Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-17 Thread Martin Aspeli
Dieter Maurer wrote: > Christian Theune wrote at 2009-1-16 09:06 +0100: >> I noticed 'zope.globalrequest' on the PyPI RSS feed today and wonder >> about it. IMHO this implements an anti-pattern in an official way >> without a warning that this needs to be handled with care. > > IMHO, it is not an

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 8 OK

2009-01-17 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Fri Jan 16 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Sat Jan 17 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.7 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Fri Jan 16 20:53:04 EST 2009 URL: http://m

[Zope-dev] Salt-weakness in zope.app.authentication passwordmanagers?

2009-01-17 Thread Uli Fouquet
Hi there, while working on a password manager tool (commandline) for Grok I stumbled over the usage of salts in the password managers of `zope.app.authentication`. In short, they seem to generate (and store) a salt number but do not make any use of it when it comes to creating the hashes (SHA1, M

Re: [Zope-dev] Salt-weakness in zope.app.authentication passwordmanagers?

2009-01-17 Thread Dan Korostelev
Yeah, that's definetely a mistake! The hash needs to be generated using both salt and password. Also, I saw a technique when you generate a hash using double hashing, like this: sha(sha(password) + salt).hexdigest(). It looks even more secure :) BTW, to fix it, we need to remember about migration

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-17 Thread Robert Niederreiter
Hi, Am Samstag, den 17.01.2009, 11:36 + schrieb Martin Aspeli: > Dieter Maurer wrote: > > Christian Theune wrote at 2009-1-16 09:06 +0100: > >> I noticed 'zope.globalrequest' on the PyPI RSS feed today and wonder > >> about it. IMHO this implements an anti-pattern in an official way > >> witho

Re: [Zope-dev] Salt-weakness in zope.app.authentication passwordmanagers?

2009-01-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Dan Korostelev wrote: > Yeah, that's definetely a mistake! The hash needs to be generated > using both salt and password. > > Also, I saw a technique when you generate a hash using double hashing, > like this: sha(sha(password) + salt).hexdigest(). It looks even more > secure :) Why wo

Re: [Zope-dev] Salt-weakness in zope.app.authentication passwordmanagers?

2009-01-17 Thread Shane Hathaway
Uli Fouquet wrote: > while working on a password manager tool (commandline) for Grok I > stumbled over the usage of salts in the password managers of > `zope.app.authentication`. > > In short, they seem to generate (and store) a salt number but do not > make any use of it when it comes to creating

Re: [Zope-dev] Salt-weakness in zope.app.authentication passwordmanagers?

2009-01-17 Thread Uli Fouquet
Hi Dan, thanks for your quick response. Dan Korostelev wrote: > Yeah, that's definetely a mistake! The hash needs to be generated > using both salt and password. > > Also, I saw a technique when you generate a hash using double hashing, > like this: sha(sha(password) + salt).hexdigest(). It look

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 7 OK, 1 Unknown

2009-01-17 Thread Stefan H . Holek
> > That test seems to be timing out both yesterday and today trying to > download docutils: do you think having the buildout use a > download_cache would help? > > > Tres. It certainly would. I am however reluctant to enable the download cache because it may mask incomplete buildout configurat

Re: [Zope-dev] Salt-weakness in zope.app.authentication passwordmanagers?

2009-01-17 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Uli Fouquet wrote: > Hi Dan, > > thanks for your quick response. > > Dan Korostelev wrote: > > Yeah, that's definetely a mistake! The hash needs to be generated > > using both salt and password. > > > > Also, I saw a technique when you generate a hash using double hashing, > > like th

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 7 OK, 1 Unknown

2009-01-17 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan H.Holek wrote: >> That test seems to be timing out both yesterday and today trying to >> download docutils: do you think having the buildout use a >> download_cache would help? >> >> >> Tres. > > It certainly would. I am however reluctant to e

Re: [Zope-dev] SVN: Products.GenericSetup/trunk/Products/GenericSetup/tests/common.py Hhm, pdb?!?

2009-01-17 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hanno Schlichting wrote: > Log message for revision 94810: > Hhm, pdb?!? > > Changed: > U Products.GenericSetup/trunk/Products/GenericSetup/tests/common.py > > -=- > Modified: Products.GenericSetup/trunk/Products/GenericSetup/tests/common.py >

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.globalrequest?

2009-01-17 Thread Dieter Maurer
Martin Aspeli wrote at 2009-1-17 11:36 +: >Dieter Maurer wrote: >> Christian Theune wrote at 2009-1-16 09:06 +0100: >>> I noticed 'zope.globalrequest' on the PyPI RSS feed today and wonder >>> about it. IMHO this implements an anti-pattern in an official way >>> without a warning that this need