[Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-25 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Tres Seaver wrote:
Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote:
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 11:59, Casey Duncan wrote:
-1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.

I might be wrong but I think this is incorrect. From the headers of this
message you sent it's possible to see that you sent it thru gmane, yet
the From: address is your zope.com address, so you should not have a
problem posting thru the list this way.

I think you got a direct reply (but could be wrong).  I got the original 
mail bounced to me just now.

Tres.
This surprises me.
I am administring plone-i18n mailing list. Non members cannot post. I 
always post through gmane and my messages get accepted !

Further, I think Mohsen has a very good point when he mentions the fact 
that spam pollutes the archives !

IOW, I think we really could make advantage of Non-members not allowed 
on zope lists.

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[Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-25 Thread Casey Duncan
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:06:21 +0200
Godefroid Chapelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[..]
 I am administring plone-i18n mailing list. Non members cannot post. I 
 always post through gmane and my messages get accepted !

As long as posting from Gmane still works, then I'm fine with
restricting postings to members.

If we decide to go ahead I suggest restricting just one list first to
see if there are issues. IMO zope-dev is a reasonable candidate for a
trial list.

-Casey

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[Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-24 Thread Casey Duncan
-1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.

I rarely see spam get through list either (unless Gmane is filtering it
all out for me), so I fail to see the problem from that point of view.

-Casey

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:24:07 -0400
Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Over on the zope and zope-dev lists, there's currently agitation to
 make them members-only mailing lists.  The point is that spam could
 not get thru then (unless posted by a member).
 
 What would zodb-dev members like?
 
 Posting by a list member would not be affected, unless you attempted
 to send a message from an email account other than one you subscribed
 with.  In the latter case, your message would be bounced back to you.
 
 You could worm around that by subscribing to zodb-dev with that
 address too, then going to your list membership page on the web and
 checking the box to suspend email delivery on that account.  Then you
 could post using that account too, but wouldn't also get zodb-dev
 email on that account.
 
 I'm the list admin for zodb-dev, and don't have a preference.  If you
 do, and it's strong enough to scream it, shout.  The loudest screamer
 will winwink.  By default, I won't change the current policy (anyone
 can post here, member or not).


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[Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-24 Thread Tres Seaver
Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote:
On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 11:59, Casey Duncan wrote:
-1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.

I might be wrong but I think this is incorrect. From the headers of this
message you sent it's possible to see that you sent it thru gmane, yet
the From: address is your zope.com address, so you should not have a
problem posting thru the list this way.

I think you got a direct reply (but could be wrong).  I got the original 
mail bounced to me just now.

Tres.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-24 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida

On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 11:59, Casey Duncan wrote:
 -1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
 lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.


 
 I rarely see spam get through list either (unless Gmane is filtering it
 all out for me), so I fail to see the problem from that point of view.
 
 -Casey
 
 On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:24:07 -0400
 Tim Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Over on the zope and zope-dev lists, there's currently agitation to
  make them members-only mailing lists.  The point is that spam could
  not get thru then (unless posted by a member).
  
  What would zodb-dev members like?
  
  Posting by a list member would not be affected, unless you attempted
  to send a message from an email account other than one you subscribed
  with.  In the latter case, your message would be bounced back to you.
  
  You could worm around that by subscribing to zodb-dev with that
  address too, then going to your list membership page on the web and
  checking the box to suspend email delivery on that account.  Then you
  could post using that account too, but wouldn't also get zodb-dev
  email on that account.
  
  I'm the list admin for zodb-dev, and don't have a preference.  If you
  do, and it's strong enough to scream it, shout.  The loudest screamer
  will winwink.  By default, I won't change the current policy (anyone
  can post here, member or not).
 
 
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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zope-dev list policies

2004-06-24 Thread Michael Bernstein
Casey Duncan wrote:
-1 on changing the list policy. I read and post to all of the public
lists through Gmane, which won't work if the policy is changed.
Umm... Why wouldn't this work? Isn't Gmane a subscriber?
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