The following should work in your nested standard_html_footer to call the higher level one without infinite recursion: <dtml-with "PARENTS[1]"> <dtml-var standard_html_footer> </dtml-with> hth, Casey D. _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )