After the discussion here I'm slowly starting to form a picture in my mind
of how to solve the problems.
First some basic facts of life:
- Zope corp needs to do what Zope corp thinks it can make money on.
- We (that is the Zope community) need to get some features into the base
of Zope because:
Joachim Werner wrote:
I think that there ARE problems that can not be solved on a mailing list or
in the fishbowl. One of them is doing a good general design (which we MIGHT
need for some of the Zope 3.0 issues). I followed all the stuff about the
CMF and formerly PTK and knew that it was
As both Robert and Joachim (in another message) have noted, core i18n
support is blocked by a single issue: there are two different approaches
and insufficient consensus about resolving them.
The first criteria that I have is whether someone is willing to become a
CVS contributor and
Lennart Regebro writes:
...
Here are some things that I feel should be introduced into Zope:
- Workflow support. (Because everybody needs it)
You know DCWorkflow?
- Versioning. (Because it's hard to do as a product)
CVSFolder is quite near: I see currently two remaining issues:
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Hello Lennart,
On Monday 03 December 2001 05:06, Lennart Regebro wrote:
After the discussion here I'm slowly starting to form a picture in my mind
of how to solve the problems.
First some basic facts of life:
- Zope corp needs to do what Zope corp thinks it can make money on.
- We (that
From: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here are some things that I feel should be introduced into Zope:
- Workflow support. (Because everybody needs it)
You know DCWorkflow?
Yes. I think it should be moved off CMF and into Zope proper.
- Versioning. (Because it's hard to do as a
On Monday 03 December 2001 10:09, Danny William Adair wrote:
Introduced to us as the Portal Toolkit, later labeled as probably
evolving into a commercial product (couldn't find it in the archives when
I tried a minute ago, but I know I wasn't dreaming when I read it), then
renamed to Content
Hi,
as far as I understand the issue, both I18n solutions coud agree on a
common set of features they need in the Zope-core. I think booth should
formulate, what their requests are.
--On Sonntag, Dezember 02, 2001 13:13:30 -0500 Paul Everitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
As both Robert and
This is great! Finally somebody is working on integrating Mailman with
Zope!
Count me in -- we had a volunteer struggle with the Mailman code over
the summer before giving up.
Fred
P.S. By the way, last week I added CGI 1.1 support to Zope 2.3.3. This
allows us to run the existing Mailman
I am hearing to different stories, sometimes from the
same people.
On the one hand ZC is this munificent benefactor of
Zope.
On the other hand ZC is this poor cash strapped little
company that can't afford to take any interest in Zope
unless they have an immediate incentive.
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT
Clark O'Brien wrote:
I am hearing to different stories, sometimes from the
same people.
You obviously care enough about Zope that you continue taking the time
to post to this mailing list.
Why do you care?
What do you want from Zope? (software, community, corporation; you choose)
--
hello,
there's a collector issue at http://collector.zope.org/Zope/62.
thanks,
Sean
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From: Clark O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If ZC is the benefactor of zope, why can't they
develop a plan that is independent of day to day money
making?
If ZC is this little company that does not have the
resources to provide true leadership, then why does
Zope need them?
What would Linux be
Hello Clark,
I see your point here, and I understand your problem.
But I do not share your opinion, especially when it comes to its conclusion.
(branching)
Zope Corp. is not living in a dream world:
On the one hand ZC is this munificent benefactor of
Zope.
On the other hand ZC is this
Just as a last comment- and this is getting tiresome
even for me.
My favorite freeware project is JBoss www.jboss.org.
They built a really excellent J2EE server without any
corporate funding.
The JBoss developers manage the training and support
for JBoss themselves, and use the revenue it
From: Clark O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In my opinion all the revenue generated from Zope
should go to you guys to fund more great projects.
It already does. You see, Zope if free. It doesn't generate any revenue.
Maybe you missed that.
Anyone got a problem with that?
Not at all. In a way I
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 12:28:25AM +0100, Lennart Regebro wrote:
Does Linux need Linus? Yes.
Linus disagrees with you. From
http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=398
He is wrong.
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1. Convert the HTML screens to Zope DTML and connect the functionality to
Mailman.
Okay, I just wrote a proof of concept by simulating the admin intro screen
and it works just fine. The most amount of work will come from the HTML
page translations into DTML.
If you want to know how to setup
At 03:55 PM 12/2/2001 +, Chris Withers wrote:
Stephan Richter wrote:
1. Convert the HTML screens to Zope DTML and connect the functionality to
Mailman.
Okay, I just wrote a proof of concept by simulating the admin intro screen
and it works just fine. The most amount of work will
At 11:21 AM 12/2/2001 -0600, Stephan Richter wrote:
Mmmh, actually, if you (anyone) is willing to work on it, what the heck, I
give you FTP access (the restriction is that I have to know you from
previous discussions) to the Zope Tree/Products as well, so you can start
making some progress
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