[Zope-dev] Problems with session on ZEO

2004-08-04 Thread Gerhard Schmidt
Hi, we have some problems with our tempstorage on out ZEO client. We are running 6 zope Frontend server and one ZEO server. Serving Both main and temp storage. I runs well for some days. But than it stops working an reports the following error Traceback (innermost last): Module

[Zope-dev] ZConfig keys

2004-08-04 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hello, I would like to confirm that ZConfig keys are case insensitive and that the corresponding attributes on the config object returned by the 'loadConfig' call are always lower case. The only thing that seems relevant about keys and case sensitivity in the documentation does not state it

[Zope-dev] Possible Windows Service improvements.

2004-08-04 Thread Mark Hammond
Hi all, I am starting to venture into the wonderful world of Zope! With the benefit of a complete lack of Zope experience, I have been able to look at the Windows service support from a fairly clean slate. However, I also realize this lack of experience means my ideas may be naive - hence I

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with session on ZEO

2004-08-04 Thread Chris McDonough
On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 03:34, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: Hi, we have some problems with our tempstorage on out ZEO client. We are running 6 zope Frontend server and one ZEO server. Serving Both main and temp storage. I runs well for some days. But than it stops working an reports the

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with session on ZEO

2004-08-04 Thread Gerhard Schmidt
On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 08:37:28AM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: Wow! You appear to be the first person to get this symptom who does not use Plone. This is a great data point. This error is being tracked at http://zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1401 . There is no solution currently, we need

Re: [Zope-dev] Possible Windows Service improvements.

2004-08-04 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 07:35, Mark Hammond wrote: Hi all, I am starting to venture into the wonderful world of Zope! With the benefit of a complete lack of Zope experience, I have been able to look at the Windows service support from a fairly clean slate. However, I also realize this lack

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with session on ZEO

2004-08-04 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 08:47, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 08:37:28AM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: Wow! You appear to be the first person to get this symptom who does not use Plone. This is a great data point. This error is being tracked at

Re: [Zope-dev] ZConfig keys

2004-08-04 Thread Fred Drake
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:24:30 +0200, Godefroid Chapelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to confirm that ZConfig keys are case insensitive and that the corresponding attributes on the config object returned by the 'loadConfig' call are always lower case. It sounds like I need to clarify

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with session on ZEO

2004-08-04 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Mittwoch, 4. August 2004 9:27 Uhr -0400 Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 08:47, Gerhard Schmidt wrote: On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 08:37:28AM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: Wow! You appear to be the first person to get this symptom who does not use Plone. This

Re: [Zope-dev] Possible Windows Service improvements.

2004-08-04 Thread Jim Fulton
Mark Hammond wrote: ... I propose: We insist the child process can be created and continues to run for x seconds (where x~5). I recommend against this strategy. It's too implicit and has bitten us on Unix in the past. The problem with the strategy if the program starts very fast and then dies,

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with session on ZEO

2004-08-04 Thread Simon Eisenmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: ~ The whole problem might be related to some version of | PlacelessTranslationService. | Christian Heimes' hint was to upgrade to the latest PTS version from the | CVS which | seems to solve the problem although the traceback

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with session on ZEO

2004-08-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Gerhard Schmidt wrote at 2004-8-3 09:34 +0200: ... Module Products.Sessions.SessionDataManager, line 94, in getSessionData Module Products.Sessions.SessionDataManager, line 183, in _getSessionDataObject SystemError: error return without exception set I had an issue in the same line: it

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with session on ZEO

2004-08-04 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 17:42, Dieter Maurer wrote: Gerhard Schmidt wrote at 2004-8-3 09:34 +0200: ... Module Products.Sessions.SessionDataManager, line 94, in getSessionData Module Products.Sessions.SessionDataManager, line 183, in _getSessionDataObject SystemError: error return without

RE: [Zope-dev] Possible Windows Service improvements.

2004-08-04 Thread Mark Hammond
[Me] I propose: We insist the child process can be created and continues to run for x seconds (where x~5). [Jim] I recommend against this strategy. It's too implicit and has bitten us on Unix in the past. The problem with the strategy if the program starts very fast and then dies, we

RE: [Zope-dev] Possible Windows Service improvements.

2004-08-04 Thread Mark Hammond
I propose: Each time the child process terminates with a non-zero return code, the tail x-bytes of the child output be written to the Windows event log, where x~2k. This is a good idea. FWIW, I believe the Zope HEAD already has some work done towards this (in

RE: [Zope-dev] Possible Windows Service improvements.

2004-08-04 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 19:56, Mark Hammond wrote: On Windows however, runzope is executed as a *child* of the service. If the child fatally fails, the service itself is still reporting success, and hopelessly attempting a restart. The service needs to know if the child fatally failed. This

RE: [Zope-dev] Possible Windows Service improvements.

2004-08-04 Thread Chris McDonough
On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 20:24, Mark Hammond wrote: This is a good idea. FWIW, I believe the Zope HEAD already has some work done towards this (in lib/python/nt_svcutils/service.py), although the child output goes to a logfile instead of the event log. It would be nice to make the output

RE: [Zope-dev] Possible Windows Service improvements.

2004-08-04 Thread Mark Hammond
FWIW, the equivalent of the service manager code under UNIX is zopectl rather than runzope. Ahh, ok. That makes more sense now, thanks. When you say these errors above, do you mean any unhandled exception? If so (and any nonzero exit code indicated a startup failure), would we really