Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 00:41, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote:
 Unless I missed something, the ZTK was globally compatible with Python2.4
 recently, wasn't it?  Do we want the latest changes and Lennart's work to be
 part of the ZTK 1.0?

I think it's OK if they are not. Of course it would be cool if 1.0
does include the latest and greatest, but my changes are mostly aimed
at Python 3 compatibility, and ZTK 1.0 will not have that as a whole
anyway.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 20:02, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
 - - zope.browserpage
 - - zope.viewlet
 - - zope.contentprovider
 - - zope.deferredimport

These tests all fail because as Tres pointed out, Python 2.4 doesn't
set __file__ to the doctest filename in the globals. Zope.browserpage
in turn uses those globals to determine the filename of the
pagetemplate. So, you get an error if you create a browserpage in a
DocTestFile, like so:

  ErrorPage = SimpleViewClass(errorFileName, name='error.html')

Passing in file explicitly solves the problem:

  ErrorPage = SimpleViewClass(errorFileName, name='error.html',
offering={'__file__': 'README.txt'})

The same thing goes for ViewPagetemplateFile, but there it's called
_prefix instead of offering. Yeah, none of those variable names make
sense.
It can also typically be fixed by passing in __file__ explicitly to the doctest:

def test_suite():
import doctest
filename = os.path.join(os.pardir, 'namedtemplate.txt')
return doctest.DocFileSuite(
filename,
setUp=pageSetUp, tearDown=zope.component.testing.tearDown,
globs={'__file__':
os.path.abspath(os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__), filename))}
)

Other options is to make the usage of __file__ lazy, so that it's only
looked up in the globals when accessed. Because I suspect it's not
actually used except when you get errors, but I'm not 100% sure.

So for the time being, I went for passing in __file__ explicitly in
globs.  The tests run under Python 2.4 again.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-04 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 Dropping Python 2.4 supports makes most sense to me at this stage.
 Zope2/Plone only support Python 2.6 for any modern version.
 
 I don't know what BlueBream and Grok want to support, but would guess
 they aim for Python 2.5 + 2.6 support. 2.4 is really old by now.

Grok 1.1 aims for 2.5 and 2.6. Grok 1.0 goes for 2.4 and 2.5, but Grok 
1.0's stable so we don't have problems when the ZTK is updated.

Regards,

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-04 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:07, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote:
 For a while already people have been making changes that at least break
 tests on 2.4. For instance, zope.testing has some facility to pretty
 print a dictionary that sorts the keys, because Python 2.4's built-in
 pretty print module apparently doesn't do that yet, meaning random test
 failures can happen. But people have been updating code to use Python's
 built-in pretty print facility and this will only be reliable on Python
 2.5 and higher.

Although that zope.testing facility has been deprecated, as far as I'm
aware it's still there... If not maybe it should be reintroduced,
we're suppose dto deprecate, not break in this case.

 In my opinion it's time to drop Python 2.4 support anyway, but it's been
 going a bit haphazardly by way of bit rot..

Yeah, officially dropping is better than bitrot dropping it, that's
for sure. And as mentioned, except for the Bicycle toolkit or
whatever the name is, 2.4 is not needed any more.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-04 Thread Tres Seaver
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Lennart Regebro wrote:
 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 20:02, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
 - - zope.browserpage
 - - zope.viewlet
 - - zope.contentprovider
 - - zope.deferredimport
 
 These tests all fail because as Tres pointed out, Python 2.4 doesn't
 set __file__ to the doctest filename in the globals. Zope.browserpage
 in turn uses those globals to determine the filename of the
 pagetemplate. So, you get an error if you create a browserpage in a
 DocTestFile, like so:
 
   ErrorPage = SimpleViewClass(errorFileName, name='error.html')
 
 Passing in file explicitly solves the problem:
 
   ErrorPage = SimpleViewClass(errorFileName, name='error.html',
 offering={'__file__': 'README.txt'})
 
 The same thing goes for ViewPagetemplateFile, but there it's called
 _prefix instead of offering. Yeah, none of those variable names make
 sense.
 It can also typically be fixed by passing in __file__ explicitly to the 
 doctest:
 
 def test_suite():
 import doctest
 filename = os.path.join(os.pardir, 'namedtemplate.txt')
 return doctest.DocFileSuite(
 filename,
 setUp=pageSetUp, tearDown=zope.component.testing.tearDown,
 globs={'__file__':
 os.path.abspath(os.path.join(os.path.dirname(__file__), filename))}
 )
 
 Other options is to make the usage of __file__ lazy, so that it's only
 looked up in the globals when accessed. Because I suspect it's not
 actually used except when you get errors, but I'm not 100% sure.
 
 So for the time being, I went for passing in __file__ explicitly in
 globs.  The tests run under Python 2.4 again.

Cool.  I was afraid we were looking at something more insidious than that.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-04 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On May 4, 2010, at 6:07 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
 For a while already people have been making changes that at least break  
 tests on 2.4. For instance, zope.testing has some facility to pretty print a 
 dictionary that sorts the keys, because Python 2.4's built-in pretty print 
 module apparently doesn't do that yet,

The pprint version in Python 2.4 sorts dictionaries too, but only if they don't 
fit on a single line of output.

 meaning random test failures can happen. But people have been updating code 
 to use Python's built-in pretty print facility and this will only be reliable 
 on Python 2.5 and higher.

I already corrected one such checkin with a simple workaround.

 pprint(somedict, width=1)

This causes Python 2.4 to pretty print somedict one item per line, and thus 
forces it to sort it.

So the tests using pprint can be made reliable on Python 2.4 to 2.6.

Zvezdan

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[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Sun May  2 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Mon May  3 12:00:00 2010 UTC.
There were 16 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 9 from ccomb at free.fr, 1 from ct 
at gocept.com.


Test failures
-

Subject: FAILED: Repository policy check found errors in 670 projects
From: ct at gocept.com
Date: Sun May  2 21:17:48 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014232.html

Subject: FAILED : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 32bit
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon May  3 00:04:42 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014243.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope 3.4.1 KGS / Python2.4.6 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon May  3 00:27:11 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014246.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope 3.4.1 KGS / Python2.5.2 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon May  3 00:51:14 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014247.html


Unknown
---

Subject: UNKNOWN : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun May  2 21:32:41 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014235.html

Subject: UNKNOWN : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun May  2 21:34:41 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014236.html


Tests passed OK
---

Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun May  2 21:28:41 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014233.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun May  2 21:30:41 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014234.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun May  2 21:36:41 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014237.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun May  2 21:38:41 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014238.html

Subject: OK : BlueBream template / Python2.7b1 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Sun May  2 22:00:53 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014239.html

Subject: OK : BlueBream template / Python2.6.4 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Sun May  2 22:00:57 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014241.html

Subject: OK : BlueBream template / Python2.5.2 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Sun May  2 22:00:58 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014240.html

Subject: OK : BlueBream template / Python2.4.6 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Sun May  2 22:00:58 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014242.html

Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.5.2 Linux 32bit
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon May  3 00:06:09 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014244.html

Subject: OK : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.6.4 Linux 32bit
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon May  3 00:06:19 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014245.html

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Tres Seaver
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 Test failures
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 Subject: FAILED: Repository policy check found errors in 670 projects
 From: ct at gocept.com
 Date: Sun May  2 21:17:48 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014232.html

Expected breakage.

 Subject: FAILED : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 32bit
 From: ccomb at free.fr
 Date: Mon May  3 00:04:42 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014243.html

Breakage in the following packages, but only on Python 2.4, and only in
doctests:

- - zope.browserpage
- - zope.viewlet
- - zope.contentprovider
- - zope.deferredimport

At least the first one is due to doctests not exposing an '__file__' in
their faux-module globals under 2.4.  We might need to add Lennart's
monkeypatch under 2.4, or else drop 2.4 support altogether.


snip KGS 3.4.1 failures

 Subject: UNKNOWN : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.4 : Linux
 From: Zope Tests
 Date: Sun May  2 21:32:41 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014235.html
 
 Subject: UNKNOWN : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.4 : Linux
 From: Zope Tests
 Date: Sun May  2 21:34:41 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-May/014236.html

These two are my bad:  I broke the 2.12 branch by backporting a fix
badly from the trunk.  They should run fine tonight.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 03.05.2010, 20:06 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu:

 Hhm. I'm inclined to drop 2.4 support here. Using a zope.testing that
 tries to be compatible all the way from 2.4 to 3.1 is quite a bit of a
 stretch.

+1

Python 2.4 itself is on life-support only*. I know it's an abrupt change  
for anyone coming from the Zope 2 world but that's largely because we were  
so slow in making the change ourselves.

Charlie

* I am actually aware of several commercial Python deployments that run  
only on  2.1 and they have all kinds of problems of their own.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 20:02, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
 At least the first one is due to doctests not exposing an '__file__' in
 their faux-module globals under 2.4.  We might need to add Lennart's
 monkeypatch under 2.4, or else drop 2.4 support altogether.

Well, I don't want a monkey-patch product just for 2.4, and the
monkeypatches was voted off from zope.testing because they are evil in
the first place. The tests might pass __file__ in explicitly, maybe?

Otherwise dropping 2.4 is probably the only reasonable option.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Christophe Combelles
Hanno Schlichting a écrit :
 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
 Breakage in the following packages, but only on Python 2.4, and only in
 doctests:

 - - zope.browserpage
 - - zope.viewlet
 - - zope.contentprovider
 - - zope.deferredimport

 At least the first one is due to doctests not exposing an '__file__' in
 their faux-module globals under 2.4.  We might need to add Lennart's
 monkeypatch under 2.4, or else drop 2.4 support altogether.
 
 Hhm. I'm inclined to drop 2.4 support here. Using a zope.testing that
 tries to be compatible all the way from 2.4 to 3.1 is quite a bit of a
 stretch.

Unless I missed something, the ZTK was globally compatible with Python2.4 
recently, wasn't it?  Do we want the latest changes and Lennart's work to be 
part of the ZTK 1.0?

If not, the svn branches used for the ZTK 1.0dev should be updated to point to 
a 
maintenance branch.
(I suppose it's our job)

Christophe

 
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Christophe Combelles cc...@free.fr wrote:
 Hanno Schlichting a écrit :
 Hhm. I'm inclined to drop 2.4 support here. Using a zope.testing that
 tries to be compatible all the way from 2.4 to 3.1 is quite a bit of a
 stretch.

 Unless I missed something, the ZTK was globally compatible with Python2.4
 recently, wasn't it?  Do we want the latest changes and Lennart's work to be
 part of the ZTK 1.0?

 If not, the svn branches used for the ZTK 1.0dev should be updated to point 
 to a
 maintenance branch.
 (I suppose it's our job)

Dropping Python 2.4 supports makes most sense to me at this stage.
Zope2/Plone only support Python 2.6 for any modern version.

I don't know what BlueBream and Grok want to support, but would guess
they aim for Python 2.5 + 2.6 support. 2.4 is really old by now.

Hanno
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Tres Seaver
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Christophe Combelles wrote:
 Hanno Schlichting a écrit :
 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
 Breakage in the following packages, but only on Python 2.4, and only in
 doctests:

 - - zope.browserpage
 - - zope.viewlet
 - - zope.contentprovider
 - - zope.deferredimport

 At least the first one is due to doctests not exposing an '__file__' in
 their faux-module globals under 2.4.  We might need to add Lennart's
 monkeypatch under 2.4, or else drop 2.4 support altogether.
 Hhm. I'm inclined to drop 2.4 support here. Using a zope.testing that
 tries to be compatible all the way from 2.4 to 3.1 is quite a bit of a
 stretch.
 
 Unless I missed something, the ZTK was globally compatible with Python2.4 
 recently, wasn't it?  Do we want the latest changes and Lennart's work to be 
 part of the ZTK 1.0?

I recall a general consensus that we would be officially supporting
Python 2.5 and 2.6, and that we wouldn't deliberately break Python 2.4
without good reason.  A spacial exception was for zope.interface,
zope.component, zope.configuration, and their dependencies:  because
they were already in much wider use outside traditional Zope projects,
Python 2.4 compatibility for the bicycle seat toolkit package subset
was identified as being *more* important than the ZTK as a whole:

At this point, Lennart's work has been aimed at increasing forward
compatibility with Python = 3.1.x:  I believe that trading away 2.4.x
compatibility in order to get 3.1.x compatibility is a sane choice.

 If not, the svn branches used for the ZTK 1.0dev should be updated to point 
 to a 
 maintenance branch. (I suppose it's our job)

Before you go down that road, I would argue that somebody needs to speak
up who actually needs the whole ZTK (and zopeapp) to run on Pythonn 2.4.
 In particular, this means somebody who has an existing application
which *both* requires staying on Python 2.4 *and* expects to be updated
to use ztk.cfg and / or zopeapp.cfg, rather than a project-specific KGS
or index.  Note that I believe the intersection of those two sets is
very likely empty at this point.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 4 Failed, 2 Unknown

2010-05-03 Thread Baiju M
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote:
 Dropping Python 2.4 supports makes most sense to me at this stage.
 Zope2/Plone only support Python 2.6 for any modern version.

 I don't know what BlueBream and Grok want to support, but would guess
 they aim for Python 2.5 + 2.6 support. 2.4 is really old by now.

Python 2.4 will be supported for BB 1.0 release, but the package versions
for that release is already freezed, so no problem for dropping 2.4 support.
AFAIK, Grok 1.1 release versions are also freezed as a release candidate
is out.

Regards,
Baiju M
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