Re: [Zope-dev] Re: UI improvements

2005-11-21 Thread Chris Withers
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: IMHO if this is just UI changes that improve usability it should be OK to flout the rules a bit. The rules are there to ensure code quality and stability in a release branch - I doubt small UI changes endanger those. Beware the slippery slope to hell, paved with

[Zope-dev] PermissionGeddon

2005-11-21 Thread Florent Guillaume
I've done a big checkin to switch practically everything to the new- style (actually they're 5 years old) security declarations. I'd appreciate if another set of eyes could double-check everything; while I've taken a number of steps to ensure I didn't make mistakes you never know...

Re: [Zope-dev] How bad _are_ ConflictErrors

2005-11-21 Thread Dennis Allison
Conflicts and how they interact with the database and sessioning machinery is my hot button right at the moment )-: I Hope I have not included too much information. I ran a quick report and we see about 1000 conflicts per hour at about 12 hits per hour. These are order of magnitude

Re: [Zope-dev] How bad _are_ ConflictErrors

2005-11-21 Thread Tim Peters
[Dennis Allison] ... Conflict errors are not always errors. At the ZODB level, an unresolved conflict always raises an exception. Whether such an exception is considered to be an error isn't ZODB's decision -- that's up to the app. My understanding (which may be wrong) is that Zope tries up

Re: [Zope-dev] How bad _are_ ConflictErrors

2005-11-21 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Dennis Allison wrote: Conflicts and how they interact with the database and sessioning machinery is my hot button right at the moment )-: I Hope I have not included too much information. I ran a quick report and we see about 1000 conflicts per hour at about

Re: [Zope-dev] How bad _are_ ConflictErrors

2005-11-21 Thread Chris McDonough
These are order of magnitude numbers and are highly variable. The 1% number is way bigger than I am comfortable with although I have no basis to scale my expectations. I'd be much happier were it a couple of orders of magnitude smaller. I would be too. It's considerably difficult when

Re: [Zope-dev] How bad _are_ ConflictErrors

2005-11-21 Thread Dennis Allison
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Chris McDonough wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Dennis Allison wrote: Conflicts and how they interact with the database and sessioning machinery is my hot button right at the moment )-: I Hope I have not included too much information. I ran a quick

[Zope-dev] Re: How bad _are_ ConflictErrors

2005-11-21 Thread Florent Guillaume
Dennis Allison wrote: *** you are correct -- this is the easy hack on the event.log. It's much harder to know how many make it out to the user. We have an associated bug in the MySQL interface which generates threading errors, apparently triggered by a conflict error and the subsequent

[Zope-dev] Re: Hard-coded Content-type:text/xml as xmlrpc in Zope (2.8.1)

2005-11-21 Thread Florent Guillaume
[redirected to zope-dev] John Ziniti wrote: Back in June 2004, I had the following problem: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2004-June/151436.html http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2004-June/151492.html http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2004-June/151497.html

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: How bad _are_ ConflictErrors

2005-11-21 Thread Victor Safronovich
Hello, Florent. you wrote 22 íîÿáðÿ 2005 ã., 2:13:16: BTW does someone have a handy script to provoke conflict errors on a naked Zope? Using http://www.zope.org/Members/kvas/ZAK ( it need some patch for zope 2.8) ( you need to read some manual about ZAK ) in 1 browser window try the