Re: [Zope-dev] exception views lost context on Zope 2.12

2010-02-24 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On 23.02.10 13:36, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 On 2/23/10 13:22 , Martin Aspeli wrote:
 Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 It is not useful, it is critical. Without the context you can not use
 any browser views for example.

 Well, the use cases that have been to date have done without it. :) I'm
 not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying we need to make sure we don't
 break existing use cases (plone.app.linkintegrity, plone.caching to name
 two that I know of).
 
 As I said plone.app.linkintegrity always used this trick in Zope 2.10, 
 so it is not something I just came up with. It is known to work :)

wichert is right, the existing use cases — or say, at least
p.a.linkintegrity — have _not_ done without it.  in fact, the
confirmation view (i.e. you really wanna delete this?) relies on the
(acquisition) context.  otherwise it could never be rendered as
something that looks like a regular page.

however, the monkey patch used here is only partly applied for zope
2.12, and the bit where the view gets aq-wrapped is not[*].  since it
remains to work, though, i suspect that wichert's problem could be
something else...


andi

[*] see
http://dev.plone.org/plone/browser/plone.app.linkintegrity/trunk/plone/app/linkintegrity/monkey.py#L18

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[Zope-dev] exception views lost context on Zope 2.12

2010-02-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
In Zope 2.10 exception views were acquisition-wrapped in the publisher 
context. This appears to have changed in Zope 2.12: exception views are 
now wrapped in the exception. This is problematic since it means you can
no longer use the context when rendering an error page, so things like 
++resource++ or anything else which relies on a working acquisition 
context, which is pretty much everything, break.

Is this an unexpected regression from the acquisition changes, or a 
deliberate change?

Wichert.
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Re: [Zope-dev] exception views lost context on Zope 2.12

2010-02-23 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote:
 In Zope 2.10 exception views were acquisition-wrapped in the publisher
 context.

In Zope 2.10, exception views didn't exist in Zope2. They were only
introduced in Zope 2.11.

 This appears to have changed in Zope 2.12: exception views are
 now wrapped in the exception. This is problematic since it means you can
 no longer use the context when rendering an error page, so things like
 ++resource++ or anything else which relies on a working acquisition
 context, which is pretty much everything, break.

 Is this an unexpected regression from the acquisition changes, or a
 deliberate change?

The exception view support in Zope3 and Zope2 has always been a view
on the exception value and the request. There's no context involved.
Not sure which backport or monkey patch you have been using in 2.10
here.

Hanno
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Re: [Zope-dev] exception views lost context on Zope 2.12

2010-02-23 Thread Martin Aspeli
Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 On 2/23/10 11:09 , Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net   
 wrote:
 In Zope 2.10 exception views were acquisition-wrapped in the publisher
 context.
 In Zope 2.10, exception views didn't exist in Zope2. They were only
 introduced in Zope 2.11.

 And yet they work beautifully in a Plone 3 site.

 This appears to have changed in Zope 2.12: exception views are
 now wrapped in the exception. This is problematic since it means you can
 no longer use the context when rendering an error page, so things like
 ++resource++ or anything else which relies on a working acquisition
 context, which is pretty much everything, break.

 Is this an unexpected regression from the acquisition changes, or a
 deliberate change?
 The exception view support in Zope3 and Zope2 has always been a view
 on the exception value and the request. There's no context involved.
 Not sure which backport or monkey patch you have been using in 2.10
 here.

 perhaps plone.app.linkintegrity did something.

Yes, it adds a monkey patch to enable views-on-exceptions.

 At any rate without being
 able to access the context exception views are pretty much worthless, so
 we'll have to figure out some way of making it accesible.

The view definitely needs access to the exception. And it's an adapter 
on (exception, request), which is definitely correct. We can't change that.

Other than that, making it possible to access the real context sounds 
useful.

Martin

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Re: [Zope-dev] exception views lost context on Zope 2.12

2010-02-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 2/23/10 12:33 , Martin Aspeli wrote:
 Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 On 2/23/10 11:09 , Hanno Schlichting wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net
 wrote:
 In Zope 2.10 exception views were acquisition-wrapped in the publisher
 context.
 In Zope 2.10, exception views didn't exist in Zope2. They were only
 introduced in Zope 2.11.

 And yet they work beautifully in a Plone 3 site.

 This appears to have changed in Zope 2.12: exception views are
 now wrapped in the exception. This is problematic since it means you can
 no longer use the context when rendering an error page, so things like
 ++resource++ or anything else which relies on a working acquisition
 context, which is pretty much everything, break.

 Is this an unexpected regression from the acquisition changes, or a
 deliberate change?
 The exception view support in Zope3 and Zope2 has always been a view
 on the exception value and the request. There's no context involved.
 Not sure which backport or monkey patch you have been using in 2.10
 here.

 perhaps plone.app.linkintegrity did something.

 Yes, it adds a monkey patch to enable views-on-exceptions.

 At any rate without being
 able to access the context exception views are pretty much worthless, so
 we'll have to figure out some way of making it accesible.

 The view definitely needs access to the exception. And it's an adapter
 on (exception, request), which is definitely correct. We can't change that.

 Other than that, making it possible to access the real context sounds
 useful.

It is not useful, it is critical. Without the context you can not use 
any browser views for example. In a Plone context that means you can not 
render any Plone template. The trick plone.app.linkintegrity did was to 
wrap the exception view in the context, which both keeps the
API the same and provides the context.

Wichert.
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