the IP transfer. Ok. Is there anything us mere mortals can

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-05 Thread Jürgen Herrmann
On Mon, February 5, 2007 12:26, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:22 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Some of the holdup is in the bylaws. The bylaws were, simply put, rather overengineered, and we've been struggling to cut them down so we can actually work with them. This is

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-05 Thread Rocky Burt
On Mon, 2007-05-02 at 12:26 +0100, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:22 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Another is of course who is doing the hosting. Currently we're using ZC's infrastructure for SVN. We need to shift it away from ZC's infrastructure at some point to make it

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Rocky Burt wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-02 at 12:26 +0100, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 5 Feb 2007, at 12:22 , Martijn Faassen wrote: Another is of course who is doing the hosting. Currently we're using ZC's infrastructure for SVN. We need to shift it away from ZC's

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote: Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a lot of us very happy. I asked Jim about this and he told me to just import the current CVS code into svn and go from

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tres Seaver wrote: I looked at my CVS checkout, and noticed that a file ('tests/common.py') had not been checked in for ZVC 0.3.3. I therefore checked it in, tagged 0.3.4, and re-imported the SVN version from that tag. Finally, I added an 'ATTENTION_THIS_AREA_IS_NOW_CLOSED.txt'

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: Whit (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) reported that AdvancedQuery is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if AdvancedQuery were part of the Zope 2 distribution. I fail to find

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 12:47, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm not quite sure it has to be part of Zope 2 as you install it. Having it in svn.zope.org would go a long, way, though, allowing us to use svn:externals during development and potentially fix

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
yuppie wrote at 2007-2-3 11:44 +0100: ... Unfortunately integrating a product into the Zope core means more than just adjusting the coding style: - As already mentioned in this thread, monkey patches and code like fixPluginIndexes.py have to be resolved. AdvancedQuery contains a monkey patch

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 4 Feb 2007, at 12:47, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm not quite sure it has to be part of Zope 2 as you install it. Having it in svn.zope.org would go a long, way, though, allowing us to use svn:externals during development and potentially fix issues ourselves as

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 18:27, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is currently only in CVS. An import of that into subversion would make a lot of us very happy. I think it has been

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 4. Februar 2007 18:39:22 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 18:27, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Note that we have the same issue with ZopeVersionControl, which is currently only in CVS. An import of that

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 4. Februar 2007 18:44:38 +0100 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On 4. Februar 2007 18:39:22 +0100 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4 Feb 2007, at 18:27, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Note that we have the same issue

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-2-4 18:35 +0100: Monkey patches should be avoided when they can. I think that's something we don't need to discuss. You think this way but I disagree... There are (potentially) dangerous monkey patches and harmless ones. We discuss about a

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-2-4 18:35 +0100: ... I think we can leave everything as it is and if Plone needs it in an svn repo, heck, why not do vendor imports? (not in svn.zope.org, of course, since the contributor agreement forbids that) One of the rare cases when I agree with

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: --On 4. Februar 2007 18:12:52 +0100 Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote at 2007-2-3 08:47 +0100: ... * my code uses 2 blank indentation rather than the usual 4 blank (to make it more readable

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-04 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 4. Februar 2007 19:24:09 -0500 Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else should think about how to deal with this issue...I'm too much biased :-) - -1 on reformatting code, especially if we are talking about putting it in

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-03 Thread yuppie
Hi Dieter! Dieter Maurer wrote: Whit (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) reported that AdvancedQuery is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if AdvancedQuery were part of the Zope 2 distribution. According to Whit, Alexander Limi seems to be interested to have Managable

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-03 Thread Martin Aspeli
yuppie wrote: - Should we add new products to the core? I thought we want to move away from products and use python packages instead. The AdvancedQuery code might become part of the ZCatalog package, ManagableIndex might be converted to a non-products package. There are hardly new, though,

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-03 Thread Janko Hauser
First let me say, that I'm in favour to add these products to Zope in some form, to take the chance to enhance the zcatalog significantly. Am 03.02.2007 um 14:34 schrieb Martin Aspeli: yuppie wrote: - Should we add new products to the core? I thought we want to move away from products and

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-03 Thread Janko Hauser
Replying to my own post, Am 03.02.2007 um 15:14 schrieb Janko Hauser: There are hardly new, though, they've been around for ages and have enthusiastic users. Those users always found it hard to convince people to adopt them more widely because they were not in the standard repositories

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-03 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Dieter Maurer wrote: Whit (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) reported that AdvancedQuery is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if AdvancedQuery were part of the Zope 2 distribution. I fail to find an explanation *why* that is. According to Whit, Alexander Limi

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-03 Thread Martin Aspeli
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: Whit (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) reported that AdvancedQuery is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if AdvancedQuery were part of the Zope 2 distribution. I fail to find an explanation *why* that is. I'm

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-03 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Martin Aspeli wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: Whit (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) reported that AdvancedQuery is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if AdvancedQuery were part of the Zope 2 distribution. I fail to find an

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
Dieter Maurer wrote: I have no problems to donate AdvancedQuery and/or Managable Index to the Zope Foundation That's great, thank you! :) *BUT* I will not modify the code to bring it in line with the different style requirements usually applied to Zope components: e.g. * my code uses 2

[Zope-dev] Re: Interest in AdvancedQuery and/or ManagableIndex?

2007-02-02 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dieter Maurer wrote: Whit (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) reported that AdvancedQuery is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for them if AdvancedQuery were part of the Zope 2 distribution. According to Whit, Alexander Limi