Re: [Zope-dev] Translations for zope packages.

2009-02-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 09 February 2009, Adam GROSZER wrote: There are proprietary tools to enforce this. I think launchpad translation is somehow also a translation memory as it pulls in previous translations. Though no idea how the above could be solved with FOSS tools. KDE's KBabel has support for

Re: [Zope-dev] Translations for zope packages.

2009-02-10 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello, Yeah, after a quick check it's superseeded by Lokalize which in turn seems to have also Translation memory and Glossary, where glossary looks like the termbase support. http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdesdk/lokalize/glossary.html Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 9:01:49 AM, you wrote: SR

Re: [Zope-dev] Translations for zope packages.

2009-02-10 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/2/10 Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com: In short, a good translation is consistent. That means the same sentences are translated to the same foreign sentence. A so-called translation memory is used for that. Also terms (specific words or expressions of the domain) are translated to the

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Laurent Mignon
Hi, With the replacement of zope.app.component import with zope.site, it's no more possible to use z3c.form with Zope2 / Plone :-( In fact, zope.site require zope.container requiring ZODB3 :-( I can't find any solutions to solve this problem. It is really damage to lose the possibility of

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
Well, by now we definitely have enough people to have a fruitful discussion, so I feel happy to say that it definitely will happen. I created a PyCon wikipage if people want to add anything, with the suggested title State of Zope, I hope that title is OK.

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Martin Aspeli
Laurent Mignon wrote: Hi, With the replacement of zope.app.component import with zope.site, it's no more possible to use z3c.form with Zope2 / Plone :-( In fact, zope.site require zope.container requiring ZODB3 :-( Why can't you put these eggs into your Plone buildout? Are there version

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Laurent Mignon
Laurent Mignon wrote: Hi, With the replacement of zope.app.component import with zope.site, it's no more possible to use z3c.form with Zope2 / Plone :-( In fact, zope.site require zope.container requiring ZODB3 :-( I can't find any solutions to solve this problem. It is really damage

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Laurent Mignon
Martin Aspeli wrote: Laurent Mignon wrote: Hi, With the replacement of zope.app.component import with zope.site, it's no more possible to use z3c.form with Zope2 / Plone :-( In fact, zope.site require zope.container requiring ZODB3 :-( Why can't you put these eggs into your Plone

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/2/10 Laurent Mignon laurent.mig...@softwareag.com: The problem encountered is that zope.container specify ZODB3 as a main dependency. After checking the code, it seems that ZODB is only required for tests. If I modify zope.container.setup.py to specify ZODB3 as an extra dependency for

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Laurent Mignon
Dan Korostelev wrote: 2009/2/10 Laurent Mignon laurent.mig...@softwareag.com: The problem encountered is that zope.container specify ZODB3 as a main dependency. After checking the code, it seems that ZODB is only required for tests. If I modify zope.container.setup.py to specify ZODB3 as an

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Dan Korostelev
2009/2/10 Laurent Mignon laurent.mig...@softwareag.com: Dan Korostelev wrote: 2009/2/10 Laurent Mignon laurent.mig...@softwareag.com: The problem encountered is that zope.container specify ZODB3 as a main dependency. After checking the code, it seems that ZODB is only required for tests. If I

[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 7 OK, 1 Failed

2009-02-10 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Mon Feb 9 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Tue Feb 10 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Test failures - Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.5.4 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Mon Feb 9

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Laurent Mignon
Dan Korostelev wrote: 2009/2/10 Laurent Mignon laurent.mig...@softwareag.com: Dan Korostelev wrote: 2009/2/10 Laurent Mignon laurent.mig...@softwareag.com: The problem encountered is that zope.container specify ZODB3 as a main dependency. After checking the code, it seems that ZODB is only

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Baiju M
I am also coming to PyCon this year :) Is there any plan for Zope sprint ? /me was never been outside India. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 13:32, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: I am also coming to PyCon this year :) Excellent! Is there any plan for Zope sprint ? Nothing official yet, but I'm sure there will be sprinting done. There seems to be more Zope people this year than last. There was talk about

Re: [Zope-dev] Translations for zope packages.

2009-02-10 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, +1 for getting rid of zope.app.locales as a centralized point for translations. +1 also to have a way to *see* the translations as a single whole, with the possibility to define a message id that is used by many packages. I'm not sure I get all the details. One question is whether

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Baiju M
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 13:32, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: Is there any plan for Zope sprint ? Nothing official yet, but I'm sure there will be sprinting done. There seems to be more Zope people this year than

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 14:09, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 13:32, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: Is there any plan for Zope sprint ? Nothing official yet, but I'm sure there will be

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: So, I propose to have an Open Space session at PyCon, Chicago, March 27-29 . Count me in. (I'll also be sprinting the first 2 sprint days.) Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Laurent Mignon wrote: With the replacement of zope.app.component import with zope.site, it's no more possible to use z3c.form with Zope2 / Plone :-( Thanks for getting our attention on this. I consider this a show-stopper for 2.0. Dan, let's think about something

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Laurent Mignon wrote: BUT I wonder if the way that z3c.form compute resource url stay compatible with zope2 from zope.site import hooks class ImageButtonAction(image.ImageWidget, ButtonAction):      zope.component.adapts(interfaces.IFormLayer,

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Jim Fulton wrote: On Feb 9, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: So, I propose to have an Open Space session at PyCon, Chicago, March 27-29 . Count me in. (I'll also be sprinting the first 2 sprint days.) Wow, lot's of people going. That makes me wanna go

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Laurent Mignon
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Laurent Mignon wrote: With the replacement of zope.app.component import with zope.site, it's no more possible to use z3c.form with Zope2 / Plone :-( Thanks for getting our attention on this. I consider this a show-stopper for 2.0. Dan,

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Laurent Mignon
Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Laurent Mignon wrote: BUT I wonder if the way that z3c.form compute resource url stay compatible with zope2 from zope.site import hooks class ImageButtonAction(image.ImageWidget, ButtonAction):

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Daniel Nouri
Laurent Mignon laurent.mig...@softwareag.com writes: Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Laurent Mignon wrote: With the replacement of zope.app.component import with zope.site, it's no more possible to use z3c.form with Zope2 / Plone :-( Thanks for getting our attention on

Re: [Zope-dev] Translations for zope packages.

2009-02-10 Thread Paul Winkler
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:54:54PM +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote: In my mind, the Zope framework should offer facilities to support translating applications. These applications can be composed out of more than a single package, and we want to support the translation memory usecase for that.

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCML implementations: where should they go

2009-02-10 Thread Dieter Maurer
Hanno Schlichting wrote at 2009-2-8 14:14 +0100: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'ld rather not see a whole slew of extra packagse appear. I also wonder how the extra number of packages and increasing size of sys.path influence performance and restrictions on environments like GAE. For environments

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCML implementations: where should they go

2009-02-10 Thread Shane Hathaway
Hanno Schlichting wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'ld rather not see a whole slew of extra packagse appear. I also wonder how the extra number of packages and increasing size of sys.path influence performance and restrictions on environments like GAE. For environments like GAE you don't

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCML implementations: where should they go

2009-02-10 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jim Fulton wrote at 2009-2-8 13:00 -0500: ... IMO, introducing an extra is like introducing a new package and in a rather complicated way. I agree with the first part of your sentence -- but cannot follow you with the second part: How can 'extra' : sequence of required distributions be

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Laurent Mignon
Daniel Nouri wrote: Laurent Mignon laurent.mig...@softwareag.com writes: Stephan Richter wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Laurent Mignon wrote: With the replacement of zope.app.component import with zope.site, it's no more possible to use z3c.form with Zope2 / Plone :-( Thanks for

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCML implementations: where should they go

2009-02-10 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote: Jim Fulton wrote at 2009-2-8 13:00 -0500: ... IMO, introducing an extra is like introducing a new package and in a rather complicated way. I agree with the first part of your sentence -- but cannot follow you with the second part: How

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCML implementations: where should they go

2009-02-10 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, So the general idea would be to remove the complication extras introduce in reasoning about packages. Extras can be removed in two ways: * carefully restructure dependency relationships between packages so that extras are no longer needed (typically for test extras this can be done) *

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 15:46, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 14:09, Baiju M mba...@zeomega.net wrote: It looks like this time there are few formalities to arrange a sprint: http://us.pycon.org/2009/sprints/call-for-projects/ Ah, OK. I'll set up a Zope Sprint

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCML implementations: where should they go

2009-02-10 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jim Fulton wrote at 2009-2-10 14:01 -0500: On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote: Jim Fulton wrote at 2009-2-8 13:00 -0500: ... IMO, introducing an extra is like introducing a new package and in a rather complicated way. I agree with the first part of your sentence -- but cannot

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Chris McDonough
Cool. FTR, some Pylons folks and some Repoze folks (including me) and maybe folks from some other WSGI/MVC-framework folks are likely to sprint on some convergence tasks. I wonder if instead of having small island sprints we should consider having one big web frameworks sprint and split into

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.form 2.0

2009-02-10 Thread Wolfgang Schnerring
* Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com [2009-02-09 19:08]: Source support - Seems to work fine. I've checked that out in my sandbox instance with zc.sourcefactory's context-less and context-based sources. I'd very much like to put in a little bit of flexibility when looking up widgets for

Re: [Zope-dev] opensp...@pycon 2009 about Zope/Repoze/Grok/Deliverence etc.

2009-02-10 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:19, Chris McDonough chr...@plope.com wrote: Cool. FTR, some Pylons folks and some Repoze folks (including me) and maybe folks from some other WSGI/MVC-framework folks are likely to sprint on some convergence tasks. I wonder if instead of having small island