[Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, Since Zope 2.8 has now been released, we can start talking about what would be in Zope 2.9. I have some ideas: * newer version of Five included (whatever version is current then) * Zope 3.1 included * Python 2.4 support I think these could all be accomplished without getting too

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Janko Hauser
Am 17.06.2005 um 11:45 schrieb Martijn Faassen: Hi there, Since Zope 2.8 has now been released, we can start talking about what would be in Zope 2.9. I have some ideas: * newer version of Five included (whatever version is current then) * Zope 3.1 included * Python 2.4 support +1

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. Juni 2005 11:45:49 +0200 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, Since Zope 2.8 has now been released, we can start talking about what would be in Zope 2.9. I have some ideas: * newer version of Five included (whatever version is current then) * Zope 3.1 included *

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
I'd be happy if this was *all* that changed in Zope 2.9. This way we can release Zope 2.9 in the forseeable future, like, late this year. If Zope 3 is on track there will already be a Zope 3.2 release imminent by then, but I'm okay with Zope 2.x running a version behind in the name of

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 6/17/05, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do people think? Just an idea: One thing that would be interesting and increase the Z3 compatibility is to use traversing adapters, and then, of course, make a default adapter that implements Zope2 traversing for objects that does not

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andreas Jung wrote: [snip] Depending on how Zope 3.2 will be released it would be cool to have 2.9 shipped with Zope 3.2. I don#t know about the 3.2 release schedule. Possibly we could focus on a 2.9 release in fall (October)... I don't expect Zope 3.2 will be released by october. Jim is

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Martijn Faassen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 6/17/05, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do people think? Just an idea: One thing that would be interesting and increase the Z3 compatibility is to use traversing adapters, and then, of course, make a default adapter that implements Zope2 traversing

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. Juni 2005 13:34:34 +0200 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: [snip] Depending on how Zope 3.2 will be released it would be cool to have 2.9 shipped with Zope 3.2. I don#t know about the 3.2 release schedule. Possibly we could focus on a 2.9 release in

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, Since Zope 2.8 has now been released, we can start talking about what would be in Zope 2.9. Yup. I'll just remind everybody that, starting with Zope 2.9 and Zope 3.2, we are switching to time based, rather than feature-based releases. We will make feature

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Martijn Faassen
Andreas Jung wrote: --On 17. Juni 2005 13:34:34 +0200 Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: [snip] Depending on how Zope 3.2 will be released it would be cool to have 2.9 shipped with Zope 3.2. I don#t know about the 3.2 release schedule. Possibly we could focus on

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] I'll just remind everybody that, starting with Zope 2.9 and Zope 3.2, we are switching to time based, rather than feature-based releases. We will make feature releases of Zope 2 and Zope 3 every 6 months, starting this December. I suggest a

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:45 +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: Then there's something I know little about, but is also believed planned for Zope 2.9: * blob storage, file iterators Thanks for mentioning this. I'd like to see blob storage get in before 2.9. I think it'd be a good candidate for

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote: [snip] I'll just remind everybody that, starting with Zope 2.9 and Zope 3.2, we are switching to time based, rather than feature-based releases. We will make feature releases of Zope 2 and Zope 3 every 6 months, starting this

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 15:54 +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: - the trunk is no longer a development area. Developments must happen on branches and will be merged into the trunk as soon as the stuff is stable. I won't be acceptable to have half-baked stuff in the trunk. This will hold up the

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris McDonough wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 15:54 +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: - the trunk is no longer a development area. Developments must happen on branches and will be merged into the trunk as soon as the stuff is stable. I won't be acceptable to have half-baked stuff in the trunk. This

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Florent Guillaume
Just an idea: One thing that would be interesting and increase the Z3 compatibility is to use traversing adapters, and then, of course, make a default adapter that implements Zope2 traversing for objects that does not have a traversing adapter. Stupid or brilliant? :) I know

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris McDonough wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:45 +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: Then there's something I know little about, but is also believed planned for Zope 2.9: * blob storage, file iterators Thanks for mentioning this. I'd like to see blob storage get in before 2.9. I think it'd

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 17. Juni 2005 10:04:41 -0400 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 15:54 +0200, Andreas Jung wrote: - the trunk is no longer a development area. Developments must happen on branches and will be merged into the trunk as soon as the stuff is stable. I won't be

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Jim Fulton
Florent Guillaume wrote: Just an idea: One thing that would be interesting and increase the Z3 compatibility is to use traversing adapters, and then, of course, make a default adapter that implements Zope2 traversing for objects that does not have a traversing adapter. Stupid or brilliant? :)

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 6/17/05, Jim Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rule for Zope 3 has been that the trunk needs to be stable, but that isn't enough. I think the rule should be that the trunk should be ready to make a beta release at any time. +1e79 -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 10:12 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: Thanks for mentioning this. I'd like to see blob storage get in before 2.9. I think it'd be a good candidate for a 2.8-dot release because it's backwards compatible and optional. It ahould be done (needs a bit more testing and some

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris McDonough wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 10:12 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: ... We have historically always had the opportunity to introduce features that preserve 100% b/c (like filestream iterators) in point releases. This has worked pretty well for the last few years. I wasn't aware of

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:04 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 10:12 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: ... We have historically always had the opportunity to introduce features that preserve 100% b/c (like filestream iterators) in point releases. This has

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 10:28:11AM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: We have historically always had the opportunity to introduce features that preserve 100% b/c (like filestream iterators) in point releases. This has worked pretty well for the last few years. Strongly agree. By my count there

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Chris McDonough
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 12:00 -0400, Paul Winkler wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 10:28:11AM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: We have historically always had the opportunity to introduce features that preserve 100% b/c (like filestream iterators) in point releases. This has worked pretty well for

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Jim Fulton
Paul Winkler wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 10:28:11AM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: We have historically always had the opportunity to introduce features that preserve 100% b/c (like filestream iterators) in point releases. This has worked pretty well for the last few years. Strongly

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.9 goals

2005-06-17 Thread Paul Winkler
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 12:17:27PM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: Fortunately, we'll be making feature releases every 6 months, so this should not be a problem. OK. Assuming the new release process works as intended, fine w/ me. Maybe this should be clarified on the SVN / CVS FAQ pages? -- Paul